Knecht with the TOR pick is certainly justified. He's probably going 7-14 in this draft
Raptors pick, if conveyed or even this is too much for this guy ? Smart player, with high floor and shooting, sounds like something Spurs need.
Well, Tennessee is still in, but game is outside my "office hours" to watch him.
Knecht with the TOR pick is certainly justified. He's probably going 7-14 in this draft
I keep hearing that Tyler Smith is a very safe pick, though projected more toward the middle of the first rather than the late lotto. Still, he projects to be a guy with good size who plays a position that could use some long-term talent infusion. Be it with the Raptors pick or a mid-first the team acquires through other means, I wouldn't be against bringing him in.
This is really about as far as I'd like the Spurs to follow the Rockettes' model on, tbh.
Ignoring red flags and drafting "balla" players bites you in the ass eventually (and , most of this board loathed the most "balla" player we ever drafted in DJM). The Rox's youth has been playing nicely but it's far from results I'd change my drafting philosophy on -- especially when we're far from seeing any tangible results on it.
Those "red flags" like tunnel vision, short wingspan, low IQ, etc. become exponentially more glaring during 7-game series, as the Harden era should've taught Houston.
EDIT: nm, I screwed up on that
You can get to a little less than $37 million in capspace by dumping Graham and Champagnie but only if you dump your picks too. Otherwise take another ~$10 million off say if the Spurs get #3 and the Toronto pick doesn't convey or another $16 million if say the Spurs get #3 and the Toronto pick conveys at #7. So you either have roughly $27 million or roughly $21 million in cap. Personally I'd bring Champagnie back though since it'll cost less than $2 million of capspace for him once you factor in the cap hit for empty roster spots. And this scenario would call for waiving Bassey, which would only save $1.3 million or so of capspace thanks to the cap hit for empty roster spots. So I'd keep those two and have roughly $23 million or roughly $17 million in capspace depending on whether the Toronto pick conveys.
Anyone here have strong opinions either way on Tidjane Salaun? 6'10", 18-year-old Frenchman with 7'1" wingspan. Can shoot the three.
Saw that game-winning steal and dunk he had to win a game recently, but there isn't a lot of great defensive tape on him. He plays a little bit like Michael Porter Jr.
Right now, I'm more interested in the Spurs gambling on a wing with his length and pro experience than an undersized US-collegiate guard like Dilly or Sheppard.
yeah i think you keep shampenny around. he's cheap. he has underwhelmed as a starter, should be a bench guy, is paid as such, and still could conceivably improve. contract is non guaranteed year to year. and its not like we have a plethora of wings
i wouldnt cut bassey for the cap space, id cut him for the roster spot... if they decide his injury history is just too much, simply think barlow is the better prospect (and are able to strike an agreement), or get somebody else altogether, whether it be drafting sarr or some offseason acquisition
I'd keep Bassey and hopefully trade Zollins at some point
Salaun feels like the guy you draft who is going to be in that "a year away from being a year away" category. if we werent projected to have so many future draft picks, you could afford to have a guy like that occupy the 15th roster spot or something. but we are already going to have to be churning through the roster over the next few years. cant have a spot earmarked for a guy not expected to be playing on the big league roster. esp when the opportunity cost is a lottery pick.
its already frustrating that we gave a 3 year guaranteed deal to a late 2nd rounder last year in cissoko, whose jumper right now is about as good as a sochan left handed shot. at this point id bet against cissoko actually playing out his current deal, despite the modest salary.
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On macro level I'm curious if Wright is trying to move forward in this offseason with a certain vision for the team. With so many players perceived somewhat equally in the draft there's a lot of potential outcomes and variability. Focus on shooting? Defense? Positional flexibility?
I wouldn't use a high lottery pick on Salaun. Would trade back to get him if the Spurs can't get high enough to score the guy they most want, and maybe grab him along with at least another asset. Depends how the ping pong balls land. I could see lottery teams trying to trade back or trade out because this draft is so full of potential busts and journeymen.
What do you think about Risacher?
All three, please.
But I think positional flexibility should be #1. At least I hope it is, because that affects everything else, especially re: defense and playmaking. Playing Sochan at the point was a tell, even if the experiment didn't work the first time around. Another tell is that the Spurs are #2 in the league in Assists, even in their current miserable form. Hope they keep drafting (and trading) toward that model. No more short guards or tweeners who can't defend.
I would trade Collins and Champagnie (effectively) for White. If you waive Champagnie and can use some 2nds to dump Collins you are in business cap space wise.
No way you're dumping Collins just with a couple of seconds. Teams that have $17 million of capspace to be able to absorb a trade like that can do way better than Collins with that money.
Bruno Caboclo vibes. Two years away from being two years away.
I don’t think teams view Collins as quite the negative as we do is what I was getting at. I think a team would be happy to get Collins the player and would be extra happy if SA gave them some 2nds to boot.
for what its worth (i dont pretend to be an expert, just a guy with an opinion), he's #1 on my board overall. he's about the same age as salaun but looks way more advanced. i dont think he has the superstar potential that people usually look for when selecting at the top of the draft, but we already have our megastar in the making, and risacher just complements everything well. he also flashes some really good passing and is supposed to be a capable defender. has good change of direction skills. but he's going to have to pan out as a plus defender to justify his selection.
only guy i think should be in consideration at #1 besides risacher is Sarr, and im not sold on his fit alongside wembanyama, and thats a much more important question for bigs than perimeter guys
after that i like dillingham and have warmed on castle. topic scares me. low compe ion league. didnt get the chance to prove himself by playing against euroleague compe ion which would have been a much better barometer. his outside shot is poor, though he is an excellent free throw shooter, so maybe signs of life there. defensively he's not good, but he has solid size and reportedly a very long wingspan, so he could learn to get better there.
You think a team is going to give up $17 million in capspace for scrub Collins? Do you think Collins is better than an MLE player? I don't see it. Toronto would probably rather pick up their team option on Bruce Brown so that takes them out of it. Utah wouldn't have much use for Collins when they have Walker Kessler and Tyler Hendricks in the backup big roles. Philly is going big game hunting and won't settle for Collins with their capspace. Moritz Wagner is better so don't see Orlando interested. Leaving OKC, Detroit, and Charlotte as the only reasonable destinations to salary dump Collins. Maybe add Indiana if Siakam walks. Though they'd have to value Collins a lot more than MLE players.
Golden State? 3 team trade where GS gets some size, sends someone to one of the other teams that doesnt need Collins, Spurs get cap space. I think when Collins was playing well (SA giving him that contract) he was definitely an MLE player or more. Not a great season, value is not good, but I dont think hes some toxic troll no teams would want is the point.
He's not, Collins Hatred is just the latest obsession of the Big Brains of SpursTalk.
lol commenting on the "big brains of ST" when you were 100% certain this team would be competing for a play in spot
He definitely gets overlooked, by myself included. He's shooting the 3 in the high 30s which is great. FT looks to be in the 70s, which is more average. I suppose if they don't get TOR pick and want to move up it could be done. The team definitely needs shooting. Not sure about his on ball creation. He's from Texas, which is possibly a good thing if he's close to home.
Tyler Smith is a curious study. Skipped 2 yrs of high school to go pro. He could be in the Rashard Lewis mold if he reaches his potential, or, like most, a bust.
Anyone have strong opinions on Smith?
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