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    Explain why. byrant still scored on bowen. Thats a big reason why the spurs lost so many times to the Lakers.
    This season was the first time we lost to them since they had Shaq. I didnt know 1 was a lot.

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    but you don't get it. They turned around weak teams and made them contenders without the benefit of landing a player like Duncan in the lucky draft lottery. Had any of these teams landed Duncan they win les also especially with their good track record of player moves in trades and fa as compared with the spurs.
    If you don't think Dirk was a lucky draft pick, you are insane. They also traded a number one lottery pick for Michael Finley. Without those bits of luck, they wouldn't have been anywhere either.

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    This season was the first time we lost to them since they had Shaq. I didnt know 1 was a lot.
    ? I don't get what your talking about.

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    If you don't think Dirk was a lucky draft pick, you are insane. They also traded a number one lottery pick for Michael Finley. Without those bits of luck, they wouldn't have been anywhere either.
    Dirk was not luck. Trades are not luck. Luck is getting a lucky ping pong ball to land Duncan.

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    ? I don't get what your talking about.
    You are implying that Kobe was the only reason that the Lakers beat the Spurs. There was this Shaq guy that's kind of good that used to be there.

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    Dirk was not luck. Trades are not luck. Luck is getting a lucky ping pong ball to land Duncan.
    If Dirk wasn't a lucky pick, then why didn't the Clippers draft him instead of Olowakandi?

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    Of course Shaq played a big role. But bowen did not stop Bryant nor did he even slow him down. The top players in the league will not be stopped.

    I remember bryant going off many times on Bowen in the playoffs.

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    what has dallas ever done?
    or yeah choked in the finals one of the very few teams ever to blow a 2-0 lead in the finals

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    You are implying that Kobe was the only reason that the Lakers beat the Spurs. There was this Shaq guy that's kind of good that used to be there.
    I am not implying that Kobe was the onlym reason why they won. I'm implying that the lakers won with Bryant not being stopped or slowed down by Bowen.

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    And Kobe 26.6 ppg against us. His year average was 35.4. That's almost a 10 point difference, and THAT IS SOMETHIN. PROPS TO BRUCE.

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    what has dallas ever done?
    or yeah choked in the finals one of the very few teams ever to blow a 2-0 lead in the finals
    Dallas turned a weak team into a contender with bold moves and acquiring talent. More acquired talent than the spurs thru trades and fa. do not even argue that they haven't.

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    Then continue try winning with Bowen starting and continue being disappointed in the playoffs with the core team they have now. What you saw this year you will continue seeing if the spurs only target low end role players.

    And be fooled thinking that the spurs were close and would have won a championship this year. Reality is dallas controllled that series and the spurs played to matchup with them.

    The spurs are declining with their core and present roster as it is.

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    And Kobe 26.6 ppg against us. His year average was 35.4. That's almost a 10 point difference, and THAT IS SOMETHIN. PROPS TO BRUCE.
    And I bet his FG% is just as dramatic. If Kobe's scoring 27 and taking ten more shots, those are shots his teammates aren't getting.

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    Dallas turned a weak team into a contender with bold moves and acquiring talent. More acquired talent than the spurs thru trades and fa. do not even argue that they haven't.
    The Mavericks have taken on bloated contracts that they can afford to sit on until they have value as expiring contracts. There's nothing particularly bold about that unless you do it and you don't have 2.2 billion dollars in your checking account. They have traded and lost as many good players as they've gained, and they've gained a load of value for trades from all the high draft picks they've had by being so abysmal for ten years. At some point, making trades with players like they were bubble gum cards, you are going to get lucky. All that said, the only thing the Mavs have to show for it is barely beating the undermanned Spurs in a seven game series only to choke against a vastly inferior Miami Heat team. That's hardly reason for the Spurs to adopt their management style.

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    And Kobe 26.6 ppg against us. His year average was 35.4. That's almost a 10 point difference, and THAT IS SOMETHIN. PROPS TO BRUCE.
    Wrong Bryant Averaged 30 ppg against the spurs.
    fg% 38.3 for the year fg% 45

    But he shot worse % against other teams. Does that mean those teams have better defenders then Bowen?
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    Then continue try winning with Bowen starting and continue being disappointed in the playoffs with the core team they have now. What you saw this year you will continue seeing if the spurs only target low end role players.

    And be fooled thinking that the spurs were close and would have won a championship this year. Reality is dallas controllled that series and the spurs played to matchup with them.

    The spurs are declining with their core and present roster as it is.
    You are a fool. I'm done.

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    ? I don't get what your talking about.
    You said earlier he is why we lost MANY times you are saying at least 2. And we havent lost to them in a single season twice since they had Shaq.

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    You are a fool. I'm done.
    You are a fool.

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    Wrong Bryant Averaged 30 ppg against the spurs.
    fg% 38.3 for the year fg% 45

    But he shot worse % against other teams. Does that mean those teams have better defenders then Bowen?
    your link? Here's Mine.
    In 3 games he had 23, 29, and 25 points. Average that it equals actually 25.6 points. So, squeeze me.

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    Re count your games. He played 4 times against the spurs.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/...s;_ylt=Aod8vAT

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    Rhttp://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3118/splits;_ylt=Aod8vAT.fU_qZYYMXHTHJOikvLYF

    Re count your games. He played 4 times against the spurs.

    How do you post links?
    Even so. If you get someone to be below their average it is really good. And that is Bruce's job. And he has yet to fail. You click on the little globe with the lock in front of it and then put in the address.

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    He averged 24 against Orlando and 27 against Minn and 26 against Utah with 33% shooting. Does that mean they have better defenders then bowen on those teams? you see how lame your argument is by pulling up his scoring average for regular season games.

    You cannot stop great players like Bryant so do not make false claims that Bowen stopped Bryant.

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    Wrong Bryant Averaged 30 ppg against the spurs.
    fg% 38.3 for the year fg% 45

    But he shot worse % against other teams. Does that mean those teams have better defenders then Bowen?
    I'll live with an opponent taking a whole bunch of shots at a 38% clip anyday, no matter how many points he scores.

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    So have the Spurs returned any of their three championships yet? Clearly their front office does such a poor job that they're undeserving...

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    So have the Spurs returned any of their three championships yet? Clearly their front office does such a poor job that they're undeserving...
    Any team in the league wins championships with Duncan and Robinson on the same roster. Anyone could have drafted those guys. It was the luck of the lottery that landed those two guys.

    What great trades or fa have the spurs gotten? To claim Bowen is your best acquisistion outside the draft in the last 10 years is bad.

    Put up what they got with what other teams have gotten and its weak. They are an epitome of the saying that its better to be lucky than good.

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