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    Interesting notes on the workout tracker:

    1. Dillon Jones and Payton Sandfort are working out for everyone it seems
    2. Blazers bringing in lots of bigs for workouts
    3. Pels brought in Tyler Smith for a workout. I like that fit, and NO picks in the right range. Hate it as a Spurs fan. When does NO have to make a decision on the Lakers pick? Wonder if they could fall in love with someone like Smith and decide to take it this year.
    4. Spurs mostly bringing in unrated prospects. In the past, hasn't in been the case that the Spurs use workouts as scouting for 2-way and G-League talent?
    On a couple of these points:

    2. The Blazers workouts are interesting as they post interviews and with some in-scrimmage highlights (and also obviously because of where they are drafting), on YouTube and X. Ware and Smith played not only against each other in the work out but on the same team at times it seemed. Definitely worth keeping tabs on them.

    4. I went over the last couple of years of HoopsHype workout trackers and interestingly enough both Jeremy Sochan and Malaki Branham were not listed but Blake Wesley was.
    (I remember he blabbed on a podcast that the Spurs really liked him there in a group workout).

    And in the dreaded 2021 draft, Josh Primo's name was missing too.

    Might be useful to keep an eye on what type of players the Spurs don't workout over this time that: A) are consensus lottery talents, B) fit team needs and C) intel that Timvp receives as he updates his Big Boards.

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    Yeah, he’s not falling to 4th

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    Yall thankful for that win over Denver now

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    Yeah, he’s not falling to 4th
    Never was tbh. WAS is taking him at 2.

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    Never was tbh. WAS is taking him at 2.
    For this the basketball gods did smile on us and gave us two lottery picks.

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    Serious question: if the schedules for the NCAA tournament and the French league playoffs had been switched—that is, if Castle and Clingan had been the ones balling out for UConn instead of Risacher this time of year—would their projections in mock drafts and big boards also be switched?

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    Serious question: if the schedules for the NCAA tournament and the French league playoffs had been switched—that is, if Castle and Clingan had been the ones balling out for UConn instead of Risacher this time of year—would their projections in mock drafts and big boards also be switched?
    They wouldn't, first because (real) scouts don't give the Tournament that much importance and don't react to the moment, off a few games. The also know anyway the level of play is really different. Bourg or Monaco would pulverize any team in College, which is honestly hard to watch, messy BB between teens learning how to play ball and won't turn pro for the majority. There's no comparison.

    They'll take those good Risacher playoffs performance within the globality of his season, and potentially as a little coming out party for Zach who's raising his potential and celing here. he's shown some conffidence, aggressiveness and comfort against one of the best team in Europe (and outside America) that gives you some hope he could be more than a solid role player. time will tell.
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    I always believed Zach was spurs' guy, but he's going top 2, and even #1 imo. He might be the only real prospect of this draft with (borderline) star potential, and a real difference maker anyway, reason why I'd give 4 and 8 + SRPs to get him, which I'm not even sure would do it.

    I don't believe there's other players worth not giving that trade a try. specially if spurs are actually eaying 2025 to find key pieces, which would make adding two future bench guys this year counterproductive.

    I could live next season with

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    On a couple of these points:

    2. The Blazers workouts are interesting as they post interviews and with some in-scrimmage highlights (and also obviously because of where they are drafting), on YouTube and X. Ware and Smith played not only against each other in the work out but on the same team at times it seemed. Definitely worth keeping tabs on them.

    4. I went over the last couple of years of HoopsHype workout trackers and interestingly enough both Jeremy Sochan and Malaki Branham were not listed but Blake Wesley was.
    (I remember he blabbed on a podcast that the Spurs really liked him there in a group workout).

    And in the dreaded 2021 draft, Josh Primo's name was missing too.

    Might be useful to keep an eye on what type of players the Spurs don't workout over this time that: A) are consensus lottery talents, B) fit team needs and C) intel that Timvp receives as he updates his Big Boards.
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    Yall thankful for that win over Denver now
    Considering Portland finished 4th and drew 7th, and we finished 5th and drew 4th, I’m loving that win about now. Also still loving losing the coin flip to Houston last year.

