Ok, some Dillingham size comps:
Notes:
- Data taken from combine when available, other sources when not
- height is without shoes and weight is at the time of combine when available, current when not
- height in yellow means an inch or less from Dillingham's (above or under), red means more than an inch below, green means more than an inch above
- wingspan in yellow means an inch or less from Dillingham's (above or under), red means more than an inch below, green means more than an inch above
- weight in yellow means 15 pounds or less from Dillingham's (above or under), green means more than 15 pounds above
- players names in yellow means comparatively close (especially height and wingspan), red means smaller, green means bigger
There's a bunch of players of comparable size to Dillingham (Chris Paul, Trae Young, Garland, Brunson, Kyrie, Tyus Jones, etc) assuming he's able to put some muscle on those bones, which I'm not so sure of. Still small and weak, on top of his awful defensive struggles, but measures could have been worse TBH.
It's wild. In this draft, we have:This is thread is getting out of control
Dillingham = Better than Trae Young and Tony Parker
Sheppard = John Stockton with a 42" vert and Steph's shooting ability
Yet there is no consensus #1 and this draft sucks.
What a world.
I didn't think there were worse outcomes than Topic/Salaun.
I was wrong.
I mean, when you look at Reeds shooting splits its hard not to say he shoots like Steph
Lol his freshman stats? Really? Not the 21 points, 7 assists 3 steals as conference player of the year the year he entered the draft. He'd have been picked higher but Gonzaga wasn't a power yet.
Man, I keep hearing them compared to hall of famers. Favorably so. This draft is AMAZING.
Tim Duncan as a freshman = 10 ppg, 10 rpg
Kyle Filipowski as a freshman = 15 ppg, 9 rpg
Kyle Filipowsky > Tim Duncan!!!! Let's take him at 4 if he lasts that long!
, that dude has a long neck. That has to add at least three inches to his height.
He likely be there at 8 and I've often wondered if he'd be worth picking at that spot.
It has never crossed my mind that he's worth picking there, but I have to confess I shudder at the notion it's exactly what the FO is going to do.
Bruh I had it with our guys not making shots. Reed knocks down 52% from 3pt. I’m sure that goes down. But he’s also 85% in FT and 55% in FG. Either Reed or Risacher at 4, then draft the other position at 8.
Salaun also intrigues me 6’10 and 212 lbs and only 18 yrs old. This kid is already built
Yeah, this injury was kind of bad for us Topic haters because Wizards would've surely picked him at #2 if he was healthy.
High risk, low ceiling pick. If he doesn't live up to the expectations, he's useless and out of the league as a point guard that can't shoot or defend.
If he develops well, he's still a borderline all-star riding Wemby's coattails, best case scenario.
Dillingham can also be out of the league due to his size, but if he just averages out, he can be a solid scorer of the bench.
Best case scenario is one of the best scorers in the league.
Sheppard's worst case scenario is Patty Mills and best case is one of the best shooters in the league with positive defense.
Castle should also be useful because of his defense even if he doesn't develop a shot.
it's too high for him, that's for sure but he won't be around in the 2nd. i guess i could see them trading back a few spots for him though.
If I was Charlotte or Portland I would leak out I would draft Topic for the Spurs to take him at 4.
Leaves other players who they really are targeting.
The shooting will translate, though probably not at 55%. Not sure about the steals with that 6’3” wingspan.okay somebody put here the wrong stats
Still he averages 2.5 steals and .7 block, effing 52% from 3pt.
Spurs offense is not really heavy PG, more like connector passes which Reed is. But Vassell/Sochan need to step-up on defense especially the point-of-attack where Castle/Holland would be ideal.
Those proposals are trash. But I have wondered about trading down, from either 4 or 8, to get a 2/3 guys from Devin Carter, Jared McCain and Jaylon Tyson. Another guy that peaks my interest is Ajay Mitc .
Reportedly, Anthony Edwards has grown 2" since his freshman year in college, which is yet another chaotic factor with regards to drafting 19 year olds...
If Reed Sheppard adds 2" in the next couple of years, all of those questions about size are moot. If Nikola Topic adds 2", he'd be a giant combo guard.
Isiah Thomas was a very good defender. He was definitely thicker than Dillingham (but then again so is my thigh). Both were clutch players that would/will take the shot at the end of the game. I don't think Dilly has the ceiling Thomas did however.
Re: comparing Sheppard to Kerr...
I was only talking about his offensive role, especially with his near-perfect shot selection. Defensively, he's very hard to compare because his man defense is but he's great at picking his moments to help. He's at least got one of the highest BBIQ's in this draft, which is a good sign for him finding a way to translate his game at the NBA level.
Ok, some Dillingham size comps:
Notes:
- Data taken from combine when available, other sources when not
- height is without shoes and weight is at the time of combine when available, current when not
- height in yellow means an inch or less from Dillingham's (above or under), red means more than an inch below, green means more than an inch above
- wingspan in yellow means an inch or less from Dillingham's (above or under), red means more than an inch below, green means more than an inch above
- weight in yellow means 15 pounds or less from Dillingham's (above or under), green means more than 15 pounds above
- players names in yellow means comparatively close (especially height and wingspan), red means smaller, green means bigger
There's a bunch of players of comparable size to Dillingham (Chris Paul, Trae Young, Garland, Brunson, Kyrie, Tyus Jones, etc) assuming he's able to put some muscle on those bones, which I'm not so sure of. Still small and weak, on top of his awful defensive struggles, but measures could have been worse TBH.
appreciate this. Eases my mind actually with picking dillongham if he’s there.
Growth plates flashbacks... ahh... fun times
Growth plates flashbacks... ahh... fun times
Still a little scary that this is a chart of the smallest guys in the league, and the vast major of them outweigh Dilly by 10 lbs or more.Ok, some Dillingham size comps:
Notes:
- Data taken from combine when available, other sources when not
- height is without shoes and weight is at the time of combine when available, current when not
- height in yellow means an inch or less from Dillingham's (above or under), red means more than an inch below, green means more than an inch above
- wingspan in yellow means an inch or less from Dillingham's (above or under), red means more than an inch below, green means more than an inch above
- weight in yellow means 15 pounds or less from Dillingham's (above or under), green means more than 15 pounds above
- players names in yellow means comparatively close (especially height and wingspan), red means smaller, green means bigger
There's a bunch of players of comparable size to Dillingham (Chris Paul, Trae Young, Garland, Brunson, Kyrie, Tyus Jones, etc) assuming he's able to put some muscle on those bones, which I'm not so sure of. Still small and weak, on top of his awful defensive struggles, but measures could have been worse TBH.
I think I calculated that 22% of the league is 6'3" and under.
As far as weight goes, all of these players are multi-year vets. Every player puts on weight as they age.
Dillingham is as small and sleight as Stephen Curry.
And just like 2009 way too many teams are overthinking this. Absolutely not saying he's as good as Curry. Of course not. But you take the best player and then figure it out.
That's the entire problem. We don't know if he's the best player because we don't know if his scoring can't translate to the NBA.
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