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    With NIL and the total lack of pretense of scholastic requirements Ignite is really not necessary.

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    I hope this doesn’t have the result of pushing more kids into Overtime Elite

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    Still, what upside does Walters have? He's not an athlete, he doesn't have much size, he doesn't play very good defense, can't shoot, I don't see what anyone expects out of him.
    He was projected to be a 3D shooter and he's not living up to tgat projection so far... things change based on performance..

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    tbh this is a tough one. if topic even played reasonably well in euroleague at 18, i would have been on board with him as one of the primary targets, betting on his shooting coming around, and his size advantage allowing us to mask some of his defensive issues. without that evaluation, it almost feels irresponsible taking him. but i also have a lot of questions about sheppard's ability to play PG full time, which imo is his only path to being a starter. and if im taking somebody top 10, im banking on them being at least a starter in 1 year
    Im going Topic. Shephard has a more definite floor, but Topic has a much higher ceiling imo. I'd bet on the ceiling, but in this draft, I wouldn't criticize someone who'd rather bet on the higher floor.

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    I think things have been much better after the new year but honestly early in the year sometimes it felt like watching the spurs was like watching G-league ignite. Just a bunch of young kids thrown together with no system or structure constantly getting blown out by 30, was absolutely painful to watch sometimes. I wonder if pistons and wizards fans felt the same way. I'm open to building slowly but I'd be surprised if we don't have at least a couple of vets next year.

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    Im going Topic. Shephard has a more definite floor, but Topic has a much higher ceiling imo. I'd bet on the ceiling, but in this draft, I wouldn't criticize someone who'd rather bet on the higher floor.
    Topic pulling a Wiseman to protect his draft stock makes me wonder if he gives a enough about winning to fit in next to Victor, almost like a Wiggins / Butler situation.

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    Looks like the commissioner is making some solid choices, which is always good to see.

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    You will then be complaining about his lack of skills like shooting or passing to help Vic a bit, tbh.


    The thing is the skilled players have physical/body type limitations and the right body types have less skills.

    You can’t teach height or wingspan but you can teach the rest.

    It’s a weak draft and whoever we pick will be a long term development. I’m just playing the odds bc Cody has THE body type of modern NBA players

    I could be wrong, there’s just no other profile I fancy (I like Risacher but his slump and atheticism be doubt. He’s my 2nd choice tho)

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    Hopefully Topic plays in tomorrow's game. Not sure what time they play.

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    Taking 2 PG prospects would be the totally wrong move. There is no PG prospect available that will move the needle in the next 3 years. I am good with drafting someone that the Spurs feel can be the PG of the future, but that person likely spends next season in Austin and then is primarily 3 string PG in year 2, maybe some back up PG. It is generally accepted that PG is the most difficult position to learn in the NBA. I would draft one PG and sign your starting PG and let the draft pick learn like DJ and White did. The second pick needs to be a wing or possibly a PF. They, too, likely are back ups in year one as well, but maybe not in Austin. We are all looking to take the next step with 2 lottery picks, but I think it is much more likely the next significant needle mover is through a trade or FA signing.
    The reasons I disagree are these:

    1. The best players at the top and mid-point of the lottery are guards
    2. I don't agree that either of these players will be in Austin next year. They're not as raw as Wesley was.
    3. In position-less basketball, especially around Wembanyama, having guards doesn't matter as much. The Knicks play three guards sometimes, very well
    4. Team needs on-ball perimeter scoring and on-ball defense and these players will give them to you

    If the Toronto pick conveys, I'm not taking a PF simply because I need one. Or even a wing, because I don't think those are good players. If the best player is still a guard, then that's still a valued need and I take one if that's my best pick. It helps to not think in terms of nebulous supposedys: your PF choice is Filipowski. Your SF choice is Ron Holland. In those cases, taking Castle is not unreasonable.
    There are so many outcomes that I would be absolutely fine happening. I would prefer Topic in the 1st Rd and Tyler Kolek in the 2nd (even though it looks like he's moving up now)... but I honestly wouldn't even be upset with drafting 3 PGs. I'd also be happy drafting 2 wing players in the 1st as long as we were able to pick up Kolek in the 2nd to tide us over until our PG of the future was available.

    Our roster of the future is not going to be finished by the end of this year's draft day.This whole year was just testing to see what upgrades we needed and it turns out that it's a lot.

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    I’d like to add these 4:

    Buzelis
    Sheppard
    Dillingham
    Edey

    I’m greedy and want all 4, so we need to trade for a pick early and maybe up from 33 to get Edey.

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    I’d like to add these 4:

    Buzelis
    Sheppard
    Dillingham
    Edey

    I’m greedy and want all 4, so we need to trade for a pick early and maybe up from 33 to get Edey.
    I like each of those names. The good thing about a weak draft is that it may be easier to move up or add a pick if we wanted. Also, the good thing about having so many draft picks is that we can try out a lot of rookies and just get rid of the ones that don't pan out.

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    dont care for Edey at all

    im very high on Dillingham

    im ok with Sheppard with the raptors pick depending on where it falls and who else is still on the board

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    I get that Risacher isn't some can't miss prospect, but he's a good theoretical fit and a difficult one to find.

