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Show me or let me listen to the order. Let me see a transcript from a cabinet meeting. Let's see the systemic intent.
All I see is bull .
"in whole or in part"
Israel's actions and words already comport with ethnic cleansing and genocide. With total US support so far.
Show me or let me listen to the order. Let me see a transcript from a cabinet meeting. Let's see the systemic intent.
All I see is bull .
And Israel will be less safe. Not because of the Hamas massacre, but because of Israel's barbaric reaction to it.
All I see is the indiscriminate killing and wanton immiseration of civilians. I don't think we need the minutes of cabinet meetings to figure out what's going on at ground level. Death, suffering, starvation and disease will tell that tale.
Okay, if you say so. I would have to know more specifics about Palestinian people in particular to make such a claim and have a picture of the aftermath.
it's bad enough already, tbh
Steady stream of outrage porn I get it. Worse is going on in central africa. No one gives a .
Sure, I've been meaning to post about that too. There are lots of things that matter that spoiled Americans don't give a about, but that doesn't mean they don't matter.
Nor does that mean that Gaza doesn't matter because the scale of wholesale slaughter is smaller.
I'm sure it's all worth it for our cheap rechargeable batteries, that's just the way life is, right?
When people are being slaughtered for political or economic expediency it isn't just outrage porn (for those who enjoy it) it's a crime against real people.
Well the South Sudanese are being rounded up and killed en masse for months in a process that I think can easily be described as genocide. Can you understand how I might find your approach disproportional and led?
Nope.
UN and Geneva definitions don't require that.
What standard are you using? Are all genocides required to be the same in method and scale? Surely, if it were desired to devise rules against genocide, it would be most inefficient to stipulate particular methods or quan ative thresholds of killing.
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I am saying that there is evidence of systemic intent when the warlord orders villages butchered, systemic rape, and enslavement. Child soldier fun. The scenes from there are outrageous too.
Your problem is that Israel has a justification for war and there exists a concept known as collateral damage. The scenes remain outrageous either way.
Ah, collateral damage. Justified purely by a just cause of war.
So then, given a just cause, is there any level of destruction and killing -- in your opinion -- that isn't justified?
Sure but that argument puts the burden of proof on you. And again if you want to make a tremendous claim then you need to provide tremendous proof.
All the war targets are presumptively justified, without independent verification? That seems a big bias for one side, to me.
There is a paper and recording trail. It will be nice when Netanyahu is gone so the Democrats can forgive Israel for him being such an underhanded to Obama.
Wut? Obama?
It doesn't seem that Biden is punishing Israel for that.
Israel itself will punish Netanyahu for being a crook and failing to protect the country from Hamas
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lol assuming the veracity of evidence not disclosed.
Such is life but that doesn't mean it's okay to make up because you are outraged.
Good thing I don't look at the democratic party and its cons uents to just be Biden.Wut? Obama?
It doesn't seem that Biden is punishing Israel for that.
Israel itself will punish Netanyahu for being a crook and failing to protect the country from Hamas
Independent verification?,,,,lmao,,,,,Its war, dawg,,,,theres no civility in war,,,you know that. You seem to be upset just because your side is the underdog and getting smacked around,,,,,Israel owes you jack .
Events on the ground will put the lie to sterile legalisms and cabinet minutes, though, to be honest, those minutes could turn out to be damning if they're ever disclosed. There's no guarantee that they will be, tbh. Especially if they're derogatory to Israel.
So who's punishing Israel for being mean to Obama? This wasn't even on my radar, I'm not a fan of Obama.
You are aware of what Netanyahu did to Obama when he invited him and the Palestinians to a Peace conference embarrassing the out of him right?
In your on head and never in any meaningful ins ution. full of sound and fury signifying nothing.
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