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    Buyout likely means he has agreed to take less than his full salary. We will see how much it is. Good luck to him with his future team.
    Bucks seems like a great option for him

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    Seems like the spurs must have fallen for Cedi? Lol
    Why would you pick Bullock over Osman?

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    As i said in the other thread, i think cedi does more spurs-y things on offense as a good connector type who can put the ball on the floor.

    bullock is a 3&d player where the d really comes and goes. If the spurs wanted to keep one who fits this team better it was Osman. If they wanted to maximize the possibility of getting an asset at the deadline, bullock was arguably the better play. If he had a strong half of the season a contender could easily project his fit more so than osman

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    BTW, Spurs have do trades for 4 players this summer: Cedi Osman, Lamar Stevens, Reggie Bullock and Cam Payne. 3 of 4 have been cut before the start of training camp.

    These trades were obviously made for the draft compensation but it's still kinda weird.

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    BTW, Spurs have do trades for 4 players this summer: Cedi Osman, Lamar Stevens, Reggie Bullock and Cam Payne. 3 of 4 have been cut before the start of training camp.

    These trades were obviously made for the draft compensation but it's still kinda weird.
    I feel like they were hanging on to lubricate a Lillard or possible Harden trade. Once Portland moved Dame to Milwaukee they moved on. The trades were pretty clearly only for draft capital and to see if they could get anything more. Payne and Bullock are attractive to fill out contending rosters but no one has SRPs to cough up for them anymore.

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    Surprised these cuts are all coming before birch

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    BTW, Spurs have do trades for 4 players this summer: Cedi Osman, Lamar Stevens, Reggie Bullock and Cam Payne. 3 of 4 have been cut before the start of training camp.

    These trades were obviously made for the draft compensation but it's still kinda weird.
    Yeah by my count the team used approx ~24M of capspace to get:

    - Cedi
    - DAL FRP swap
    - CLE SRP
    - NOLA SRP via PHX
    - 6M in cash for Cam
    - whatever cash Bullock gives back in buyout

    It’s not terrible in a world where you have to reach the floor, but leaves you wanting more at the same time.

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    Yeah by my count the team used approx ~24M of capspace to get:

    - Cedi
    - DAL FRP swap
    - CLE SRP
    - NOLA SRP via PHX
    - 6M in cash for Cam
    - whatever cash Bullock gives back in buyout

    It’s not terrible in a world where you have to reach the floor, but leaves you wanting more at the same time.
    Spurs traded away 3 second round picks in the Bullock trade.

    If you remove the financial part, Spurs three trades in July can sum up as a second round pick for Cedi Osman and a 2030 unprotected first round pick swap with Mavs.

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    Bucks seems like a great option for him
    Theoretically, but in reality their open spot is more than likely going to Payne/backup PG TBD.

    To fill their need for perimeter defense, they need Beauchamp or Jackson Jr. to become a credible enough shooter to become playable.

    Celtics have both the roster space and the rotational opening.

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    Spurs traded away 3 second round picks in the Bullock trade.

    If you remove the financial part, Spurs three trades in July can sum up as a second round pick for Cedi Osman and a 2030 unprotected first round pick swap with Mavs.
    That’s actually a really good trade, even without the $$$, which we did end up with I’m also guessing we get something for Cedi at the deadline. Also, who else gets a player to agree to a buyout in September?

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    Never Mind the Bullock

    Looks like the chances of facilitating bigger trades disappeared. I'd expect the long weird retential of Birch to be extinguished and we have our team.
    I’m surprised they couldn’t pull at least a future 2nd for Bullock.

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    So...one more cut and its probably Birch right ? Personally I would have cut Birch before Bullock even if he gave $$$ back.

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    That’s actually a really good trade, even without the $$$, which we did end up with I’m also guessing we get something for Cedi at the deadline. Also, who else gets a player to agree to a buyout in September?
    It was mentioned somewhere that if he was cut before training camp, due to the new CBA, he can sign with any team without restriction. I suppose this is a big cause for the timing.

    The Dallas pick swap may be super tasty. Someone posted that list of best draft assets in the league and it ranks very high.

