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I wasn't quoting you, you miserable geezer.
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I wasn't quoting you, you miserable geezer.
No doubt if Toronto starts sitting players they can go on a long losing streak and there are still many games left in the season.
They can get into the bottom 3 with only Detroit and Washington with worse records.
It's looking more and more like that Toronto pick is not coming this year.
If we keep sitting Branham and Collins we will continue to improve, which is great on one hand but this is our last chance to get our own high draft pick, in my opinion. Interesting decisions ahead.
Question for the Pop Haters: do you want tanking or winning?
Toronto very nearly beat Atlanta. Pretty crazy down the stretch. Murray was a game time scratch.
Toronto is 1-9 without Poetl.
It seems Toronto is heading towards a fire sale, while Atlanta, Brooklyn, Memphis, Golden State want to win. We might surpass Toronto at this pace. There's a growing chance the pick may not convey this year.
Finally people are starting to get on board what a couple of us have seen weeks ago.
give us jakob back for their pick back
Raptors will get a top 5 pick, damn
Which isn't too bad considering the riches in the draft next year, I think.
I mean, nothing's really happened yet. The players clearly wanted the win but lost on a putback dunk. It would have given them an extra W. As it is, I don't really know if Portland will catch them and SA is six games back. Depends on whether the Spurs actively try to win.
Either way it's not a huge loss if we try again next year. As a note, Toronto has two first round picks other than this one, Indiana and OKC at 20 and 28 and also the 31st in the second.
Nah, the pick has 2 more years to convey, I'd still take the pick over Jakob, there's no place in the team for a 20M a year center who doesn't space the floor.give us jakob back for their pick back
Maybe, but on the other hand, if they do that this year, they might as well do that again next year. I don't think they're the kind of team who'd go for a 3 year tank, but if I were them I would do a 2 year tank (this one + the next) then pivot signing a few FAs like Houston did. That may really hurt the pick.
If they move Bruce Brown & Poeltl, they're going to be worse than this Spurs team the rest of the way. The question is whether the 6 game difference will be enough to hold them off, but if the Spurs speed it up it may very well be the case.
Raptors should get much better when Jakob Poeltl comes back from injury. Their whole team is way too small without him there.
If they're tanking then this year then you better believe they're tanking for the much better '25 draft.
The Spurs SHOULD be better than them next year as well.
If that pick doesn't convey this draft then it'll never convey tbh, WrightSuckers
People say that 25 is a rich draft, but they don’t know. What is known is that there are a couple of players that are good at the top 1 or 2. Since the pick conveys only at 7 or lower, we can’t get those players with Toronto’s pick,so there’s no advantage to waiting for it to convey. There’s also the train wreck scenario where we have 5 FRPs in 2025.
How many picks do we even want?
In the upcoming 4 drafts, Spurs have 7 (8 if Toronto conveys) FRPs.
We currently have 5 useful players with value on the roster: Wemby, Devin, Keldon, Jeremy and Tre.
Obiously, other than Wemby, those 4 could get traded, but if they do, Spurs would surely be getting some useful players back. Or picks.
Then there are Wesley, Champagnie, Barlow and Bassey who could become regular bench pieces.
Even if they don't, Spurs have a minimum of rotation players for the future and 7 picks.
Meaning that 5 spots are open. And you obviously don't want to fill your entire roster with rookies.
Then there's cap space for free agents. Maybe not stars, but good role players.
TL;DR point being that we kind of need to stop obsessing with draft picks, we've got plenty.
This year we'll get another top5 pick, next year we have three guaranteed FRPs, even without Raptors. Meaning that it should be easy to trade into top5 if we really want to.
I'd say that the next year should be the last draft for top10 picks and from summer 2025 we need to focus on actually getting players that are already good because we don't want to spend Wemby's entire rookie contract in the lottery.
And there's the boatload of second rounders, which can easily be used to trade up into late first round.
u raptors
Its almost like the Spurs need to consolidate their draft assets for a proven star.
i doubt will we get chicago,Charlote or raptors pick next year .They will suck next year and tank to try to get flagg.
At 6, TOR has, what a 43% of falling to 7, is that right? Too soon to say. But they seem like they will end up 4-6 if they really tank. And if they end up at 5, there's about a 37% chance to fall to 7 or below I think.
The ultimate question is: will Pop push the tank or allow the team to continue to do what's working? Branham's minutes and play could be crucial, as ridiculous as that sounds. As a fan, I will convince myself that if we win that's good, if we lose, it's good for the tank, basically.
Yeah Chicago tanks next season with DMR set to leave not sure about the Hornets or Raptors but both could easily end up tanking too.
There's not enough talent left on that team to bring them back up to the point where that pick conveys. Unless a couple teams pass them on lotto night. Spurs just have to hope it conveys in one of the next 2 seasons.
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