No, to that. Their salaries could be useful in trades. Exact salary matching is rare, usually some filler is needed. The idea of just trading those contracts for picks is not wise.
Also, Osman could continue as a useful bench player (if his contract isn’t used as filler in a larger trade.) His current contract of $6.7M is not overpriced for a respectable, veteran bench player. Whatever the Spurs may come up with for starting players, they’ll still need a bench. If I ruled the world, and presuming that Osman continues to play well enough, I’d offer him a 2-year at $7M per year, no more than that, with the understanding that he’d be expected to contribute off the bench.
expiring contracts for salary matching purposes are only inherently useful if the team sending that out (here, the spurs) are willing to take on longer term, unwanted salary. do the spurs want to commit to doing that for the 2024 offseason already? if not, then those guys only have value if a team actually wants the player for basketball purposes for ROS
Raptors just waived Christian Koloko a 7,1 Center - I liked him during draft but have not followed him since he got picked two years ago.
I thought I remember hearing decent things about him last year, but he hasn't played at all this year for the Raptors or in the G-League.
Would be funny if we signed him though, then we'll end up with the player we got with the TOR pick (Branham) and the player that was used with our pick (Koloko). Too bad they both suck, apparently.
Agree. Don't we have a ton of 2nd round picks already ? Sure, throw a few 2nd's with a a player to make a deal easier. but we still have plenty. Most second rounders usually don't make the team anyway. They're usually stuck in the Gleague for a while and very few make it up to the big team.
Osman has be a rather pleasant surprise. We need vets like him that know their role be it a starter or bench player. Maybe one of McNuggets or Osman gets traded but the spurs usually stand pat during the trade deadline instead waiting for someone at the end of the roster to be released or bought out. I'm not holding my breath, but I am hoping for something to improve this team.
Second rounders have become something of an added currency in the NBA, although an odd one, since as you say they have limited value. Certainly not no value, but not like firsts obviously. Silver has floated adding a third round and this is part of my belief - that they want to add more forms of currency since so many teams have blown their stack on firsts.
Anyway, I believe the Spurs will want to move Cedi, Dougie, and Devonte as 'good soldier' moves. They've put their time in on a bad team and deserve to play for contenders if they can. Same way the FO made sure Poeltl, Murray, and Derrick were sent to good teams and not ty ones. Almost, getting seconds for them, if possible, is beside the point.
The third round idea is interesting to me, considering how second rounders already have such a low hit rate. My only thought is that the third round would be viewed as a two-way slot draft (which the back half of the 2nd round kind of already is). I don't know where else these 30 extra players are going to go.
Only thing I can think of is if they go for an honest-to-god farm system and can draft guys with the explicit understanding that they are going to spend one or more years in the d-league. You'd think that would've been something worked out in the CBA though. Seems way too big to put into an amendment. UDFAs are good for the league, so I don't see the benefit of adding a third round, though I still like the idea of adding some compensatory picks in between rounds 1 and 2 for teams that lost major free agents.
What would folks think about Quentin Grimes? On one hand, it seems pretty dumb to trade for a two-guard given the roster already. But Grimes seems to offer something different in terms of speed and rim-attacking ability. I think he'd fit in better with the starters than Champ does, for example.
I feel for Cedi, Dougie, and Devonte . Only Cedi has been given some real minutes this season, the other two not so much. Wonder what Devonte did to get into Pop's doghouse, but he at least has pg skills more so than blake or sohan. Just a shame that they may be traded for a not so valuable 2nd rounders, if not just out released for some younger player with some potential. These guys aren't the best, but they are vets who provide decent experience to a lackluster marginal team. I'm hoping they at least keep Cedi, the dude hustles.
Grimes is better than Champ, but he's not worth giving up much for. If we took him in some 3 team construct and we were contributing a 2nd then that would be fine.
Koloko has career threatening blood clots and unable to practice.
Doug + Cedi for Fournier + Grimes
Why does NYK do this? Are they trying to get off of Grimes for some reason?
I like Grimes, but not for the Spurs. They don't need a high floor/low ceiling, borderline starter 3 and D SG and they'd be small on the wings again with him or Vassell playing as the nominal SF.
Also, in a vacuum he's probably worth a pick in the 20 range, but because the Knicks have plenty of those already, he's worth more to them as a solid, young cost controlled player to offer in a package for Murray or someone of that ilk.
Supposedly the Rockets are still interested in Capela too, which should make it easier . . .
To Hawks: McDermott, Graham, Oladipo, Landale, 2 1sts via Spurs (Raptors or Bulls + Hawks '27?)
To Rockets: Capela, Mathews
To Spurs: Murray, Mills
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Yes. They apparently want a forward who can be in their rotation and to reduce the glut of guards. That's a problem the Spurs would inherit from NYK if they do the trade above.
To be fair the spurs don’t have an nba caliber SG other than Vassell
This Trade is Successful!
- Player
- Salary
- PER
- M. Fultz
- $17,000,000
- 11.4
- PG
- 1 Year
- W. Carter Jr.
- $13,050,000
- 13.5
- C
- 3 Years
- Jalen Suggs
- $7,252,080
- 13.3
- SG
- 2 Years
- Salary
- PER
- D. McDermott
- $13,750,000
- 10.1
- SF
- 1 Year
- D. Graham
- $12,100,000
- 14.9
- PG
- 2 Years
- Cedi Osman
- $6,718,842
- 12.0
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- 1 Year
Spoiler: none of those teams are interested in Kyle Kuzma.
I hope he goes to the Warriors and gets KO'ed by Donkey.
Amico is trash and is known for making up so yeah that's probably nonsense
I don’t follow the Knicks very closely, but I thought they had generally solved this problem with the OG trade? Their continued interest in Murray leads me to believe they’d be more looking for an upgrade at SG next to Brunson as opposed to shedding guard depth just to bring in role playing forward depth (specifically referring to the proposal of sending them Doug and Cedi for Fournier and Grimes).
So don't get a good player in Murray because the Spurs ed up and overpaid Collins? Not that I wouldn't want to trade for Trae if he became available.
It's hard for me to see the Kuzma interest for the Spurs... I'm having a hard time buying that report..
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