    If, as they most likely will be, are within' 1-2 spots of him, they shouldn't hesitate to add other draft capital (+ Johnson? Pistons with Fournier and Hornets with Bertans, both have big partial/team option expiring's and a need at forward) to get him.

    This off season should be all about targeting specifics and making sure to get them. Not the usual overly conservative routine.

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    I’m looking at Edey as a situational big that can instead of having Wemby pushed around by some of the beefier centers we put him in to do our own hatchet job on them and imagine the rim protection. I am aware he’s too slow and doesn’t shoot the 3 ball, but then again the players we’d like him to hatchet aren’t likely speedsters either and he can work on the 3 ball. No Im not exactly envisioning twin towers II this more about building a complete roster with the right mix of situational and role players.

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    I get that Risacher isn't some can't miss prospect, but he's a good theoretical fit and a difficult one to find.

    If, as they most likely will be, are within' 1-2 spots of him, they shouldn't hesitate to add other draft capital (+ Johnson? Pistons with Fournier and Hornets with Bertans, both have big partial/team option expiring's and a need at forward) to get him.

    This off season should be all about targeting specifics and making sure to get them. Not the usual overly conservative routine.
    if anything risacher's late season slump increases the odds we can land him without getting the top pick, so im ok with it

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    Word is that Williams is still playing on a bum ankle. To be honest, I couldn't tell. He seems to be moving fine. But then his production really did drop off from earlier in the season.

    My fear, along with Risacher, is that they are not actually great shooters and only went on heaters and have fallen to earth. One reason I've been focusing more on guards. But Cody can bounce back with workouts and combine, etc.
    Risacher’s samplesize is much larger, so he’s more likely to be a shooter.

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    I get that Risacher isn't some can't miss prospect, but he's a good theoretical fit and a difficult one to find.

    If, as they most likely will be, are within' 1-2 spots of him, they shouldn't hesitate to add other draft capital (+ Johnson? Pistons with Fournier and Hornets with Bertans, both have big partial/team option expiring's and a need at forward) to get him.

    This off season should be all about targeting specifics and making sure to get them. Not the usual overly conservative routine.
    This “theoretical fit” will add to an already long list of Spurs’ busts that people will complain about after he shows us for 40 games or so of being a complete nonfactor in-game. I don’t know why people are jumping just to reach that reality.

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    shooting has always been my single favorite nba trait. my favorite non-spur players have always been the great shooters. loved dirk, allen, nash in the 2000s. dirk's fallaway jumper is one of the best NBA aesthetics tbh. and my early adoration for curry is well known on this board. and while i hate to admit it because of the association with the poster formerly known as derp, i was a fan of jimmer at BYU and early in his nba career.

    so... i could talk myself into really liking a sheppard pick, and we've seen PG's without explosive footspeed be good at the nba level, especially when they are great shooters. but you are counting on sheppard being that kind of outlier for him to work out as an NBA point guard. its also just a bit unknown since kentucky didnt give him too much primary handling duty. but thats also sometimes been a blessing since you can get these buried kentucky guards at value

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    This “theoretical fit” will add to an already long list of Spurs’ busts that people will complain about after he shows us for 40 games or so of being a complete nonfactor in-game. I don’t know why people are jumping just to reach that reality.
    Maybe the idiots who don't know the game (he's not a freak athlete and is highly unlikely to be much of a counting stats type) or have an agenda to begin with because they didn't want him for whatever reason(s).

    He stands a good chance, at least relative to his draft class, of being a two-way positive impact player.

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    Sheppard and Dillingham about to play in the tourney.

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    Risacher is a 6'10" 40% 3pt shooter. Even if that's all he does, he would be useful.

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    Longhorn homer here......stay the away from any Longhorn entering this draft, they are not even G-League worthy.

    One player I find intriguing is N'Faly Dante of Oregon. He is very raw offensively, but he is a legit threat on defense. His offense is pretty much confined to the paint. He doesn't shoot 3s and he is a 60% FT shooter.

    I think he could be a solid backup to Wemby. Our D turns to when Wemby sits down. With Dante, our D would have a chance to remain solid, at least in the paint.

    I am not really worried about his lack of offense as a rookie. We should have enough players to put up some points.

    the great news is he will likely go undrafted. the bad news is, someone can swoop in and sign him before we do. I would like to make a late 2nd round trade to acquire him for a future 2nd round pick.

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    Risacher is a 6'10" 40% 3pt shooter. Even if that's all he does, he would be useful.
    not sure about his height. he was 6'9.5 in shoes at the hoops summit about a year ago. granted his 18 and could still be growing, but shoes usually add between 1-2 inches on measurements, and a lot of the draft websites say he is 6'9 and some even say like 6'8.5

    but nevertheless he has good size for the position, a quick release on catch and shoot situations (and can shoot some on the move), and is a reasonable ballhandler who can push in transition situations. he also plays defense from what all the scouting folks say. i like him for sure

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    I was disappointed in what I saw of Cody Williams. I don't care about missed shots. Some nights the ball won't fall. I do care about lack of hustle. On offense, he found a spot and just camped out, possession after possession. There was no motion or movement. It would have been nice to see some off ball movement, some screen setting or whatever. A few of his teammates were setting screens and moving around.

    For a potential top 5 pick, he leaves a lot to be desired.

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