Question:
Is Durant the highest ceiling of Risacher????
Risacher will go one or two. Sarr will go in the other spot.
Clearly selected for engagement because we're not expected to select him so it's a surprise.
That said, there's an obvious case if both of our most-wanted choices (assume Rissacher + 1) go 1-3 that we figure it's not worth getting 2 guards/wings that aren't our top preferences in a below average draft, and that what will be available at 8 is not that much worse in quality/fit than what we can take at 4.
Whereas Clingan is the obvious best available big, Wemby can't play 48 mins a night.
Only see this if the 3 pick is taking our first-preference player tho.
If OKC overwhelms us with a trade package of 12 and several tasty future pick, for 4 so they can take Cligan, do you do it?
We’d be gifting them a really good Wemby defender for years to come.
It's contextual.
He was listed at 6-4, so I expected 6-2.5 or 6-2.75 barefoot.
He's bigger than Derrick White which I didn't expect
I mean it’s kinda of an obvious point, but, yes, would be wise of them to play out scenarios.
The rumored trade up teams
- Memphis (Clingan)
- Chicago (Buzelis)
- OKC (Clingan)
- Portland (Clingan)
Interesting Assets
- CHI (Ayo Dusunmo)
- OKC (Giddey; trove of picks)
- POR (7&14; distant FRPs from MIL & BOS)
Unless Risacher or Sheppard fall to us at 4 then whomever is left of Sarr and Clingan is the obvious BPA at that point.
I have Clingan 3rd my my big board and would be ok taking him 4th
We don't need future draft capital, so no.
Not just no but no.
So we’re tanking again this year? Because running it back with one of the league’s worst teams while using two top-10 picks on backup SG and backup C seems like a hard tank move.
Nah. Only player on their roster I'd be interested in that would be available would be Cason Wallace.
I’ll preface by saying that this is mostly just wishful thinking and this is highly unlikely… but if Utah is interested in moving up to take Clingan (why, I have no idea - doesn’t fit at all with Kessler)… then I’m happy to oblige if it’s part of a Markkannen deal.
Nah. Plenty of chance that Sarr goes one, someone else at Wash and Houston takes Reed or trades out to someone who takes Clingan.
Plenty of scenarios where Risacher doesn't go top three.
In many respects, I see things starting to shape out an an efficiency taking root whereby it becomes increasingly difficult to get ideal combos. I don’t see scenarios where you get two of Rischer/Castle/Sheppard/Buzelis (you won’t even get a shot to take one of some of them). You’re going to have to take one of them at 4 and then one of Dillingham/Knecht/Williams/Holland/Salaun/Carter at 8.
I think my preferred Combo is Buzelis + Dillingham/Carter. Willliams would be my third choice for #8. Don’t really care for the others. I really wanted two wings after the lotto, but Holland has tumble down my board, I don’t love Williams, but do see some potential there and SF/PF depth is so weak on this team (especially if Keldon will eventually be moved) that doubling up there takes a higher priority for me than PG. With that said… Dilly and Carter are the best two players left at 8 IMO and the team has too many holes to ignore that.
Why Buzelis over Castle? I could go either way there (and it wouldn’t impact what I do at 8 in this scenario… though I’m a little less excited about Castle the SF than I am Castle the G in a Derrick White kind of role). The key with Buzelis is that I do see shooting potential and think that will not just be average, but he’ll develop into a good NBA shooter. He moves well, has nice defensive potential, and I really like the length. His frame looks like it could support some more bulk too, and he could be a very good long term PF option.
How I see things at this point: Pick whoever is there of Sheppard/Castle at #4. Sarr and Risacher seem very likely to be gone by then, and seems fairly likely one of Sheppard/Castle will be gone too. If they’re both there then great, pick whichever you like best (I lean Sheppard). I don’t think Risacher will be available but honestly even if he is I still think I’d go with Sheppard/Castle.
For #8 it’s a crapshoot. Going to be at least 5 guys that you could reasonably argue, but Dillingham/Holland are probably my favorite 2 that seem likely to be there. Fine with Topic/Williams/Carter/Knecht too…don’t think I’d hate any (reasonable) pick aside from them going the Salaun route.
I could see SA trading down from 8 if they’re not super high on anyone and feel like it’s a flat tier from 8 to 14 or whatever. That being said we have more than enough picks coming our way…not a huge fan of acquiring more 2nds but if they get a meaningful haul for trading back 5 spots then go for it.