    The Spurs had to make salary, they got what they could. As many have said, the market is completely different than it was a year ago. Nothing's there anymore pick-wise. They also picked up Payne, Bullock, etc., hoping to be available for Harden/Lillard trades but those just didn't materialize.

    So... I just don't think there was much to squeeze out of the league right now. Detroit only got two SRPs for taking on a $20 million salary (Joe Harris). I'm not being a homer or anything - I legit don't think there was much there, they kept their powder dry, and nothing new materialized. Let's get rid of Birch and convert Dom.

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    Spurs traded away 3 second round picks in the Bullock trade.

    If you remove the financial part, Spurs three trades in July can sum up as a second round pick for Cedi Osman and a 2030 unprotected first round pick swap with Mavs.
    True, but the SRP aren’t created equal. I believe the SRPs the spurs sent to Miami and Suns for example where “fake” picks, e.g., 55 protected. Meanwhile the CLE SRP is distant and from one of the dumpiest franchises in the league, and the Suns SRP is past the the current Suns window. Those are real gets.

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    So we drop kick birch off the team and call it an offseason then?

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    I believe he was in SA working out with the team recently. Maybe he was so awful in pickup games .

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    Why would you pick Bullock over Osman?
    Bullock has a reputation of being a good dude in the locker room plus 3 point shooting. But if it was up to me both Bullock and Cedi would be cut lol
    Last edited by Degoat; 09-30-2023 at 07:27 PM.

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    And people think this team isn't about to tank again

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    And people think this team isn't about to tank again
    we cut Reggie Bullock. It's all over

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    So...one more cut and it’s probably Birch right ? Personally I would have cut Birch before Bullock even if he gave $$$ back.
    The team may be waiting on insurance resolution for Birch. Also, isn’t Thibs a Bullock fan? I don’t think he was happy that the Knicks let him go.

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    And people think this team isn't about to tank again
    Idk about “tanking” but we now have 20+ million in dead money. I wonder what the percentage is for teams making the playoffs with that much dead money. Gotta be less than 20%.

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    True, but the SRP aren’t created equal. I believe the SRPs the spurs sent to Miami and Suns for example where “fake” picks, e.g., 55 protected. Meanwhile the CLE SRP is distant and from one of the dumpiest franchises in the league, and the Suns SRP is past the the current Suns window. Those are real gets.
    There were some "fake" picks traded both way with Spurs this summer but these 3 picks are real picks.

    They are:
    - best of 2024 Bulls and 2024 Hornets SRP.
    - 2025 Raptors SRP
    - 2028 Heat SRP

    Spurs gave these 3 "good" second round picks and absorbed Bullock $10.5M contract to get the 2030 Mavs swap. The 2030 Mavs swap is at a whole different level than a second round pick, even an early one. It's logical that Spurs had to give these picks and it's still a great gamble trade made by Wright.
    Last edited by Bruno; 10-01-2023 at 06:54 AM.

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    2030 swap with Dallas could be massive. Have to make sure Dallas dissapoint around end of Luka's current deal.

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    we cut Reggie Bullock. It's all over
    Technically, he was bought out.

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    IMO:

    For sure - I think a lot will feel like you. I wont say its something to rave about per se but I look it a few ways:

    1)We have SO many 2nds. Think of it this way: Would you trade Josh Richardson for Bullock + unprotected 1st swap? Absolutely right? That’s what Sa just did

    2) It’s like buying lotto tickets. If you have plenty of money and you buy a few tickets with pocket money for fun? Then its fun and all upside and no downside. If you are buying lotto tickets trying to pay your rent you are in big trouble….

    3) Bullock is not just some throw away player like Cedi. He’s shoots well can play a little Defense and should be able to recoup some of what Sa gave up too which makes it even better IF SA does trade him
    Bullock, at least shooting wise, has been much better than Cedi last 3 years.
    KD? Bullock is not great by any stretch but he’s fine for his role and expiring etc..
    It’s NOT useless salary. We’ll probably be able to flip Bullock at the deadline to get at least two of thos SRPs back.

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