The Fourth Best Passer To Wemby Sits At 3.7… Malaki Branham. So There’s An Obvious Gap Between Sochan And The Next Best Passer. Imagine That.
If You Wanted To Be Mad At Anyone For Not Passing To Wemby, Keldon And Collins Would Have Been More Valid As Their Numbers Are Lower.
The time of ball handling possession for Sochan vs Vassell must be quite large.
Regardless, I expect the average for Vassell has increased as the season has gone on as he does seem to try more in the pick and roll the last month
And Collins might be higher if they aren't counting turnovers. Collins loves to pass, out of bounds perhaps most of all.
Most of it is due to PNR those low assist numbers of Wemby and Sochan.
Sochan and wemby have been having very good since he moved to PF which makes me wonder if you have seen them play since.
And what answer with a question? You didn’t ask anything. I was wondering if you’ve watched them play because your comment was outdated. You seemed to answer with a question.
You rely heavily on the eye test and kept stating sochans inability to pass to wemby as a fact. The guy is a power forward. He doesn’t have a lot of assists a game. But fact is he is number three in passes to wemby, behind the two guards and just slightly behind Vassell. What do you want?
Finally, no, a question is a question. Not everything is an argumentation.
Last edited by ambchang; 02-02-2024 at 08:49 AM.
Per the stat you're using, Sochan has 36 assists to Vassell, 32 to Collins, 27 to Victor and 23 to Keldon. So that does seem low. But I think the issue with using assist alone is that it's a dependent stat that has to be finished by the receiver.
So if you look at Sochan's passes that ends up as a shot attempt, it actually comes out like this: 109 to Victor, 101 to Vassell, 94 to Keldon, 76 to Collins, and 27 to Branham. The problem is field goal % resulting from those looks. Victor is at 26.6% and Vassell is at 49.5%, Keldon at 36.2% and Collins at 47.4%. Shot attempt is also a dependent stat, but I think if you want to look at how much someone is looking to set up the other guy, it's probably better than assist numbers alone.
Another way of looking at this would be to look at % of Sochan's passes to the receiver that end up as a shot attempt for the receiver. If you do that, it looks like this: 43% for Victor, 34% for Vassell and Keldon, 29% for Branham, 28% for Collins and 13% for Tre. In other word, Sochan’s passes to Wemby are more likely to be set-up to score passes and not just moving the offense passes. Probably this is why it may seem like Sochan is not looking for Wemby. If he’s just setting up and moving the offenses along, he’s more likely to pass to backcourt and wing players, not front court. So he;s making more passes for that purpose. But when Sochan is looking to set up someone, it’s more for Wemby than anyone else, and by quite a bit.
Also, I would not rely too much on "eye test". It can be helpful, I think, but it's usually just another way of saying "confirmation bias".
Last edited by toki9; 02-02-2024 at 09:09 AM.
Sochan is a good player that will be on the Spurs for a long time, which means we are going to have to read years of Spurstalk ing about him.
They’ll stop ing and move on to the new flavor of the month……a lot of clowns in here! Word salads galore….
I’ll stop ing about Sochan if he can ever manage to go 1 single game where he doesn’t airball or fall over himself every other play for no reason
He been rebounding like a mad man lately
2nd coming of Rodman
If Sochan Can Maintain His 3pt Percentage For The Rest Of The Year + Continue Being A Versatile Defender + Suddenly Become A Good Rebounder As He Has Been For The Last Couple Games… Then He Really Does Become A Perfect Partner Next To Wemby Tbh
He Was Shutting Down Ingram And In Small Spurts Locking Down Banchero The Other Night. His Focus On Defense Has Been Otherworldly As Of Late. A PF Next To Wemby Needs To Be Able To Have The Lateral Agility To Match Up With Today’s Forwards And Sochan Has That. It Would Be An Injustice To Wemby To Move Him Back To PF Where It’s Not His Natural Position Or Put A Strictly Low Post PF Next To Him That Will Force Him To Operate Outside More On Offense And Defense. He’s At The Sweet Spot Right Now.
I hope Sochan continues to develop, but honestly the most encouraging thing about him if he pans out is that it eases some of my significant concerns about the front office. Since the primo pick, I had significant reservations about the competence of the front office and their ability to surround any franchise player with enough talent to compete. If they can turn 9, 20, and 25 into a core starter and a good backup, that's hitting at least average if not above average honestly for their draft position.
Low volume shooter hot streak is over. Back to being a below avg shooter % wise despite every look being wide open. I’ll give him some credit for not airballing one tonight, massive improvement for him. People think an undersized can’t shoot, defend, or do 1 thing well PF is a long term player for this team
Good for him, I was surprised he wasn’t selected.
Sharpe injured, or they found out he sucks?
Sharpe was playing well before the injury, averaging 20 points a game.
Then came back from injury too soon and numbers started to fall.
During Sharpe’s ramp up in basketball activities to return to play, he experienced worsening of his symptoms. Due to his lack of progression, it has been determined that Sharpe will undergo corrective surgery to address a core muscle injury. Surgery is tentatively planned for later this week.
The idea that Sharpe sucks is a Spurstalk thing, not reality.
He is a poor man's Jalen Green or a homeless man's Zach Lavine. Julian Champaigne with a green light. Lonnie Walker with average intelligence.
Last edited by rankingtear; 02-09-2024 at 03:02 AM.
Sharpe has incredible talent but little foundation. He also has shown a propensity to avoid work or showing himself compe ively.
Welcome to the Headband Sochan Era!!!
Trick question: those are not mutually exclusive.
Scottie Barnes last night: 3/15 FG, 7 points. Sochan locked him up and outplayed him scoring 16
Going back and forth with Sochan, but his skillset is just too scalable in the playoff and in the future, specifically his versatility on defense. Haven't watched full games lately but watching the box , the other teams primary option seem to struggle early going against him. The problem is offensively we are nowhere near able to cover for him like DEN is doing with Aaron Gordon. If Wemby ever improves his perimeter scoring , Sochan can occupy more of his spot closer to the rim even as the occasional roll man. And you never know he is 20 still with some creation flashes could be a legit 2-way guy in time.
Sochan played well, but the announcers said that 4 of Wemby’s 10 blocks were on Barnes.
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