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    Unpopular opinion but I’d like to use the Raptors pick to move back and get an extra pick. Maybe work a deal for both of New York’s late firsts. Not a fan of mock drafts having us pick Cody Williams. He’s not even my favorite prospect on Colorado. That would be KJ Simpson.

    Rob Dillingham with our first pick
    Ryan Dunn with NY’s 1st
    KJ Simpson with NY’s 1st via DAL
    Zach Edey with our 2nd rounder

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    I have a feeling Risacher and Buzelis are pretty high on the Spurs' board, possibly top 3 both of them. I don't think either of them will be available by Toronto's pick, but I if there's a chance to grab both, I wouldn't be shocked if that's exactly what they do rather than pick up a PG.
    If I had to guess I'd think the Spurs Board looks something like this:

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    Just a guess..

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    Why do you have Trae on your avatar pic? We'll get a discount Trae by picking Dilly with the Raptors' pick.
    Dilly is my guy if we don’t trade for Trae. Standing pat isn’t a problem to me as long as we take HIM. Now if we don’t make a move for Trae and take Nikola ing Topic, I’ll meltdown.

    I would rather have a scoring PG that would need to work on his playmaking over a playmaking PG that can’t shoot. IMO it’s easier to get better at being a facilitator than it is to fix a broken shot.

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    Ivisic/Kolek as guys to take in early second or trading back up for late first are ones i really like
    I'd throw in Ajay Mitc (my personal favorite at #33) or KJ Simpson in there too.

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    Chomche with the 2nd round pick, tbh.

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    He's got ways to go as far as shooting, but he's not horrendous (about 30% from 3 & 70% from the line, last I checked). But he CAN put the ball on the floor, the guy is super agile and coordinated, has excellent mobility and can keep up laterally with wings. If the Spurs buy into his shot having a chance to develop, I think he could pair with Wemby very well, where on defense Wemby would operate more as a rim protector and Sarr would guard on the perimeter, and possibly the opposite on offense given Wemby's incredible improvements from 3.
    Sarr is a good dribbler for a 7 footer. He wouldn't be the projected top pick if he couldn't dribble or shoot. You aren't drafting Sarr as a high volume 3 point shooter.

    It would give Wemby some flexibility to play away from the basket at times( this would make him happy to not be stuck at center all the time) with another rim defender in Sarr. I am expecting Wemby to improve enough as a 3 pt shooter to be a matchup nightmare. Sarr enables Wemby to play away from the basket at times.

    Sarr is also a strong athletic finisher at the rim. Sochan cannot be effective defensively in the post, he's too short and doesn't jump well as a shot blocker intimidator and Collins shouldn't be in the rotation at the 5. Sarr gives the spurs another athletic 7 foot defender which will be huge when Wemby sits.

    It will take the Spurs to get the first pick probably to have a chance at getting Sarr but if they do you draft him then take the best PG with the Toronto pick as there will be pg options with the Toronto pick.

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    is matas buzelis rebound and shotblocking foreal...Seems to be good at rebounding and blocking shots.
    But his team losing alot....Not gonna judge him on that,Cause we got wemby and are losing.
    But whats the reason they losing this much,Bad teammates or bad coaching or what.

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    is matas buzelis rebound and shotblocking foreal...Seems to be good at rebounding and blocking shots.
    But his team losing alot....Not gonna judge him on that,Cause we got wemby and are losing.
    But whats the reason they losing this much,Bad teammates or bad coaching or what.
    Ignite is a poorly run dumpster fire playing older guys in a pretty pathetic G-league

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    Dilly is my guy if we don’t trade for Trae. Standing pat isn’t a problem to me as long as we take HIM. Now if we don’t make a move for Trae and take Nikola ing Topic, I’ll meltdown.