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    Serious question: if the schedules for the NCAA tournament and the French league playoffs had been switched—that is, if Castle and Clingan had been the ones balling out for UConn instead of Risacher this time of year—would their projections in mock drafts and big boards also be switched?
    I'm not sure.

    ZR played A LOT more games against A LOT tougher oppositions. His slump happened after he already played +40 games for ex

    It could have influenced fans perception but not professional scouts who would have put things in perspective imo

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    Kind of funny, because I don't think Risacher would be very good in the UConn offense. Think I'm crazy? I'm not. He can't dribble in traffic, like at all. He can barely dribble against a single defender, and his passing and reads are pretty poor. Yeah, he'd be getting every single shot off he wants, but that's not what made their offense lethal. The best he could do was line up behind the three and wait for kick-outs.

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    Kind of funny, because I don't think Risacher would be very good in the UConn offense. Think I'm crazy? I'm not. He can't dribble in traffic, like at all. He can barely dribble against a single defender, and his passing and reads are pretty poor. Yeah, he'd be getting every single shot off he wants, but that's not what made their offense lethal. The best he could do was line up behind the three and wait for kick-outs.
    Why is there this misconception that Risacher can't put the ball on the floor? He will never be a main creator, but as an off-ball player that attacks out of spot-ups he's more than fine.

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    Why is there this misconception that Risacher can't put the ball on the floor? He will never be a main creator, but as an off-ball player that attacks out of spot-ups he's more than fine.
    Because he's really bad for his level with the ball. Have you watched him? Honestly he's pretty awful attacking closeouts or making more than a straight line at the basket. He's phenomenal in the open floor, very fast and aggressive. If he can get a straight line at the basket, it's a phenomenal thunder-dunk.

    But making moves of any complication and decisions in any sort of tight space is kind of a disaster. He's pretty terrible at it. Making passes on the move sends the ball out of bounds or into the hands of defenders more often than not. And I fear that he's so poor at driving or handling the ball, that defenders can close him out pretty aggressively. (Here's where his height really shines, as he can still get the shot off.) There's a reason why he has a 0.55 assist/turnover ratio and why he's getting tagged as having no self-creation.

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    Yeah Mantas is the same

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    Zak Risacher scouting reporter: He's no Lebron. As a SF he's a terrible PG. Can't penetrate and can't pass the ball.

    Zak Risacher agent: Yeah, but as a SF he has good size. He can shot. And defend. And as as SF he can play... SF.

    Zak Risacher scouting reporter: Neh. He's no Lebron.

    Zak Risacher mom: Lebron can't shot the threes.

    All NBA Teams: What's your number? We will fire this scout.

    Make American scouting reports great again.

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    Interesting that KOC has McCain 9 and he said he’s going to move him up even higher. He’s an amazing shooter, but not a point guard. Can he defend well enough to play SG on offense but guard PGs?

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    He is in Dallas working out with Melvin Sanders


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    Can we talk about Dalton Knecht for a minute?

    At first blush, I was completely out on a 23 year old until I found out the dude grew 5 inches since high school, and subsequently moved up from the lowest ranks of college basketball into big time D1. I have to think twice about his being maxed out at 23, when his growth as a player is probably more appropriately attributed to his actual physical growth vs just being older/stronger/more experienced than his counterparts. His background sounds nearly identical to Derrick White's, except he's probably slightly more athletic (see 39" vertical at the combine). The fact that he's had to work his way up from nothing is also appealing in the, "does he check off the box of being over himself" way, I think he's big enough and athletic enough to not be a complete liability on defense, and there's no question about his shooting and scoring chops. I wouldn't be too upset to see him at 8, especially if they took someone with a worse shooting profile like Castle or Topic at 4.

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    Michael Ajayi will withdraw
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    He is in Dallas working out with Melvin Sanders

    I think the Spurs swing hard on this guy at 8. They’ll take Castle or Topic at 4.

    It’s still a month until the draft, and I bet the media will lever up Topic hard once he’s able to practice again.

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    I think the Spurs swing hard on this guy at 8. They’ll take Castle or Topic at 4.

    It’s still a month until the draft, and I bet the media will lever up Topic hard once he’s able to practice again.
    Hope CHA or POR takes him before we get a chance to. He’s an extremely raw project of a player who can’t defend. Hard pass tbh.

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