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    What talent outside of Vassel?
    Even Vassel is overrated relative to the contract he just got. He doesn't really do anything besides shoot or score. Doesn't create for others and his defense has been underwhelming relative to all the hype he had coming out of college. Spurs flubbed that pick passing on Haliburton, who's better than Vassell in every facet of the game. Regardless, just his shooting alone puts him on a higher tier as a prospect compared to scrubs like Sochan or Keldon.

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    I'm not sure if it's just a complete lack of talent outside a couple players, or if it's more coaching. Can't tell.

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    We're gonna make a lot of team's offenses look elite this year arent we lol

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    Yeah Sochan was solid tonight.
    the only spur that actually competed physically tonight. shocking.

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    Record before Vassell injury: 3-2
    Record after Vassell injury: 0-3

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    I'm getting kind of tired of hearing " we need to wait and see what we have"

    We know exactly what we have and it ain't good. This team has somehow gotten worse from last year.

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    Like holy Wemby, McDermott has an open three -- one of the very best shots the Spurs offense can make. Why are you running to him calling for the ball? Just get in position to get the rebound. The Spurs have had a number good opportunities since the mid-point of the quarter. A number of them have been complicated by Wemby trying to get himself open rather than just playing the play.
    It might be a little bit of selfishness and pressing for the ball because of the added pressure of being in MSG.

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    that. The other pieces can prove themselves and know their place at the same time. It shouldn't be up to the generational prospect to pick his spots. He's not the complimentary piece, they are. If the product is going to be non-compe ive anyways you might as well prioritize the development of Wemby. If the rest of the guys don't get behind that then they can kick rocks.
    I tend to agree with this.

    The time to give Sochan time to become a point guard was last year and this one if they had drafted Miller or Ausur.

    But Wemby is the future and he needs development and good point guard play is what any developing big needs. Clowning at the point guard is a blueprint for setting bigs back.

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    that. The other pieces can prove themselves and know their place at the same time. It shouldn't be up to the generational prospect to pick his spots. He's not the complimentary piece, they are. If the product is going to be non-compe ive anyways you might as well prioritize the development of Wemby. If the rest of the guys don't get behind that then they can kick rocks.
    Again, that's toxic. Wemby being a star prospect means little to any of the players on the team. They aren't part-owners of the team. Just as the prospect of drafting Wemby shouldn't've motivated them to tank last year, the prospect of developing him isn't really their concern. They need to work on themselves and try to get their shots. If Pop wanted to run a system where they kept giving Wemby the ball, he would be calling plays to that end rather than just letting them "figure it out". The Spurs got rid of their vets and instead purposefully got a bunch of young or raw guys. This is the result that will have, especially given how weak Pop's coaching hand is right now.

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    We're gonna make a lot of team's offenses look elite this year arent we lol
    Kind of like last season. SMDH LOL

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    Lebron is a perimeter player who was a phenom because of his floor game for his size. That game was better than Wemby has, so he didn't need to be set up. Wemby isn't the first-overall pick anymore. He's a player in the league with a certain set of skills and trade-offs. The Spurs need to feed him, and he needs to put himself in position to get fed. He isn't at the point where he needs to be the focus of the team. You can't just give him the ball and get out of his way. You have to set him up, which means all five guys (including Wemby) have to play full actions. Wemby calls for passes constantly when he's not even close to the best option. Guys will be getting to the rim, and instead of screen for them, he'll slip and call for a pass. Guys will get getting ready to take wide open threes, and Wemby will be calling for a pass rather than getting in position for a potential offensive rebound. It happens all the time.
    Brutal, but so true.

    When do we press the panic button with Wemby? I've been drinking, but he's looked outright bad. Mostly because his shot selection and hustle off the ball has quickly become lazy or as I would rather believe, tired. I'm already beginning to believe his conditioning is way below NBA level.

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    Got to see Wesley doing what he does, getting to the rim and blowing the layup. Dependable.

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    Spurs won two quarters, but got blown out in the two they lost

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    I'm not sure if it's just a complete lack of talent outside a couple players, or if it's more coaching. Can't tell.
    Defense shouldn't be this bad. Wemby, Vassell and Sochan were all A+ defensive prospects. Even if they weren't, a young team such as this should be better than they are on hustle and fresh legs alone. Coaching should definitely do better there.

    And then, there's the obvious fact that they don't know how to utilize Wemby on the offensive end yet.

    So, yeah, Pop should roll up his sleeves and start doing some better coaching.

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    Tough one but the boys will bounce back

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    Brutal, but so true.

    When do we press the panic button with Wemby? I've been drinking, but he's looked outright bad. Mostly because his shot selection and hustle off the ball has quickly become lazy or as I would rather believe, tired. I'm already beginning to believe his conditioning is way below NBA level.
    Lmao you clowns are unreal

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    Glad to see Sochan play better tonight. Hopefully they get back on the winning track back home on Friday with Vassell getting more work.

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    I mean out of the gate, it was clank clank clank clank clank clank clank.

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    Lmao you clowns are unreal
    Eh? Can you be more specific? I'm not hating. He just looks ... tired, or phased out. I think it's a lot mentally, the pressure, learning Pop's systems, learning how to play with a bunch of new teammates - most of which are almost as young ...

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    What talent outside of Vassel?
    Well Wemby. Jones has talent. But also Sochan has talent. He's only a year older than Wemby. Collins does some nice things. Some of the young guys on this team will never be stars, but they can be quality role players. The Spurs don't have their second best talent on the team yet. That will come either in the next draft or free agency or through a trade. The Spurs have pieces to build a team quickly, but it's about being patient for the right opportunities.

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    All of the terrible things that come with being the youngest team in the league with none of the benefits tbh

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    This young team needs a Terry mings, Elie, Kersey, AJ type.

    So much to learn.

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    Got to see Wesley doing what he does, getting to the rim and blowing the layup. Dependable.
    Is that kid ever gonna learn to finish at the rim?

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    Sochan was the Spurs best player tonight (from what I saw, at least).
    Thought he did another poor job as starting point guard, helped get the team in a hole to start the game and start of the 2nd half.. He can’t shoot teams don’t respect him, he couldn’t take advantage of mismatches when the game mattered. Rotated on defense 2 steps too slow per par and got his lunch eaten by Brunson.

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    Brutal, but so true.

    When do we press the panic button with Wemby? I've been drinking, but he's looked outright bad. Mostly because his shot selection and hustle off the ball has quickly become lazy or as I would rather believe, tired. I'm already beginning to believe his conditioning is way below NBA level.
    You should probably sober up. He's fine. It's just that Pop needs to start doing his job and coaching the team. If Wemby is offering some resistance behind the scenes, he needs to work with Victor to get that straightened out. If other guys on the team are freezing Wemby out, Pop needs to handle it. If this is what the players do organically, Pop needs to GMO the out of them.

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