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    I'd flip Sarr and Holland(based on talent), but other than that it looks good to me..
    This of course is just my opinion, but I don't see it with Sarr. To me, he's about equal as a prospect as Duren or Lively.

    With that said, I have Sarr in T2 largely because this is a Spurs board, where I have no use or interest in a C (and I don't think Sarr can be 4, regardless of whether he'd be better at it than Sochan).

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    This of course is just my opinion, but I don't see it with Sarr. To me, he's about equal as a prospect as Duren or Lively.

    With that said, I have Sarr in T2 largely because this is a Spurs board, where I have no use or interest in a C (and I don't think Sarr can be 4, regardless of whether he'd be better at it than Sochan).
    It's all just opinion. For me Holland is the one guy with shooting issues in the top 10 that I am most skeptical of being able to actually learn to shoot well. I think Castle, Topic, and Buzelis have a much better chance of being above average shooters.

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    It's all just opinion. For me Holland is the one guy with shooting issues in the top 10 that I am most skeptical of being able to actually learn to shoot well. I think Castle, Topic, and Buzelis have a much better chance of being above average shooters.
    Holland is a big risk for sure, but I don't need him to develop into a shooter as much as Risacher (or Buzelis) for him to reach his upper quartile of outcomes. I like Holland (and Buzelis) because they are the most multi-dimensional wings in my opinion. Holland is definitely a different archetype than Risacher, Buzelis and Williams though.

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    The pick & rolls that wemby/Tre would do where Tre sets the screen and rolls to the basket and Wemby facilitates would be nice with Castle if he’s willing to play off the ball lol

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    BKN turned down 3 FRPs last summer for Bridges, but they’re going to trade for just the #3 pick in a crap draft? Don’t think so.
    they reportedly turnend down the offer because of pick protections. and yes, a #3 pick in a allegedly crap draft is still valued higher than some 20ies in any other draft. If you read, I wrote they could offer Green plus the pick. Rockets already had offered Green for Bridges at the deadline, Nets refused. That was before Green had had the best stretch of his career in March. So yes, Nets would think about such an offer, crap draft or not. And Rockets definitely want Bridges. Understandably, he makes a lot of sense for them.

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    they reportedly turnend down the offer because of pick protections. and yes, a #3 pick in a allegedly crap draft is still valued higher than some 20ies in any other draft. If you read, I wrote they could offer Green plus the pick. Rockets already had offered Green for Bridges at the deadline, Nets refused. That was before Green had had the best stretch of his career in March. So yes, Nets would think about such an offer, crap draft or not. And Rockets definitely want Bridges. Understandably, he makes a lot of sense for them.
    Green is a ding dong, even if Ime cleaned up his game a bit. Same with DLo. Don’t think teams will totally change their outlook on a player because of one good month.

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    Marginal players often turn out at the end of the season when pressures are gone and no one is paying attention to them. Green is gonna green again.

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    Is it clear he thinks he can immediately start for the Spurs?

    Or do you think he can immediately start at point guard for the Spurs?
    Assuming the story is true, i don’t know what teams he has on his list

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    Green is a ding dong, even if Ime cleaned up his game a bit. Same with DLo. Don’t think teams will totally change their outlook on a player because of one good month.
    You were saying this about Anthony Edwards not too long ago

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    32 points, 11-14 from the field, 4/7 threes, 6/6 free throws, 5 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks.

    Who was this? Reed Sheppard dominating Mississippi State and hitting the game winner. After this game, KOC shot him to the top of his board.

    Thing is, you expect dominant games from players rated for the top of a draft. They're supposed to do this.

    Dalton Knecht had eight games scoring 30 points or more. Many others 20 points or more. Dillingham dropped 35 on a good defensive team in Tennessee.

    It's a great showing for Risacher, who has been fairly unimpressive for a while. He's still a guy who doesn't rebound much, has a negative assist/turnover ratio, his shooting percentage has been trending down, and his defensive metrics are actually pretty poor.

    I do think the Spurs will take him at 4, but one game shouldn't overly change opinions. It's just more information. Good information, showing flashes, but this is a guy who probably has a lower ceiling than we'd like.
    Let me guess. When Spurs were champions, you watched all the boxscores without ever watching the matches. You were the first to say that Parker was a bad PG because of his metrics and ultimately, you pushed for Manu to be traded because he was a pit of turnovers?

    Some have just explained to you why Risacher was more aggressive and that his metrics were therefore more to his advantage. You may have to think about stopping judging statistics as performances. Otherwise, you might as well draft the best scorer in the Chinese third division with his 38 points per game. Wow. Enter the Metrix.

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    4th pick - Castle
    8th pick - Salaun

    After this coming season when Blake Wesley contract expires, he will not be resigned by the Spurs. Sochan will eventually be a 6th man for the Spurs and KJ, I hate to say will eventually most likely get traded.

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    Let me guess. When Spurs were champions, you watched all the boxscores without ever watching the matches. You were the first to say that Parker was a bad PG because of his metrics and ultimately, you pushed for Manu to be traded because he was a pit of turnovers?

