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    1. What evidence
    Tons.
    I'll get a few out of the countless examples.

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    Famous scientists such as Galileo and Isaac Newton believed in a Creator. Their belief did not conflict with their love for science. Likewise, some scientists today find no conflict between science and belief in creation.

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    2. Then you can't dismiss flying spaghetti monster being your eternal God either

    Or Allah

    Or Zeus

    Or Galactus
    It will absolutely have to be determined in the future, i agree.
    For now we all make our freedom of choice.

    It takes far more "faith" to believe in evolution then creation.

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    It will absolutely have to be determined in the future, i agree.
    For now we all make our freedom of choice.

    It takes far more "faith" to believe in evolution then creation.
    Nah, there is plenty of observational evidence and simple logic that leads to natural selection. Not so much for some supernatural being that is cause of whatever you think it caused.

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    Tons.
    I'll get a few out of the countless examples.

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    Famous scientists such as Galileo and Isaac Newton believed in a Creator. Their belief did not conflict with their love for science. Likewise, some scientists today find no conflict between science and belief in creation.
    That is not evidence and that was during the time where they were trying to prove the existence of God using science. That lasted a few centuries until the 19th century where it became evident that science and theology were mutually exclusive.

    It led to a lot of despair for people of science. It was one of the main causes of the US transcendental movement to try and cope with the incongruity.

    People a lot more savvy than you have tried to prove the existence of God. The battles between Hume and Kant epitomize it. In the end Kant was wrong demonstrably.

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    That is not evidence and that was during the time where they were trying to prove the existence of God using science. That lasted a few centuries until the 19th century where it became evident that science and theology were mutually exclusive.
    Likewise, some scientists today find no conflict between science and belief in creation.

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    And there are people that think all other kinds of nonsense like the Earth is flat or that dinosaurs are tests of faith put in the Earth by the devil. Someone else believing as you might make you feel better but that is not a reason to accept something as true.

    There is no objective reason to believe in any organized religion. those monotheistic doctrines are all mutually exclusive. There is no logic or empirical evidence that proves a creator acted in any way shape of form.

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    "If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
    -Romans 10:9 NIV

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    Interesting, in the original 1611 KJV bible, the letter “J” does not appear in it!!!

    Why? "J" as a letter did not become common in English language until the 1700s; before then, "I" was used to represent the J sound.

    In the image of the 1611 KJV, you see the Epistle of James spelled as the Epistle of Iames; you also see the stylized capital "I" in Italy (top right paragraph) and in the in the 5th verse ("If any of you...") and "I" used to spell James and Jesus in the first verse.


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    Interesting, in the original 1611 KJV bible, the letter “J” does not appear in it!!!

    Why? "J" as a letter did not become common in English language until the 1700s; before then, "I" was used to represent the J sound.

    In the image of the 1611 KJV, you see the Epistle of James spelled as the Epistle of Iames; you also see the stylized capital "I" in Italy (top right paragraph) and in the in the 5th verse ("If any of you...") and "I" used to spell James and Jesus in the first verse.

    The biggest problem is that Jesus was killed before he could create his kabala. Everything we have is second hand sources that have been altered to taste over and over for two thousand years.

    The worst is what happened after the Romans codified things 500 years after the fact. They recorded what they wanted and then killed anyone who disagreed and burned all do ents that were not copies of the Romans including the source material. All you have left are the dead sea scrolls and a few other odds and ends post Constantine.

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    The biggest problem is that Jesus was killed before he could create his kabala. Everything we have is second hand sources that have been altered to taste over and over for two thousand years.

    The worst is what happened after the Romans codified things 500 years after the fact. They recorded what they wanted and then killed anyone who disagreed and burned all do ents that were not copies of the Romans including the source material. All you have left are the dead sea scrolls and a few other odds and ends post Constantine.
    Some of the early Christians believed then, that end of times was near, so why write everything down. 2000 years later, oooppps, no one will notice.

    “Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.” (Matthew 16:28, NIV)

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    lmao at democrats believing in god but thinking abortion and same sex couples are ok,,,,are you stupid? it goes against everything that silly book the bible says. There is no santa claus in the sky, there is no light at the end of the tunnel,,,,egyptians believed in how many gods?,,,,we just boiled it down to one,,,,but its just as insane to believe in one as it is to believe in hundreds,,,,but you waste your time and do what ya want,,,,,good luck with that "afterlife" thing,,,,

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    the next time anyone shows tangible proof of a god in the history of the world,,,,,will be the first time,,,,good luck with that.

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    "Behold, I make all things new."


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    lmao at democrats believing in god but thinking abortion and same sex couples are ok,,,,are you stupid? it goes against everything that silly book the bible says. There is no santa claus in the sky, there is no light at the end of the tunnel,,,,egyptians believed in how many gods?,,,,we just boiled it down to one,,,,but its just as insane to believe in one as it is to believe in hundreds,,,,but you waste your time and do what ya want,,,,,good luck with that "afterlife" thing,,,,
    Nothing against abortion in the Bible.

    Gays should be put to death tho. Bible God is so loving like that.

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    The biggest problem is that Jesus was killed before he could create his kabala. Everything we have is second hand sources that have been altered to taste over and over for two thousand years.

    The worst is what happened after the Romans codified things 500 years after the fact. They recorded what they wanted and then killed anyone who disagreed and burned all do ents that were not copies of the Romans including the source material. All you have left are the dead sea scrolls and a few other odds and ends post Constantine.
    Yah, Paul did a lot of the lifting in the NT

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    "Behold, I make all things new."


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    It takes far more "faith" to believe in evolution then creation.
    Rofl says every creation website ever created on the Internet.

    That's false. There's scientific evidence of evolution.

    And evolution and creation aren't the opposites of each other. Philosophically, you can both believe in creation and in evolution. Beginnings of the universe is a different subject.

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    gs has to be the dumbest poster on ST which is truly an accomplishment. This is the same guy that didnt know what an office suite was ing moron

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    "My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you."
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    "My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you."
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    Nothing against abortion in the Bible.

    Gays should be put to death tho. Bible God is so loving like that.
    Im sorry but the whole silly book is pro life,,,,,


    • Deuteronomy 30:19: “I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live.”
    • Psalm 139:13-16: “For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.”
    • Jeremiah 1:5: “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”

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    lol Blake

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    "The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit."
    -Psalms 34:18 NIV

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    "The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit."
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    da, just 9 strokes before midnight catchin' it solid.

    da

    With that, da, I'm goin' to couch!!!

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    da, just 9 strokes before midnight catchin' it solid.

    da

    With that, da, I'm goin' to couch!!!
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