spurs trade rumors

[scott]

Derrick, Dejounte, Dakob, Doug. Pop hate players who name starts with D. Vassell and Barlow better sleep with one eye open this summer.

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[exstatic]

I'm not Bruno, but I can answer this.

Under the new CBA after this season ends and before his guarantee date (july 1st) his outgoing salary for trading purposes will be equal to the lesser of his current salary and the guaranteed part of next year's, which means it's going to be $2.85 mil. Thus no team would be able to shed salary by waivig him. If anyone wanted to do it they would have had to do it today.

So, no - his contract isn't valuable. It's been a ST fantasy for a while that teams will begin sending valuable picks only to reduce their tax a little.

This. It’s funny, because the Spurs regularly used this loop hole, and they closed it. Many teams would trade a player, with a wink deal to re-sign him after being waived. After we did it with Brent Barry, they shut that down, too.

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[CGD]

Damn thats harsh. Must’ve been trash

[spurraider21]

Derrick, Dejounte, Dakob, Doug. Pop hate players who name starts with D. Vassell and Barlow better sleep with one eye open this summer.

ah yes. Dakob Poeltl

[BacktoBasics]

Damn thats harsh. Must’ve been trash

A problem child that never had any productive minutes.

[Mr. Body]

Charlotte fired their coach because he didn't play Kai Jones or James Bouknight.

[baseline bum]

Wish Murray had gotten traded for Grimes and picks to make those ATL picks stronger.

[DPG21920]

I'm not Bruno, but I can answer this.

Under the new CBA after this season ends and before his guarantee date (july 1st) his outgoing salary for trading purposes will be equal to the lesser of his current salary and the guaranteed part of next year's, which means it's going to be $2.85 mil. Thus no team would be able to shed salary by waivig him. If anyone wanted to do it they would have had to do it today.

So, no - his contract isn't valuable. It's been a ST fantasy for a while that teams will begin sending valuable picks only to reduce their tax a little.

Appreciate it - I remembered a change to that rule recently but didn’t recall exactly how it worked. Thanks again for answering

[poopbox]

Collins was the Spurs' best player at the end of last year. Clearly his confidence is shot and he's trying to figure out his role. Many teams would be overjoyed to have him. Maybe he doesn't return to form, but once again Spurs fans despise nothing more than their own players or misunderstand anything more than their own players.

[Mr. Body]

I mean, it's true. I get that there's an orgy of pissing and moaning here, but not everyone is a child.

[Chinook]

I think many teams would've been interested in post-ASB 2023 Collins. He was a productive big on a good contract. I think if the Spurs could've seen the future, they would've traded him during last off-season to a team who needed what Collins provided on paper. I agree the dude's been more cursed that bad this year, but he's also been bad and is being paid too much to be bad. I don't have him as that hard of a contract to move if the Spurs make an aggressive trade, but they'd have to pay quite a bit to get cap space and would still have to pay about a first to get an expiring for him this summer.

[Mr. Body]

He's clearly a better player than this. He's clearly struggling with confidence and a different role. He's clearly not the only player struggling on a bad team.

It's just people who know jack about anything, much less basketball, compensating with a circlejerk of pissing and moaning. It's beyond stupid. More than likely he'll be fine in the long run. Otherwise they can move him and he'll be fine somewhere else.

[vy65]

He's clearly a better player than this. He's clearly struggling with confidence and a different role. He's clearly not the only player struggling on a bad team.

It's just people who know jack about anything, much less basketball, compensating with a circlejerk of pissing and moaning. It's beyond stupid. More than likely he'll be fine in the long run. Otherwise they can move him and he'll be fine somewhere else.

Based on what? At this point, this seasons sample size is larger than last’s, so what we’re seeing is the norm compared to an aberration. He’s an under-sized, ty defending big who can’t make any sort of a dent in a game, unless he’s a focal point - and your team is irrevocably ed if MMA Daniel-son is a key point of your game plan. That’s to say nothing of his contract.

And considering the sheer volume of your abortion-tier takes, you might want to stop with the old man act, take a look at the mirror, and just shut the up for a minute.

[NASpurs]

He's clearly a better player than this. He's clearly struggling with confidence and a different role. He's clearly not the only player struggling on a bad team.

It's just people who know jack about anything, much less basketball, compensating with a circlejerk of pissing and moaning. It's beyond stupid. More than likely he'll be fine in the long run. Otherwise they can move him and he'll be fine somewhere else.

You like to hear yourself talk. Jesus Christ, shut the up already.

[poopbox]

He's clearly a better player than this. He's clearly struggling with confidence and a different role. He's clearly not the only player struggling on a bad team.

It's just people who know jack about anything, much less basketball, compensating with a circlejerk of pissing and moaning. It's beyond stupid. More than likely he'll be fine in the long run. Otherwise they can move him and he'll be fine somewhere else.

Are you zach collins?

[vy65]

Here’s a highlight from earlier in this very thread:

I don't think there's much market for him, tbh. Osman maybe but the team likes him around.

Literally minutes later

U sOn uV a B!tcH iM In

[timtonymanu]

You like to hear yourself talk. Jesus Christ, shut the up already.

Any loser that was “in” on Primo has no credibility.

[Atl Spur]

Any loser that was “in” on Primo has no credibility.

lol and the saga continues; no Livio Jean Charles references? Grow up homie

[JPB]

Dallas praying Luka is staying (player option in 2026).

In a few months they gave up or owe:

- top two 2027 FRP to WAS
- 2028 FRP swap with OKC
-2029 unprotected FRP to BKN
-2030 FRP swap with SA

Talk about jeopardizing your future.

[timtonymanu]

lol and the saga continues; no Livio Jean Charles references? Grow up homie

Chill homie. Wasn’t even a jab at you.

[CGD]

Dallas praying Luka is staying (player option in 2026).

In a few months they gave up or owe:

- top two 2027 FRP to WAS
- 2028 FRP swap with OKC
-2029 unprotected FRP to BKN
-2030 FRP swap with SA

Talk about jeopardizing your future.

Woah, hadn’t appreciated that. That’s terrible management. Duka is definitely a flight risk

[spurraider21]

I think many teams would've been interested in post-ASB 2023 Collins. He was a productive big on a good contract. I think if the Spurs could've seen the future, they would've traded him during last off-season to a team who needed what Collins provided on paper. I agree the dude's been more cursed that bad this year, but he's also been bad and is being paid too much to be bad. I don't have him as that hard of a contract to move if the Spurs make an aggressive trade, but they'd have to pay quite a bit to get cap space and would still have to pay about a first to get an expiring for him this summer.

post ASB collins was a legitimately good and very versatile offensive player. wasnt much on defensively, but wasnt a trainwreck either.

he might be more cursed defensively than last year with people scoring through contact against him seemingly at all, but the outside shooting falling apart is on him. being a good high post passer and ability to score hooks in the low post is nice, but the shooting is what made him worth the money, and that has completely evaporated.

people wouldnt care as much about his defense if he was still bringing that complete package on the other end