    Some have just explained to you why Risacher was more aggressive and that his metrics were therefore more to his advantage. You may have to think about stopping judging statistics as performances. Otherwise, you might as well draft the best scorer in the Chinese third division with his 38 points per game. Wow. Enter the Metrix.
    The are you talking about.

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    If available at 4, I think Spurs have to take Risacher all things considered (profile, age, fit) and that would give you a lot more flexibility to take BPA available at 8.
    With that said, I don't think Risacher goes past top 2/3, if Atlanta takes Sarr he goes to Washington or Houston at the latest, but he might even go no. 1 with Sarr going no. 2 to Washington. Since it's pretty likely Sarr and Risacher go top 2 in whatever order, Spurs shouldn't count on either being available at 4 TBH. I would NOT package 4+8 to jump up and get him, I like him but Spurs have multiple needs and he doesn't look like a franchise changing talent. So you'd have 2 options:

    • Take Buzelis/Castle at 4 and Dillingham/Sheppard at 8
    • Offer Portland 4 for 7 + 14, and you end up with 7 + 8 + 14. Assuming 4-6 (would be Portland, Detroit, Charlotte) go wings, you can probably still get your pick of Dillingham/Sheppard, take a gamble on Holland/Cody Williams (maybe even Castle if reports are true), and use 14 on whomever you like the most there (Devin Carter, Jared McCain, or even go wild and take Salaun or Edey).

    Lots of options, and it isn't really clear which one is better. Letting chips fall where they may could end end up paying the most dividends, TBH.

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    Risacher has been #1 on my board virtually all along. Thought the gap narrowed a lot during that prolonged slump but he’s showing pretty regularly these days why he has consistently been a top 2 prospect in this draft. This last game shouldn’t be the reason you suddenly like him again.

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    I may or may not be reading too much into this, but you could see a visible look of disappointment in Brian Wright’s face when the Spurs landed at pick #4 after having already been announced to have jumped into the top 4.

    This could suggest that his target all along was widely mocked to be in the top 3.

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    [Sidery]There are whispers of Stephon Castle and his camp potentially not being willing to do pre-draft workouts for teams with starting point guards already in place.
    https://swarmandsting.com/posts/step...t-no-6-overall
    I feel my true position his point guard, and I feel the last few months I had to sacrifice for the betterment of the team,” Castle said.

    “I feel like I have a pretty underrated skillset in that way,” Castle said. “I feel like I demonstrated that a lot more in high school, because I was on the ball a lot more. Yeah, I feel like I can see the court pretty well and get guys shots right in the pocket. So, I feel like that’s a trait a point guard needs to have in this league. It’s one I think I have.”

    “They have a star point guard in Ja Morant,” Castle said of his potential fit with the Grizzlies at No. 9 overall. “I feel like I can fit onto any kind of team. I feel like my game is pretty flexible. I feel like I can play with any kinds of guys in any kind of way. But I also feel like I made that sacrifice in college. Now, we’re talking about my career, and that’s something I take pride in. Now, I really want to play the one. So, that’s just something to think about.”

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    I may or may not be reading too much into this, but you could see a visible look of disappointment in Brian Wright’s face when the Spurs landed at pick #4 after having already been announced to have jumped into the top 4.

    This could suggest that his target all along was widely mocked to be in the top 3.
    I absolutely 100% agree with this, this is the first thought that crossed my mind after seeing Wright's face when the Spurs came up at 4.

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    Assuming the story is true, i don’t know what teams he has on his list
    That's unclear.

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    I absolutely 100% agree with this, this is the first thought that crossed my mind after seeing Wright's face when the Spurs came up at 4.
    He must have thought this was the 2025 draft.

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    Thinking about Holland at 8…

    He may never shoot well enough to be the star he was initially billed as, but he can really attack the rim, can handle it a bit, can pass a bit and has potential to be a great defender. If he just improves a little bit as a shooter so teams must honor him, isn’t that a pretty damn good player?

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    I may or may not be reading too much into this, but you could see a visible look of disappointment in Brian Wright’s face when the Spurs landed at pick #4 after having already been announced to have jumped into the top 4.

    This could suggest that his target all along was widely mocked to be in the top 3.
    I noticed that too, and concur.
    I wonder though if it was disappointment at the pick number more than Houston having a higher pick? Harder to rebuild when division rivals get better picks.

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    I may or may not be reading too much into this, but you could see a visible look of disappointment in Brian Wright’s face when the Spurs landed at pick #4 after having already been announced to have jumped into the top 4.

    This could suggest that his target all along was widely mocked to be in the top 3.
    I think that’s just his face

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    Thinking about Holland at 8…

    He may never shoot well enough to be the star he was initially billed as, but he can really attack the rim, can handle it a bit, can pass a bit and has potential to be a great defender. If he just improves a little bit as a shooter so teams must honor him, isn’t that a pretty damn good player?
    i don't see that as being any better than any of the guys you can sign in free agency for the mid level exception tbh...

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    I’d love to see a Castle vs Dillingham pre-draft workout against each other lol it’s been mentioned already, but the spurs do need to be adding winners to the team

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    i don't see that as being any better than any of the guys you can sign in free agency for the mid level exception tbh...
    Even if that’s the case, that would be fairly good surplus value on a rookie wage scale at pick 8, no?

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