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    So your claim is that every single border crossing by an undo ented migrant is an increase in the population of the United States by one.

    ulative.

    lol
    According to Mayorkas, 85% stay.

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    You're better than this.

    "We could get somewhere if the other side would just agree with me" is not some form of high-minded analysis.
    I actually remember when politics weren't so polarized and real compromises were made.

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    According to Mayorkas, 85% stay.
    What percent do you think is acceptable?

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    ok cool, so thanks for confirming immigration should not factor in at all for you when it comes to voting for POTUS
    By definition US border security is a federal issue. Currently the federal government is abdicating that responsibility.

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    What percent do you think is acceptable?
    I think one million duly vetted and legally admitted as per current law is reasonable.

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    I actually remember when politics weren't so polarized and real compromises were made.
    "Your side does what I want" is not compromise.

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    By definition US border security is a federal issue. Currently the federal government is abdicating that responsibility.
    yeah but you cant get 60 senators to agree so it shouldnt factor into your POTUS vote

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    I think one million duly vetted and legally admitted as per current law is reasonable.
    So, you didn’t like trump about this to begin with.

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    Certainly you know better than this. Regardless of whether a law could ever actually be passed on the federal level, the electorate doesn't think that way. Abortion is an issue on the ballot, because 1) voters think it is and 2) the candidates will play into that.
    You are correct that most politicians are habitual liars and will promise to make their side "win" even when they know it will never happen and the mass ignorants will fall for it every time.

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    You are correct that most politicians are habitual liars and will promise to make their side "win" even when they know it will never happen and the mass ignorants will fall for it every time.
    Like how you're falling for immigration being an issue when your side is perfectly content to let rich people hire illegals?

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    I dont think anyone is against legal immigration. I also think it's reasonable to disagree with illegal immigration.

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    What percent do you think is acceptable?
    Zero.

    I believe in a reverse China policy to make up the labor shortage, not importing un-American foreigners.

    China had the one-child policy. To promote and enforce a red-blooded American baby boom, I hereby propose the Four-Child Policy:

    All US Citizen-US Citizen heterosexual married couples who are able to have children must have 4 babies in order to get the married filing jointly tax status and child tax credit. Also, gay and senior married partners, as well as marriages in which both partners are not US Citizens, must file taxes separately/single. Joint tax returns are only for US Citizens ONLY with at least 4 living offspring (Regardless of age; grown up is fine as they are grandfathered in)

    I dont think anyone is against legal immigration. I also think it's reasonable to disagree with illegal immigration.
    I'm against all immigration. America is full. We don't need more foreigners and more demographic shakeups especially considering the problems we already have.

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    Apparently your "side" does too. Personally I religiously use Everify on hires.

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    Like how you're falling for immigration being an issue when your side is perfectly content to let rich people hire illegals?
    Hey head, this is very hard for him. He’s trying to explain his trump support.

    Then you rush in with facts and gorilla dust. He ignored all of this , until now.

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    Hey head, this is very hard for him. He’s trying to explain his trump support.

    Then you rush in with facts and gorilla dust. He ignored all of this , until now.
    you. Both "sides" seem to agree with it.

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    you. Both "sides" seem to agree with it.
    Except you were late.

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    I dont think anyone is against legal immigration. I also think it's reasonable to disagree with illegal immigration.
    Being against illegal immigration isn't racist but the GOP's plan of trying to make their lives to court their white nationalist base while also being happy to let business owners exploit their labor to court their rich business owners base is.

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    According to Mayorkas, 85% stay.
    Quote please.

    The 85% Fox News talking point o' the day I find is the release rate after apprehension by the Border Patrol, which doesn't mean they are staying in the US permanently at all.
    Last edited by ChumpDumper; 01-17-2024 at 08:00 PM.

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    The way they treat them. Old white needs to die. I’m old white.

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    none. The "5000 illegals a day COMPROMISE" is total bull . That's still over 1.8 million a year.
    So who are you voting for?

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    Apparently your "side" does too. Personally I religiously use Everify on hires.
    Who are you voting for tho?

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    Zero.

    I believe in a reverse China policy to make up the labor shortage, not importing un-American foreigners.

    China had the one-child policy. To promote and enforce a red-blooded American baby boom, I hereby propose the Four-Child Policy:

    All US Citizen-US Citizen heterosexual married couples who are able to have children must have 4 babies in order to get the married filing jointly tax status and child tax credit. Also, gay and senior married partners, as well as marriages in which both partners are not US Citizens, must file taxes separately/single. Joint tax returns are only for US Citizens ONLY with at least 4 living offspring (Regardless of age; grown up is fine as they are grandfathered in)



    I'm against all immigration. America is full. We don't need more foreigners and more demographic shakeups especially considering the problems we already have.
    Only an ignorant white man would think immigrants bring only problems instead of solutions. I get it that you try to be edgy but you come across as a ing idiot.

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    Only an ignorant white man would think immigrants bring only problems instead of solutions. I get it that you try to be edgy but you come across as a ing idiot.
    It’s called socially awkward white male.

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    Being against illegal immigration isn't racist but the GOP's plan of trying to make their lives to court their white nationalist base while also being happy to let business owners exploit their labor to court their rich business owners base is.
    I agree.

    I'm against all immigration, but I'm also against letting foreigners get raped, trafficked, sold, drugged to death, or forced into labor or being used to pick crops like what people like good ol' Nancy and Jerry Nadler still talk about to this month.

    I believe we must Build The Wall and keep 100% of immigrants out, regardless of race, skin color, religion, nationality, age, gender, criminal background, education, caste, or work skillset (or lack thereof).

    Only an ignorant white man would think immigrants bring only problems instead of solutions. I get it that you try to be edgy but you come across as a ing idiot.
    I'm not being edgy, I'm being realistic. Spend a week in Shanghai or Tokyo or Chennai, how much % of the population isn't ethnically geocentered to their home country? How many expats are there? Not business travelers or tourists, but people who actually live there full-time.

    geneous societies are the highest-functioning and most-organized societies, and that's a FACT.

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    I actually remember when politics weren't so polarized and real compromises were made.
    Then some New York wise ass walked in offin' the street after casing the joint with his 2 wise ass sons and made President before they could get the gate closed.

    In other words? Just like our Effy created thus..."They ed around & found out."

    tee, hee.

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