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    Where’s that quote?
    Above.

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    Popovich continued: "Of course, we add a player with Victor's capabilities, and your prospects look a lot better. But this year, with development, I think one of the important factors to enhance that development is winning. So winning is as important this year as learning last year. So, they've got to continue to learn. But, adding more wins, I think, is appropriate, mandatory and helpful."

    https://www.sacurrent.com/arts/san-a...-says-32772732


    Thanks.

    I still think it was smoke, but YMMV. I mean, if they were about winning more games, wouldn’t last summer’s transaction list have been different? They didn’t intentionally go and get even one player to make the team better. Cedi is OK, but Cleveland paid us to take him, and he was the best of the lot, and the only one not waived.
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    pop said we have to win (the lottery) more than last year (toronto pick, trades for more picks?), so winning (the lottery) was more important than learning (to tank) last year,

    you just need to understand pop speak and the meaning is clear

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    All those preseason interviews made it very clear they were trying to win initially. On paper a starting 5 of Sochan, Vassell, Johnson, Wemby, & Collins should have worked or at least been slightly successful. And it was… for about six and a half games. But as time passed it became obvious that Collins isn’t reliable, Sochan shouldn’t be the point guard, Vassell probably isn’t a #2 option on a playoff team, Johnson had regressed, and Wemby should be at center.

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    Thanks.

    I still think it was smoke, but YMMV. I mean, if they were about winning more games, wouldn’t last summer’s transaction list have been different? They didn’t intentionally go and get even one player to make the team better. Cedi is OK, but Cleveland paid us to take him, and he was the best of the lot, and the only one not waived.
    I can think of one.

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    Sochan has looked awesome. I'll be ready, willing and GLAD to eat crow if he keeps this type of play up. He's been strong defensively, a good playmaker, a big shotmaker. I've got no complaints in the last 2 W's for the 20 year old.

    That said, people acting like his time at PG -- and not TRE JONES STARTING AT PG -- was some sort of catalyst would be blind at this point in the young man's career. Tre Jones has taken the pressure off of EVERYONE, and Sochan is (or should be) probably 2nd or even 1st on that list after Wemby in terms of gra ude.

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    I can think of one.
    Obvsly

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    Where’s that quote?
    you're really the pinnacle of idiocy. Always replying like you know , but never reading anything and just going with your own idiotic narrative of whatever you made up in your head

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    you're really the pinnacle of idiocy. Always replying like you know , but never reading anything and just going with your own idiotic narrative of whatever you made up in your head
    Dude, shut the up. I read, thanked, and acknowledged the quote.
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    Sochan has looked awesome. I'll be ready, willing and GLAD to eat crow if he keeps this type of play up. He's been strong defensively, a good playmaker, a big shotmaker. I've got no complaints in the last 2 W's for the 20 year old.

    That said, people acting like his time at PG -- and not TRE JONES STARTING AT PG -- was some sort of catalyst would be blind at this point in the young man's career. Tre Jones has taken the pressure off of EVERYONE, and Sochan is (or should be) probably 2nd or even 1st on that list after Wemby in terms of gra ude.
    I think it's both factors. But not just Tre starting.

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    Dude, shut the up. I read, thanked, and acknowledged the quote.
    yeah you found out it was said half a season after the fact

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    You can call Sochan a PF or a PG or a backup pitcher. The issue wasn't what you called him, it was who he was matched against. Having him play against lead guards took away his strengths. His defense is much better suited around the basket, with switches and perimeter defense as needed, but the huge change is on offense against players his size. He's much faster and agile than most frontcourt players and this is where his strengths come in.

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    And his ugly ass 3 point shot has been going in. 37% at 2.7 attempts per game. That is significant. FT % at 79%. Now back against front court players, I agree, he should continue to improve.

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    Save for some youthful mistakes, I've been pretty pleased with Sochan the last 10 games. One exception: rebounding. I'm not sure how viable a starting 4 next to Wemby he is at only 5 reb/gm. With that said, before the last game his previous 4 statlines were 7/8/7/8 so the trends are at least going in the right direction.

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    Save for some youthful mistakes, I've been pretty pleased with Sochan the last 10 games. One exception: rebounding. I'm not sure how viable a starting 4 next to Wemby he is at only 5 reb/gm. With that said, before the last game his previous 4 statlines were 7/8/7/8 so the trends are at least going in the right direction.
    he definitely feels like a "small-ball" 4. he's also not really a rim protector

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    So…is he a reliable 3 point shooter now? I keep waiting for him to regress a bit but maybe this is just the new norm.

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    his shot still looks ugly but cant deny the results. with what, 43 games played... hard to just pin it on sample sizes anymore. im glad to eat crow on his shot. he's also 79% from the FT line

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    Yes, Sochan does look legit from 3pt range. He’s at .375 for the season, before his 3 of 6 tonight. Over the previous ten games, before tonight, he shot .382, fully consistent with his season average. Not a world beater, but he’s become a threat.

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    Sochan doesn't need to be a three point sniper to be an effective offensive player. He just needs to be competent from three to complement the rest of his skill set. League average on threes is 36.6%, anything above 35% from your 4 man is gravy imo.

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    his shot still looks ugly but cant deny the results. with what, 43 games played... hard to just pin it on sample sizes anymore. im glad to eat crow on his shot. he's also 79% from the FT line
    No doubt it's about the ugliest shot I've seen since Shawn Marion, but who GAF if it goes in and/or no one wants to guard it because it looks like it shouldn't even touch rim.

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    Stats back the eye test up. He's been playing noticeably better and still coming into his own as a player. Improved shooting, improved defense, and (I don't know what stat could back this up, but) improved decision-making on the court.

    So much for all the "bust" and "non-NBA player" talk...

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    Stats back the eye test up. He's been playing noticeably better and still coming into his own as a player. Improved shooting, improved defense, and (I don't know what stat could back this up, but) improved decision-making on the court.

    So much for all the "bust" and "non-NBA player" talk...
    Yeah it's amazing how much a coach playing a player out of position can make. Exhibit A

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    I'm amused how 38.1% of Jeremy's 3PA are beautiful nothing-but-net splashes, and the others are horrible misses that make you wonder if he's ever shot a basketball before, there is rarely every in-between with him (note: the airballs count the same as the ones that rim out, so as long as he keeps hitting that 38% clip, we good!)

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    Stats back the eye test up. He's been playing noticeably better and still coming into his own as a player. Improved shooting, improved defense, and (I don't know what stat could back this up, but) improved decision-making on the court.

    So much for all the "bust" and "non-NBA player" talk...
    He's a big reason why the team has such a bad record. He doesn't excel at anything. The only player playing well is Wemby and his minutes are monitored.

    Several of the players have to be replaced or moved to the bench. There will be a turnover on the team over the next couple of years with high draft picks coming in. This core needs to be replaced and Sochan is included.

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