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    this is the one draft prediction that is 100% going to happen.
    Lol and yet me trying to put a positive spin on the Primo pick is still brought up by the cellar dwellars.

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    I agree with this... I've got Sheppard and Castle 4 and 5 on my board, but I'm not so high on anybody that I'm going to get frustrated no matter which way we go. Even if we go topic I won't be upset because this thing is so flat from 3 or 4-10 or 11...
    I'd be upset with Topic or Dillingham at #4 because Hornets, Pistons and Blazers won't pick them. They have their star guards and don't need another guard that can't defend.
    If they're available at #8, fine.

    I also don't want Sheppard at #4 because we desperately need a guard that's going to collapse defenses and actually run the team.
    Sheppard and Devin would mean more point Sochan unless we find an actual point forward.

    Get Castle or the best forward at #4 because three of those will be gone by #8.

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    I'd be upset with Topic or Dillingham at #4 because Hornets, Pistons and Blazers won't pick them. They have their star guards and don't need another guard that can't defend.
    If they're available at #8, fine.

    I also don't want Sheppard at #4 because we desperately need a guard that's going to collapse defenses and actually run the team.
    Sheppard and Devin would mean more point Sochan unless we find an actual point forward.

    Get Castle or the best forward at #4 because three of those will be gone by #8.
    I don't want topic at 4 or 8 or Dilly at 4... Sheppard I'd be fine with. However, I'm not as invested in specific players after my top 3 because this thing is so flat. Topic could very well be the top player in this draft if his health works out, even though I have him outside the top 10 on my Spurs board. That's how flat this thing is between 4-11...

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    This draft is so flat and the picks so divisive, there will be a meltdown no matter whom gets picked.
    I think last years draft was the first time in a while that there wasn’t a significant subsection that hated the pick. What you described is pretty much every year.

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    the spurs need better defenders and more length but they also need shooters. this draft does not offer someone who can bring both of these things to the table so the spurs are going to have to make a choice. i, personally, would rather have someone who can defend and is long with the potential to improve his shot than a shooter who is barely 6'2" and not as good a defender. we all know that kawhi was a less than 30% shooter at san diego state.
    Problem is the Spurs don't have Chip anymore and you gotta wonder if Kawhi would have been another MKG without Chip given how terrible his jumpshot was (e.g. going behind his head and chunking it forward)

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    I'd be upset with Topic or Dillingham at #4 because Hornets, Pistons and Blazers won't pick them. They have their star guards and don't need another guard that can't defend.
    If they're available at #8, fine.

    I also don't want Sheppard at #4 because we desperately need a guard that's going to collapse defenses and actually run the team.
    Sheppard and Devin would mean more point Sochan unless we find an actual point forward.

    Get Castle or the best forward at #4 because three of those will be gone by #8.
    you're building in a massive assumption that those three teams will be making those three picks.

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    His camp has to push the point guard narrative since he can't shoot.
    Thompson twins were way better prospects and have been really underwhelming just because they don't have a shot, despite doing everything else well.

    Risacher is out of reach, other wing prospects aren't that convincing.
    I'd be fine with Castle and Dillingham, would give us complementary players with clear roles.

    Tre/Dillingham and Jeremy/Castle as players who can't share the floor.
    Devin as the best perimeter player can fit in any lineup, then a couple more 3-D guys with Champagnie being the last man in SG-SF-PF rotation.
    Or just one more 3-D guy if Keldon isn't traded.

    But we must get rid of Collins.
    Disagree, Amen looked really good even without the jumper, and Portland has to be kicking themselves now taking Scoot ahead of him.

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    you're building in a massive assumption that those three teams will be making those three picks.
    Do tell where's the logic in Pistons, Hornets or Blazers taking Dillingham/Topic.
    Castle and Sheppard are only realistic guard picks for them, imo.

    Disagree, Amen looked really good even without the jumper, and Portland has to be kicking themselves now taking Scoot ahead of him.
    He did look good, but he's still a perimeter player with no jumpshot whatsoever.

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    I'd be upset with Topic or Dillingham at #4 because Hornets, Pistons and Blazers won't pick them. They have their star guards and don't need another guard that can't defend.
    Kings would never take Haliburton when they have Fox

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    Kings would never take Haliburton when they have Fox
    Spurs would never take Haliburton when they have DJ and Derrick.

    Anyhow, I get your point, but drafting a 160lbs guard when you need everything else seems like a really bad idea.