Last edited by SpursFan86; 06-08-2024 at 09:28 AM.
theres no rookie in this draft outside of Cling that is gonna move the needle much for any team right off the bat. There’s a learning curve and it takes time for rookies to get acclimated to all the games, schemes & minutes at the nba level. Its why in my mock line up Cling & Knect come off the bench. Eventually they will start. But lets be honest, the Spurs team started to play better together with Tre at the point after the allstar break. Spurs would have won close to 30 games in my opinion had Tre started from the get go. Cling coming off the bench would help maintain leads we lost alot of when Wemby went to the bench. I hope noone has playoff expectations next year we have the same team with 2 rookies this coming year. The Spurs aent going to trade everything for any player under 6’6, size & defense wins championships outside of the young Warriors. Two years from now playoff expectations will be legit. Just my arm chair GM opinion. Knect aint falling to 8 anyways
No.
No.
And no.
Wemby should never, ever start with another traditional big.
Maybe I’m too opportunistic, but I’ve seen many say there aren’t rookies that are going to come in and make a difference. We have arguably two of the worst starters in the league in Tre Jones and Julian Champagnie (and I love both of those guys) just not as starters.
Not a huge fan of the option bc of his personnality and past, but DJ makes a lot more sense when you think of Wemby's playmaking abilities.
We might not need a PG that breaks defenses/floor manager but one that can shoot/spread and play pick and rolls, which he can.
+ Once a Spur he could be a very diff player that the one showcasing himself like he does in ATL. "Spurs culture/dna" could work on him
the teams that matter are going towards large front court players. You got the young Timberwolves, OKC is looking to add another center, the Mavs got Lively & Gafford, you still Got Embiid in the east another 3-5 years. Wemby isnt ever going to put on 50 lbs of muscle and have a lower center of gravity at 7’5. Collins is useless. We need to be able to match up with these western conference playoff rivals if we’re going anywhere in the next few years.
No.
Having another big on the floor just allows the opposition to keep more size on the floor and double Wemby in the paint. Unless that other 7 footer is someone like Markkanen who's actually a wing.
Wemby doesn't need muscle, he's at the point where his length advantage is overwhelming enough to negate weight difference. We saw it already. Even if he's pushed all the way under the basket, he's got enough length to contest most shots.
And those heavy bigs can't keep up with him on the other end.
Teams always adjust to the best player in the league. When Wemby gets there, they won't have a choice but to adjust to the Spurs roster, not the other way around.
Recipe will most likely be a bunch of long wings and one elite rim protector who won't be a primary defender on Wemby.
Last edited by LeBowen; 06-08-2024 at 11:24 AM.
It depends on teams like Washington and Detroit recognizing who their best choices actually are.
Washington - Risacher ain't it. Not because he's bad, but because he doesn't do anything for them. Another forward to stick in the corner and one who cannot self-create, the way Bilal cannot self-create? Better trade down, take a defensive centerpiece, or a guard who can organize things or become a star.
Detroit - Buzelis gets mention due to nepotism. He's actually a fine piece, would be a good get. What they actually need is a scoring flamethrower to take the pressure off all their non-shooters.
Houston - A true wildcard, as their play is moving the pick and the destination team's needs could be anything.
Priorities imm are Castle - Dillingham - Sheppard - and down a bit Risacher. Don't really care so much about Risacher but I'd be okay. That's probably my top tier.
I think Washington is high risk to take Castle or even Dillingham. The traded Houston pick is probably Clingan, but could be Sheppard. I don't think anyone is going to trade up for Castle or Dillingham.
Detroit really should take Dillingham. That's assuming Risacher and Sheppard are gone. Even if they're there, Dillingham is the right pick for them.
My targets at this point is trying to get Castle-Dillingham or Castle-Sheppard (unlikely, but that's fine). My antennae are out to trade down to get another team Clingan, which means trading down from the 4. I would also be open if someone wants to target a Sheppard or Risacher who is still there at 4. I realize this is contradictory, but being open to assets is good.
I'm also open to trading out from the 8, whether for Clingan or otherwise. If I can get one of the two best fits (Castle, Dillingham) and trade the other out, I'm okay with that. We still have that 35 and a wealth of playoff teams who may want to move out of the first round. Knicks have two picks in the 20s, for example. Picking a Furphy or a Dadiet later is a far better outcome than getting Risacher at 4, for example.
If I'm still picking at 8 and have my second favorite gone, I'm not too upset going for a Cody Williams or Carter type. That's fine.
tl;dr Get at least one of the two excellent fits/upsides, see about squeezing value out of the rest.
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