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No one wants that contract, and it’s a pipe dream for Portland to think they can roll him into the Dame trade.
They could do Lowry + Caleb Martin + Jaquez (once eligible in a couple weeks) + Jovic + filler, without Herro or Duncan Robinson. The problems are:
1) Fiding a taker for Herro that returns draft assets makes it more palatable for Portland and allows Miami to remove a couple assets they need (likely Caleb Martin and Jaquez).
2) Moving Duncan Robinson or Herro removes long term financial commitment for Miami that would give them a lot more flexibility.
I think they're both FOs are looking at each other to see who blinks first, if I'm Portland I demand all Miami assets (2 picks + 3 swaps) + Jaquez + at least one more pick from a 3rd team for Herro + expiring contracts (Lowry).
No one wants that contract, and it’s a pipe dream for Portland to think they can roll him into the Dame trade.
So now that the dust has settled (?) who has the finally tally of how the Spurs used their capspace this summer? I’ve lost track.
Interesting musings on the Fournier situation in NYC. He was asked about Wemby/Spurs. Fournier is a "consolidation trade" candidate -- Berch, Osman, Payne get you about there.
https://sports.yahoo.com/knicks-evan...TeMOfH-xAKG2hO
Issue with Don't Google is that he plays a position that is extremely crowded between Vassell, Johnson, Branham, Champagnie, McDermott, Cissoko and maybe others if they slide around. It's not like Lowry where you can at least hope the guy plays for you. Evan shouldn't a target for the Spurs without them getting incentive back at least.
yeah, I wouldn't mind taking Lowry and Nurk in thier trade for a couple pick swaps or something, I don't really like all these nobodies the Spurs have traded for.
I think the guys they are picking up aren’t really nobodies. They just are past their hype period. Instead of getting Austin Reeves at his peek salary after one good year with the lakers, we are getting him five years later after he didn’t meet the crazy expectations and got traded to Detroit and is now on a contract year to year after injurying himself a bit. But in the end he is 80-90% of the same player and might just have a great comeback year with the spurs. These are the guys that are grabbing, all on reasonable expiring contracts. They all shoot the three pointer above average. They all are vets with experience. And either they love the system and exceed expectations and maybe we sign ‘em to a long term or we turn them before the end of the year for assets or maybe do a trade consolidation for someone better. Tons of options with these types of players.
I haven’t followed Cleveland. I thought Allen had looked better this last year? Is he just an easier to move piece or do they not like his fit next to Mobley.
Second Apron is looming, and he's the obvs candidate.
its funny how the inclusion of one word - should - takes this from a potentially interesting rumor to a mega nothingburger.
The Timberwolves are SO screwed. They're a play in team with a $216M payroll. Fire sale incoming.
In someways paring Mobley with Allen is similar to the theory the spurs seem to have with Wemby. Aside from the $$ issues flagged by others, maybe CLE thought is was time for Mobley to spread his wings, again, something that will eventually happen with Wemby circa year 3.
Allen is a solid player, and unlike Jakob (who got similar $$) this guy will dunk the crap out of the ball and get those impact blocks that change the tone of a game. I like him, but i really didnt like how he got manhandled on the boards in the playoffs by the Knicks. That was supposed to be his calling card.
Yup, and i would happily take Conley from them for the year.
I wouldn't hate it, but he's not a contract they need to shed. He's an ending contract, and we can only offer them ending contracts, so it's a push for them unless their roster is short of players like Miami is/will be.
They need to literally dump KAT into someone's cap space for a SRP, or they're gonna have their 31 FRP frozen next summer.
Fournier washed or just mismanaged?
I realize no one watched the Spurs last year, but Zach Collins is more than good and he's a better fit than Allen.
I like Allen, but we don't need to be taking on external contracts of $20M+ ** at a time when we have a ton of FRPs on the roster and a ton more to be drafted in the next 6-7 years.
** exception is a superstar All NBA player.
I agree. Collins will look incredible next to Wemby and earn himself a nice contract. He also put up similar numbers to Allen once he got the starting gig.
i like collins quite a bit. offensively he's very talented. defensively... i mean he tries. he's willing to be physical. he's willing to contest shots. i just question his actual effectiveness on that end.
His season numbers were down in a lot of areas compared with last year, he was pretty bad against NY during the PO and outplayed by Mitch Robinson.
Rim protection isn't always 100% about blocking shots. One of the reasons they went after Zach was that in his second season, he was in the top 3-4 big men in opp/FG% at the rim. He's a lot like Splitter in that regard, an elite rim protector who doesn't block a ton of shots, but is always in position to contest.
As for Minnesota, they need to get rid of KAT. He's never been that guy and he's tissue paper in the playoffs. They'll owe him between $50-62 million through 27-28. Just a horrendous contract. If Atlanta or the Knicks really want him, send him along before things get really bad.
Seems they think Mobley can play center on defense so they are thinking about getting something for Allen while they still can.
I'm not so sure Mobley can play center on defense or is actually going to become the player people think he will...but cleveland gonna cleveland so we'll see.
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