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    Edey is likely going to be the ROTY. Plays intense with a chip on his shoulder. Problem is, the Rockets may pick him first. They already own Wemby with Sengun's and Brooks' bulk and bully ball. Edey will only improve on their dominance for the next few years.
    I thought he was more in conversation outside of the top 20.. i mean it is pretty obvious he'll never be a 15ppg+ player

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    Why do people want Castle at point? Even if he can shoot the 3, he's still not a pull up threat, can't bend the defense and we'd have to settle for outside shots. We need somebody who can get in the lane and get the other guys easy buckets. Our team is as bad on offense as it is on defense.
    people suddenly love him more than every because of his 30 attempts with no defense at the combine

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    I'd love for the Rockets to waste their #3 pick on a center, since these are the easiest players to obtain in free agency and Sengun will never be able to play the 4 without a 3-point shot

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    Serious question: just saw that Dillingham is with Klutch - does that impact the Spurs consideration of him at all?

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    Because people are enamored with the defensive potential. Problem is they forget how offensively inept our team is

    Id much rather take a chance on a high ceiling offensive player. We need scoring desperately on this team
    Exactly. I mean nobody wants a traffic cone but the Spurs desperately need scoring and play making. This is the way the league is now. Wemby it's going to be able to help cover some flaws defensively. You have to have guys that can score when it matters. Can't wind up being a one-man show like Minnesota.

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    people suddenly love him more than every because of his 30 attempts with no defense at the combine
    with enough practice he can become Steph Curry

    Serious question: just saw that Dillingham is with Klutch - does that impact the Spurs consideration of him at all?
    Keldon is also with clutch. I don't think there is a problem with them. They handled the Morris fiasco as professional as they could back in the day.

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    people suddenly love him more than every because of his 30 attempts with no defense at the combine
    It's an overreact, sure, but him measuring at 6'5.5" without shoes isn't a small detail, that's wing size so if he doesn't pan out as a full time PG at least he has a pretty safe place as a high end role player at the wing. I want Dillingham for PG, but getting Castle alongside him (or another shooter) is more palatable to me now that it was before.

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    Serious question: just saw that Dillingham is with Klutch - does that impact the Spurs consideration of him at all?
    Zero impact.

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    It's an overreact, sure, but him measuring at 6'5.5" without shoes isn't a small detail, that's wing size so if he doesn't pan out as a full time PG at least he has a pretty safe place as a high end role player at the wing. I want Dillingham for PG, but getting Castle alongside him (or another shooter) is more palatable to me now that it was before.
    ive been warm on castle for a while, so its not like i dislike him as a prospect. i think he'd be a solid outcome at 8. if we would up with him and dillingham, or him and sheppard, i'd be pretty happy.

    to be fair, even though i like dillingham more, if they're both there at 4, i think theres a better chance of dillingham falling all the way to 8 than castle.

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    What an awful scenario if Castle goes 2 and Reed goes 3. Lawd help us.
    By god, that's Risacher's music.


    Why do people want Castle at point? Even if he can shoot the 3, he's still not a pull up threat, can't bend the defense and we'd have to settle for outside shots. We need somebody who can get in the lane and get the other guys easy buckets. Our team is as bad on offense as it is on defense.
    Because they seem to think they're going to build the next core of a dynasty in one draft, are scared off of small guards and believe the Spurs have magic pixie dust and will sprinkle some and turn non shooters into good enough ones to be respected.

    This team is worse offensively than defensively and will always be minimally above average at the latter with Wembanyama on the floor.

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    If I had to pick one draft prospect in the last 3-4 years who would have a the best chance of developing into an SGA-stopper or at least neutralizer while still being able to play big playoff-caliber minutes, it'd probably be one of the Thompson twins. But after those two, your best bet is probably Castle or maybe Dyson Daniels. More size than Cason Wallace and Suggs, stronger than Anthony Black, better at the POA than Devin Vassell, better at defending guards than Eason/Sochan/Jabari Smith.

    Just like Sochan may be uniquely valuable on wing creators like Barnes and Luka because of his combination of speed and strength, Castle may be equally valuable on guys like SGA and maybe Ant. It's a small point, but as these are next-gen superstars who will be competing directly with the Spurs for the next 7-10 years, it may be helpful to start looking early. OKC would have no issue spending a high draft pick on a guy who could match up well with Wemby if given the opportunity.

