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Darius Garland is the name who pop up in various journalists reports. I don't know if there is something serious behind that but there are like 3/4 sources that are linking him with Spurs.
Zach Collins to Memphis, Luke Kennard back to us? Close in salaries I think and it moves us from Collins and Memphis gets a big that they are looking for currently.
Darius Garland is the name who pop up in various journalists reports. I don't know if there is something serious behind that but there are like 3/4 sources that are linking him with Spurs.
I agree and the ATL rumors have fallen off. If they did opt to go for Garland, I wonder if they do try to get Risacher. Honestly, he would be the best fit in that case (though, the bench would need a lot of work).
Garland
Vassell
Risacher
Sochan
Wemby
It's been twice you came up with fake stats to hate on Risacher.
Risacher shot 37..8% (14/37) in seven PO games. He went 5/12 on the last 2 games.
I would hate that tbh….Rather just have Trae for that money…..especially if garland is also going to take picks. If it’s just salaries? Fine.
Sure hope that “vassell is untouchable” garbage is just a false rumor…
vassell cannot even throw an accurate lob at the tallest guy in the nba…
I'm assuming it'll take less picks to get Garland than ot will to get Trae. So it's really Trae vs Garland + whatever the extra picks we save by passing on Trae equate to.
Doubt he is actually anywhere near untouchable just that they currently have a high asking price for him and I doubt many teams are lining up to inquire. As we add talent to the roster he is going to lose touches so he better continue to work on his D.
I think Trae is way better than Garland but, if Spurs can get him without giving up too much assets, I would welcome a trade for Garland:
- I don't have an issue with his contract. With the cap raising by 10% each year with the new TV deal and Vassell descending contract structure, it should be fine for Spurs.
- Garland is young, a very solid playmaker and a great shooter. He has a lot of the qualities Spurs should be looking for at the PG for Wemby.
- As said by CGD, a player like Garland works especially well if you can get Risacher in the draft. With a strong playmaking PG, Risacher is just a perfect fit at SF for Spurs. The Garland/Vassell/Risacher/Sochan/Wembanyama lineup is just a very well build and balanced lineup with all the players below 25.
- Lastly, I think the biggest question about Garland is how much the pairing with Mitchel has hurt him?
If the Spurs trades for Garland it would cost at least the pick that might bring in Risacher, wouldn‘t it.
btw. I like the idea to bring in Garland more than Trea.
Sure, but to me with the money and years and talent, I’d rather just cough up the third pick for Trae instead of 2 for Garland if we are going to go that route anyways. You are already functionally going all in unless the difference in Garland and Trae is you get Garland for non-core salaries (meaning no Devin, Sochan or Wemby) + 1 meaningless pick (CHA and some 2nds) and Trae is like 3-4 firsts.
If Garland is still the same players + 2 legit firsts and Trae is just one or two picks more, go Trae.
Sure, Im just under the impression that it would take assets (picks) to get Garland just like Trae. I would only do Garland for something like Keldon+Collins+8 and maybe some seconds. If it’s much beyond that I am out.
I am fine with Garlands deal to if it means just paying him the extra money over what was allocated to Keldon/Collins anyways. That doesn’t bother me too much. But adding in any meaningful picks, especially multiple and I am out 100%. Im just not so sure Garland and Traes values will be different enough to warrant not getting Trae at that point though. We will see.
Garland is solid in theory, but he really only had one legit year. It was not just the Mitc pairing IMO. Even with Mitc out I don’t think Garland was playing awesome like that one season.
I'm just guessing, but I think Atlanta will require their DJ package + 1 extra first and Cleveland will require #8 + Keldon, Graham (salary ballast) + Branham and possibly one other futire Spurs pick
If that’s the case then it makes sense and I choose Garland too. But Im reading plenty on what seems to be many valuing Garland just as much as Trae and I believe that will hold somewhat true vs the example here.
But ya, if its just Keldon + other salaries + 8 that’s no problem at all as Im fine paying Garland all of Keldons money
8 + Charlotte pick back to Charlotte for 6.
Charlotte pick won't have much value to anyone other than Charlotte and it's not likely to convey into a first rounder anyways.
Gives Charlotte incentive to go for the playoffs, a positive for them.
I think that’s a real possibility if Spurs feel they need to move up to get their guy. For example, if Risacher falls to 4 and Spurs get him there, and they really want Castle or Dillingham or Reed and think they need to move up to get one, I can see that trade happening
It does pose an interesting question as to whether there is a deal to get the Spurs to 2, that is 4 + something that isn’t 8. WAS said to want another lotto pick this draft, so 4 + 8 appeals to them, but then the Spurs would lack the 24FRP to move for Garland (which is my preference).
Suppose the Spurs could build the Garland move around Keldon + CHI & CHA picks + Malaki + salary saving to CLE.
Seems odd that Garland will make more than Donovan Mitc next season, but I'm sure Mitc will eventually get his $$$ and then some as well.
What is your thoughts on if hes right though: Would you love Spurs trading 4+8 for Sarr? For Risacher?
I think it would be more like: Spurs trade Keldon + 8 + CHI + 2nds (maybe some other salaries) for Garland then use pick 4 + a future first to move to 1 or 2
Spurs would be high on a Risacher and Castle outcome
I agree, plus I think there is the “saving face” factor which complicates any ATL deal. They’re unlikely to come off getting their picks back in a dealing specific to the Spurs. This can’t be overlooked.
There are also other factors specific to the CLE situation that make them a more motivated seller than ATL in a specific dealing with the Spurs. Everything seems to hinge on Mitc .
Bottom line: a Garland will cost lower quality assets vis-a-vis any direct dealing with ATL.
Oof, I know it’s a packaged deal they also lands Garland, but the prospect of using a future FRP + 4 to grab ZR makes me uneasy. Think I’d at least want WAS to send over 20 as well.
It wouldn’t be one of ours. Maybe something like 4+ CHI + CHA (which is likely 2 seconds)
Risacher + Castle would be an incredible outcome, I just have a hard time seeing how it happens.
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