    I would rather have a scoring PG that would need to work on his playmaking over a playmaking PG that can’t shoot. IMO it’s easier to get better at being a facilitator than it is to fix a broken shot.
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    He's got ways to go as far as shooting, but he's not horrendous (about 30% from 3 & 70% from the line, last I checked). But he CAN put the ball on the floor, the guy is super agile and coordinated, has excellent mobility and can keep up laterally with wings. If the Spurs buy into his shot having a chance to develop, I think he could pair with Wemby very well, where on defense Wemby would operate more as a rim protector and Sarr would guard on the perimeter, and possibly the opposite on offense given Wemby's incredible improvements from 3.
    Sure he can bounce the ball but his offense is basically roll man, slasher, and transition. He is not doing isoes or running pnr. He doesn't have much of a post game.

    I don't hate him. He reminds of Dwight Howard's game. I mean that as a compliment in that Howard was a player that came in and was effective immediately and never got better because of his lack of dedication. I am assuming Sarr has a better head so his floor is high and his ceiling higher.

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    Ivisic/Kolek as guys to take in early second or trading back up for late first are ones i really like
    Maybe Justin Edwards and Antonio Reeves of Kentucky are in that range too. What if we could have 2 guards from kentucky who shoot 40+ or 50 percent from 3?

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    Sarr's career path is quite unique. He started to play in France. From 14 to 16 years old he played with Real Madrid youth teams in Spain. From 16 to 18 years old, he played in the US for the overtime elite league. He is playing this year in Australia.
    He is an 18 years old that has already played in 4 countries.

    Regarding Sarr, the obvious question is what kind of player do you want to put alongside Wembanyama in the frontcourt. Personally, I want to put a lot of mobility and spacing around Victor. I don't think Spurs should spend a top10 pick on a big that is slow and/or without a good 3 point shot. Sarr, Filipowski, Clingan or Edey aren't good picks for Spurs.

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    If I had to guess I'd think the Spurs Board looks something like this:

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    Just a guess..
    I bet Cody will be up there closer to the end.

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    I bet Cody will be up there closer to the end.
    Why do you think so? Can't get a read on Cody, he does not fit any desirable archetype.

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    Sarr's career path is quite unique. He started to play in France. From 14 to 16 years old he played with Real Madrid youth teams in Spain. From 16 to 18 years old, he played in the US for the overtime elite league. He is playing this year in Australia.
    He is an 18 years old that has already played in 4 countries.

    Regarding Sarr, the obvious question is what kind of player do you want to put alongside Wembanyama in the frontcourt. Personally, I want to put a lot of mobility and spacing around Victor. I don't think Spurs should spend a top10 pick on a big that is slow and/or without a good 3 point shot. Sarr, Filipowski, Clingan or Edey aren't good picks for Spurs.
    Sarr is in a completely different category than the other 3 guys in terms of mobility. Probably the one thing he's got in common with them is that they both have 2 legs and 2 arms, other than that they're completely different players. The shooting aspect is a valid concern though, if the Spurs are confident on some of the other big wings out there (Risacher, Buzelis) it definitely makes a lot of sense to go with them as a complement to Wemby.

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    Dillingham is miles ahead of Branham both as a 3 pt shooter (elite) and as a playmaker (good and improving), and there's not even a difference in terms of defense (both horrid). Not a comparable situation.

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    Dillingham is miles ahead of Branham both as a 3 pt shooter (elite) and as a playmaker (good and improving), and there's not even a difference in terms of defense (both horrid). Not a comparable situation.
    Sorry but watching Branham fighting over screens last nights against NBA wings and I find to give this take credence difficult.

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    I saw a post once on the RewlGM draft board that argued that Sarr was an overrated athlete and finisher due to how many of his dunk attempts grazed rim and other layup attempts should have been dunks

    Having only watched highlight reels or scouting videos, that is something that struck me as well, at least in the number of layup and short short attempts in the clips that could/should have been dunks if he was really such a great athlete. Limited sample biased by the footage available, so I don't know if that's really an issue or not

    Are people sure he is that kind of elite above the rim athlete to be good enough for a top 3 or 5 pick?