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    If I had to pick one draft prospect in the last 3-4 years who would have a the best chance of developing into an SGA-stopper or at least neutralizer while still being able to play big playoff-caliber minutes, it'd probably be one of the Thompson twins. But after those two, your best bet is probably Castle or maybe Dyson Daniels. More size than Cason Wallace and Suggs, stronger than Anthony Black, better at the POA than Devin Vassell, better at defending guards than Eason/Sochan/Jabari Smith.

    Just like Sochan may be uniquely valuable on wing creators like Barnes and Luka because of his combination of speed and strength, Castle may be equally valuable on guys like SGA and maybe Ant. It's a small point, but as these are next-gen superstars who will be competing directly with the Spurs for the next 7-10 years, it may be helpful to start looking early. OKC would have no issue spending a high draft pick on a guy who could match up well with Wemby if given the opportunity.
    Sochan and Castle can't play together, the former probably is entrenched and Jones might be too.

    The playoffs are more so about not having a liability defender (unless they offset it by being a superstar or star offensively) than having so called perimeter stoppers.

    Despite the hype, bigs still and will always have by far the biggest impact defensively and the Spurs again lucked into having the best in the business.

    I don't want a small guard as much as the next person, but talent is the biggest need and they're not in a position to pass it up.

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    If I had to pick one draft prospect in the last 3-4 years who would have a the best chance of developing into an SGA-stopper or at least neutralizer while still being able to play big playoff-caliber minutes, it'd probably be one of the Thompson twins. But after those two, your best bet is probably Castle or maybe Dyson Daniels. More size than Cason Wallace and Suggs, stronger than Anthony Black, better at the POA than Devin Vassell, better at defending guards than Eason/Sochan/Jabari Smith.

    Just like Sochan may be uniquely valuable on wing creators like Barnes and Luka because of his combination of speed and strength, Castle may be equally valuable on guys like SGA and maybe Ant. It's a small point, but as these are next-gen superstars who will be competing directly with the Spurs for the next 7-10 years, it may be helpful to start looking early. OKC would have no issue spending a high draft pick on a guy who could match up well with Wemby if given the opportunity.
    Smart take. The Spurs are building around Wemby, period. That doesn't mean the number 2 has to be a ball dominant PG. Neither BOS or MIN (a potential finals match-up) features a ball dominant PG for example.

    Castle offers the defensive upside that you describe, with the potential connective tissue on the offensives side that would all him to fit well with the current engines of the Spurs offense: Wemby and Vassell.

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    It's an overreact, sure, but him measuring at 6'5.5" without shoes isn't a small detail, that's wing size so if he doesn't pan out as a full time PG at least he has a pretty safe place as a high end role player at the wing. I want Dillingham for PG, but getting Castle alongside him (or another shooter) is more palatable to me now that it was before.


    Yeah his height wingspan standing reach and weight are basically the exact same size as Isaac Okoro during his draft year (3 point shooting volume and percentages too!). I'm of similar mind to you, except I'd prefer a Sheppard/Castle combination as Castle definitely has outs to be a decent wing as his floor.

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    Sochan and Castle can't play together, the former probably is entrenched and Jones might be too.

    The playoffs are more so about not having a liability defender (unless they offset it by being a superstar or star offensively) than having so called perimeter stoppers.

    Despite the hype, bigs still and will always have by far the biggest impact defensively and the Spurs again lucked into having the best in the business.

    I don't want a small guard as much as the next person, but talent is the biggest need and they're not in a position to pass it up.
    Nah. In the shortrun, it will depend on whether they get shooting from the other forward position (e.g., a vet like Batum).

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    Serious question: just saw that Dillingham is with Klutch - does that impact the Spurs consideration of him at all?
    As far as I know, Klutch and the Spurs are basically good. One thing -- Dillingham is kind of an influencer type who is into fashion and has a pretty good internet following. Not a bad thing, but with Sochan and Wembanyama being big personalities, it would be a new day.

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    Smart take. The Spurs are building around Wemby, period. That doesn't mean the number 2 has to be a ball dominant PG. Neither BOS or MIN (a potential finals match-up) features a ball dominant PG for example.

    Castle offers the defensive upside that you describe, with the potential connective tissue on the offensives side that would all him to fit well with the current engines of the Spurs offense: Wemby and Vassell.
    The same Celtics who annually underwhelm in the playoffs because they lack elite play making (and in an related note, an MVP caliber player)?

    The Bucks, who've annually done the same (even when they won, when the path cleared) for the same reason and the Clippers too (S bag's unwillingness to play at less than pristine health aside).