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    I wasn’t high on Castle at first then looked at the choices, his positional versatility, his defense, BBIQ and also realized on the shooting front we can either get Dilly at 8 or at least Knecht so we are still checking a good number of boxes across the 2 picks.

    I also don’t fault those that say Dilly at 4 because he’s dynamic, can shoot, can pass and it opens up plenty of remaining wing options with length at 8.

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    Do tell where's the logic in Pistons, Hornets or Blazers taking Dillingham/Topic.
    Castle and Sheppard are only realistic guard picks for them, imo.
    What I’m saying is that one or more of those teams could trade their picks to teams that DO want guards.

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    I wasn’t high on Castle at first then looked at the choices, his positional versatility, his defense, BBIQ and also realized on the shooting front we can either get Dilly at 8 or at least Knecht so we are still checking a good number of boxes across the 2 picks.

    I also don’t fault those that say Dilly at 4 because he’s dynamic, can shoot, can pass and it opens up plenty of remaining wing options with length at 8.
    can knecht be playmaker...Feel like we need sum type of playmaker.Dont really trust castle to do that constsiently.

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    I wasn’t high on Castle at first then looked at the choices, his positional versatility, his defense, BBIQ and also realized on the shooting front we can either get Dilly at 8 or at least Knecht so we are still checking a good number of boxes across the 2 picks.

    I also don’t fault those that say Dilly at 4 because he’s dynamic, can shoot, can pass and it opens up plenty of remaining wing options with length at 8.
    I don’t know a ton about Knecht but he’s quite a bit older. I don’t see why we would draft someone who is already pretty much at his ceiling.

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    I don’t know a ton about Knecht but he’s quite a bit older. I don’t see why we would draft someone who is already pretty much at his ceiling.
    Because he's not remotely at his ceiling. He's just closer to it than the younger players.

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    can knecht be playmaker...Feel like we need sum type of playmaker.Dont really trust castle to do that constsiently.
    Not really, Knecht was my fall back. Remember, we don't expect to get defense, shooting, playmaking, and length all in this draft.

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    I don't see why Detroit shouldn't consider Dillingham pretty seriously. Badly need scoring and star wattage. Put him out there and see if he can get 22 ppg. At least there's some talent.

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    I don’t know a ton about Knecht but he’s quite a bit older. I don’t see why we would draft someone who is already pretty much at his ceiling.
    Derrick White was an old rookie and look at him. Knecht I think could contribute right awat and be a rotation piece for years to come. He has a higher floor than prospects like Castle, Topic, etc.

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    I don't see why Detroit shouldn't consider Dillingham pretty seriously. Badly need scoring and star wattage. Put him out there and see if he can get 22 ppg. At least there's some talent.
    Detroit is going to draft Buzelis, if the Spurs don't.

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    Knecht would be a safe pick and I don’t mind it. He is going be play in the league for a long time. Probably never an all star but solid rotation player.

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    Problem is the Spurs don't have Chip anymore and you gotta wonder if Kawhi would have been another MKG without Chip given how terrible his jumpshot was (e.g. going behind his head and chunking it forward)
    Chip gets too much credit. Kawhi made Kawhi not Chip.

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    I don't see why Detroit shouldn't consider Dillingham pretty seriously. Badly need scoring and star wattage. Put him out there and see if he can get 22 ppg. At least there's some talent.
    I also think Dillingham is in play at 5 with the Pistons. Buzelis is a better fit positionally because he can play the big wing/forward position but the Pistons badly need shooting and there really isn’t any at big wing/forward other than Risacher who will be off the board.

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    Chip gets too much credit. Kawhi made Kawhi not Chip.
    Then why was Kawhi's shot so until working with Chip?

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    you're building in a massive assumption that those three teams will be making those three picks.
    In fantasy footbal, you're at pick 11 and the guy at pick 12 already has a QB
    you drafting a QB in the 5th round or taking another top player and playing that the guy at 12 doesn't draft another QB at the 5/6 turn?

    I'm gambling that he doesn't go QB again and get my QB on the return swing in round 6.

    Spurs have to view this draft with getting the max value out of BOTH picks. It's not every draft they will have the advantage of having two close picks to one another.

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    Then why was Kawhi's shot so until working with Chip?
    Kawhi matured as a player in his all around game. Without chip I still believe Kawhi improves his shot.

    What did Chip do to improve his shot? Sometimes it's just a matter of the player working on it on his own.

    Everyone can believe what they want, that's what I believe.

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