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    Sarr is in a completely different category than the other 3 guys in terms of mobility. Probably the one thing he's got in common with them is that they both have 2 legs and 2 arms, other than that they're completely different players. The shooting aspect is a valid concern though, if the Spurs are confident on some of the other big wings out there (Risacher, Buzelis) it definitely makes a lot of sense to go with them as a complement to Wemby.
    My thing with Sarr isn't that he is or isn't a good player, or will be, but that the fit is so totally unclear. Of course it'd be nice to have a mobile shotblocker coming off the bench, but that's a hefty price for a backup. I don't think a non-shooting big man works as a starter alongside Wembanyama. Would I take a swing at Sarr with, say, a #10 pick? Absolutely. A top pick is too rich.

    To me, the team more needs beef, and that's what we missed with Bassey going down. Filipowski is a big, strong dude, as is Clingan. I think both those guys can be credible (for their size) going out on the perimeter to defend when needed. I don't think Edey will be. In any case, those are the types I'm more interested in, for when we get slaughtered by Andre Drummond on the board or there's no stopping Embiid. At least there's some resistance.

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    Sorry but watching Branham fighting over screens last nights against NBA wings and I find to give this take credence difficult.
    Dillingham vs. Branham is an interesting comp to me, as someone who likes both. I root for Branham and hope he figures things out. I think he will, whether he sticks here or not.

    Branham. More of a curling, midrange, pacy threat. Developing deep range threat. Threat as a cutter. More of an in-the-flow scorer. Pretty savvy finisher inside. Seems kind of scared to play well, like he needs permission to be good. Strictly a spot-up three point shooter or stepping into the shot, not a movement shooter. Content to post on wings and get the ball on secondary actions. Getting better at boarding and getting assists. Good ball-handler, but does not necessarily see the floor while moving with it. Good size and strength for his position. Dies on screens, like he hits the screen and it's over, loses effort and attention, cancels himself from defensive plays when shots go up, like his role is over. Not really great instincts, either. Starting to use his body and strength better on defense, especially on drives. Need to watch more to see if he's canceling himself and dying on screens as much. I believe he can become a better defender but will require constant engagement and purpose.

    Dillingham. Works best with the ball in his hands, at least initiating, but can play off-ball. Not sure he can scale down. Exceptional quickness and mobility, changing direction and exceptionally shifty with the ball. Superb counters at his age. I think few NBA defenders will prevent him from getting to where he wants to go. Can get to the rim but weak in finishing. Small player who plays even smaller. Good but not exceptional passer, looks for lobs and skip passes. Can get really hot. Seems to have a clutch mentality. Has very good range and can shoot threes in small spaces and in movement. Will never be a rebounder. Fouls a lot. Defense is a big issue. Partly due to poor coaching, although he's engaged, communicative, and is trying hard to get better (by watching on the court). Will never overcome his size. Is lead-footed and blown by on defense, but can probably improve with seasoning. Positioning, rotations, assignments, all a mess, but improving. Quickness can make up for screens, but needs to be done.

    Vs. Really different players! In almost every way - how they like their shots, how they get them, even how they're bad at defense in different ways. To me Dillingham's range of outcomes is much wider -- bust potential, star potential. Branham I think is definitely an NBA pro-level guy, long-term career. Dillingham, could go either way.

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    Sarr is in a completely different category than the other 3 guys in terms of mobility. Probably the one thing he's got in common with them is that they both have 2 legs and 2 arms, other than that they're completely different players. The shooting aspect is a valid concern though, if the Spurs are confident on some of the other big wings out there (Risacher, Buzelis) it definitely makes a lot of sense to go with them as a complement to Wemby.
    im much less concerned about Sarr's ability to coexist with Wemby defensively than offensively.

    Opposite with Filipowski

    thats why i think id rather just wait and take Ivisic later as a candidate to be the lead backup. provides good shot-blocking, shooting, and passing. he's definitely more slow footed than wemby but he is pretty tall so can just hang back in drop coverage which we do anyway with a non-shotblocker in Collins

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    Giddey needs to be able to hit from 18 and out

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    Giddey needs to be able to hit from 18 and out
    Under 18 is really his sweet spot.

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    But still 2 for 4 from 3 last night.

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