    Nah. In the shortrun, it will depend on whether they get shooting from the other forward position (e.g., a vet like Batum).
    Not enough. It's much easier to get away with a defensive liability in the playoffs (again, provided they offset it offensively) than an offensive one.

    Even the likes of Okoro and Giddey, who've improved, still get played off the floor because defenses disregard them, their teams play 4 on 5 and it's too much to overcome.

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    By god, that's Risacher's music.




    Because they seem to think they're going to build the next core of a dynasty in one draft, are scared off of small guards and believe the Spurs have magic pixie dust and will sprinkle some and turn non shooters into good enough ones to be respected.

    This team is worse offensively than defensively and will always be minimally above average at the latter with Wembanyama on the floor.
    Honestly, I think everyone’s going to be happy no matter what the Spurs do because we have two picks in this draft.

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    At this point, adding guys whose biggest question mark is shooting is dicey IMO. Playmaking and shooting are just so clearly the biggest needs at this point. Someone in here mentioned that it’s lazy analysis to just say “we have Victor so we can hide any bad defenders”, and while I’m not necessarily disagreeing, we saw the Spurs defense look plenty respectable down the stretch with Victor anchoring at center. I just don’t think think adding a “perimeter stopper” is anywhere near as important as adding guys who can shoot 40% from 3 and/or break down opposing defenses and create offense.

    That’s not to say someone like a Castle should be off the table…but I’m just a little weary of any pick where the justification is “Well if we can turn him into a solid shooter it’ll be great!”. I’m not trying to add more guys who are going to look clueless out there when asked to create and/or going to shoot 30% from 3 even when defenses are double teaming Wemby over and over.

    That being said, that’s the beauty of having two picks in the top 10. As long as we get one guy who will somewhat confidently project to be a solid offensive player, then choosing more of an “offensive project” type guy with the other pick is fine.

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    Holland and Dillingham are the combo I’d like to see. Holland is good on defense and can create his own shot on offense. He has good free throw numbers so maybe his shot will improve. Dillingham is the type of scoring threat we need to have on the perimeter to open things up for Wemby.

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    If I had to pick one draft prospect in the last 3-4 years who would have a the best chance of developing into an SGA-stopper or at least neutralizer while still being able to play big playoff-caliber minutes, it'd probably be one of the Thompson twins. But after those two, your best bet is probably Castle or maybe Dyson Daniels. More size than Cason Wallace and Suggs, stronger than Anthony Black, better at the POA than Devin Vassell, better at defending guards than Eason/Sochan/Jabari Smith.

    Just like Sochan may be uniquely valuable on wing creators like Barnes and Luka because of his combination of speed and strength, Castle may be equally valuable on guys like SGA and maybe Ant. It's a small point, but as these are next-gen superstars who will be competing directly with the Spurs for the next 7-10 years, it may be helpful to start looking early. OKC would have no issue spending a high draft pick on a guy who could match up well with Wemby if given the opportunity.
    here's what happened when the Thompson twins tried to "stop" Dillingham



    if a coach tells 2 supposedly great defensive prospects "Why the can't we stop Rob Dillingham" that should tell you something

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    people suddenly love him more than every because of his 30 attempts with no defense at the combine
    With a slow, elongated release, no less. He's not getting that shot off regularly in the NBA shooting that slowly. There's a reason he shot poorly from 3 this season tbh.

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    One of the big winners of the combine might be Pelle Larsson. If teams believe he can also play some point, he might be picked much higher than the mocks see him. He will definitely be in a similar conversation like some other Seniors are, say for example Tyler Kolek.
    Larsson is far more athletic than people thought (at least than I thought), he has very good height for a SG at 6-5.25 and a strong built at 210lbs. Very good shooter and can handle the ball. Teams might see an even bigger Austin Reaves in him. Definitely an option at #35.

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    One of the big winners of the combine might be Pelle Larsson. If teams believe he can also play some point, he might be picked much higher than the mocks see him. He will definitely be in a similar conversation like some other Seniors are, say for example Tyler Kolek.
    Larsson is far more athletic than people thought (at least than I thought), he has very good height for a SG at 6-5.25 and a strong built at 210lbs. Very good shooter and can handle the ball. Teams might see an even bigger Austin Reaves in him. Definitely an option at #35.
    Agreed. I've currently got him as a late 1st. He would be an excellent depth piece with some untapped upside.

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    Holland and Dillingham are the combo I’d like to see. Holland is good on defense and can create his own shot on offense. He has good free throw numbers so maybe his shot will improve. Dillingham is the type of scoring threat we need to have on the perimeter to open things up for Wemby.
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