And sometimes people's takes are just cliches put in place of wisdom. Kawhi didn't have the platform to even shoot 3's when he came in. Prima facie your take is stupid.
Kawhi was an incredible defender, underrated playmaker, and got over 10 rebounds a game. Risacher doesn't do any of that . His asst/to is negative. He doesn't rebound. His defense is only 'pretty good.'
And Kawhi was drafted 15th.
There's absolutely no reason to think Risacher will develop those skills. He's stiff, moves okay, makes okay passes. I'd love to draft him at #15 or even like #8, where he would be in a normal draft.
That is not the point and you are moving the goalpost
You have dropped that Risacher will not improve to now making the assumption that any weakness he has now cannot be improved upon at 20 years old. Still stupid but different.
What is obvious is the truth is secondary to your preference in your 'analysis.'
Not moving the goalposts. How?
I'm very consistent in this. I don't think Risacher is more than a role-player. I've always said this. I don't think he has the platform to do more than he's doing now -- shooting and playing pretty okay defense. He doesn't do anything else and I don't believe he'll do anything else.
There's nearly every player in the draft who I would pick at a certain point in that draft. I don't like Collier, but I would draft him in the 20s. Risacher is an archetype this team needs, but I don't want to take him in the top 3. There are better players with more promise who I would take first.
He can slash off the catch or the bounce too. He is improved as a finisher. You are basically going for gratuitous characterizations and them assuming he ill never change. It's and you know it.
I think MIN is the only team that would run a 2 big man lineup after this year. MEM already abandoned theirs that only makes DET, CLE, and MIN. DET GM probably gets fired in the offseason for pushing that lineup. CLE depends on their playoff run. The best offense out of those is ranked 17th.
hopefully cody williams comes back and shows out the last last couple of games and gets his team in the tourney.
We don’t talk about Bruno
Bruno is from France, so it ain't far fetched that he probably knows a lot more about Risacher than we do
Dilly is a top 3 pick and he’s going to keep rising as we get closer to the draft. It’s also not a foregone conclusion that we’ll even pick that high if we go by lottery odds.
Regardless, since we’re painting Rob as a 6 foot bench player that plays no defense… We aren’t picking up a backup Center in Sarr with our first pick. We won’t pick a g league net negative in Buzelis I would hope. I’d also like to believe we aren’t taking Colorado’s second best player Cody Williams or Austin Reeves Lite from Kentucky with our non Raptors pick… and last but definitely not least, we are not taking Serbian Josh Giddey in the top 3
What other center did Wemby play with, Collins that stiff.
Both Wemby and Sarr have enough ball handling abilities, mobility and athleticism they aren't tradional centers. Few teams have a chance to pair players like Wemby and Sarr together and the spurs may have a chance to draft Sarr.
The more I think about it, the less I want Topic.
Not even with the Raptors pick.
First of all, anyone who mentions Topic in the same sentence as Doncic is instantly irrelevant.
It's like comparing Tony with Killian Hayes just because they're both French point guards.
While we do need playmaking, our perimeter defense and floor spacing needs are as just as bad.
Topic is a negative in both those aspects and it doesn't look like he'll ever be a positive defender.
Chances of him becoming a good shooter are not great, so what's the point of wasting a top5 pick on a defensive traffic cone that can't really shoot?
The same way NBA disregarded foreign prospects back in the day, they get overhyped now.
Just think of all the European guards that turned out to be legit NBA players and developed into good pieces for championship teams.
All of them were either obvious next big things or came over late as fully developed players.
Tony was more or less the only exception, but he was one of the quickest players in history.
Foreign* guards in recent drafts:
2022: #7 Dyson Daniels
2021: #6 Josh Giddey
2020: #7 Killian Hayes
2018: #3 Luka Doncic
2017: #8 Frank Ntilikina
2015: #5 Mario Hezonja, #7 Emmanuel Mudiay
2014: #27 Bogdan Bogdanovic (came over in 2017 at 25 years old)
2013: #17 Dennis Schroeder
*Foreign as in NBA being their first American basketball experience, I'm not counting foreign players that went to college.
You have to go all the way back to 2009 and Ricky Rubio to find another legit European point guard and he was the biggest Euro point guard prospect until Luka.
While Europeans are somewhat taking over the league, it's simply not the case for point guards.
If Topic was a great shooter, I'd take him right away, but he screams bust no matter how you look at, I can't see why would anyone take him in the lottery other than Luka hype?
It wouldn't surprise me if his injury status isn't actually legit, but they're hiding him since his draft stock went way up.
On the other hand, while it's true that Dillingham is undersized, his floor looks to be some kind of Lou Williams or Jordan Clarkson type and ceiling looks to be Maxey more or less.
Unless he's absolutely putrid on defense, you can't really go wrong with such scoring potential in today's league.
I'd maybe even take Sheppard over Dillingham.
So what if he's not going to be a superstar?
More or less guaranteed to be an elite shooter and a great defender.
Reports claim he's undersized at 6'3? Well I'd rather have great 6'3 defender that could get bullied here and there than 6'6 traffic cone. Especially when Wemby has his back.
Imo, ideal scenario would be getting the Raptors pick, draft a wing with top3 pick and get Sheppard with Raptors pick.
Last edited by LeBowen; 03-05-2024 at 11:38 AM.
Dillingham psssssh.
Been benched lately behind younger Kentucky Gs who have played better.
Dunn will sit at that table, there’s no doubt about that. Unfortunately on the other end, he’s Danny Green if Danny couldn’t and wouldn’t shoot.
I do truly believe he’s worth taking in the late teens to early 20’s though, just to see this STOCK machine wreck havoc next to Wemby
His shooting will be adequate, at least. I'm not saying he'll be a 40% guy from downtown, but I'd expect 35-36% as a floor.
I'm not saying his word is Gospel, but at least he probably saw Risacher play a lot more than any of us.
Well, under that premise I would definitely rather have Risacher than Buzelis. I'd much rather have a 6'8" forward that can help on defense and shoot 40% from 3 than yet another guy that can't shoot.
Or Risacher is the guy that will be who he is, but Buzelis will indeed improve? That sounds awfully convinient for your point of view.
Last edited by DAF86; 03-05-2024 at 11:31 AM.
Risacher's lack of athleticism worries me less because his long term position is PF. Kinda like how Kyle Anderson started as a SF and moved to PF. Risacher just needs to fill in and bulk up. If he can make it as a PF he's the perfect fit next to Wemby.
This kid is an undersized Manu. Plays with a lot of spirit and has got a lot of dawg in him. It seems he is one of the guys who are always doing something decisive on the court that will help their team. Sort of like a better shooting (but less taller) Derrick White. He will be a keeper for years for a team. I think his floor will be at worst someone like Kirk Hinrich. Thats a good pick in the mid-lottery.
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