Mock Draft 2.0 - Who Would Spurs Pick with Top Choices Off the Board?

[The Truth #6]

With the scenario presented that's who I'm taking at 4, Sheppard Dillingham or Carter will be there at 8.

Same. Could get two starters out of that.

But I could see Buz and then Cody if they really want to go all in on this archetype. Personally, I think that would be a bad idea to get to fixated on a certain type of player, especially after you just drafted such an incredible talent in VW. The focus now should be what they had said last year, building around him, and hopefully not obsessively sticking to some prior notion of how to build a team.

[DPG21920]

I feel like too many here are too low on Cody Williams tbh…I think theres very solid odds SA really likes him and ends up with him

[spurraider21]

People who don't like Saluan but would be happy with Buzelis or Cody Williams tbh

i'd rather have holland or castle (not as a point guard) than either of them, though

i dont see any measure by which salaun should be considered a better prospect than samanic was, and we thought samanic was a reach at 19 and should have been targeted with the #29 pick in that draft. even in a weak draft where you move everybody up by 8-10 spots for arguments sake, salaun should still be going early 20's at best

he doesnt have any tangible skills. ball handling? positioning/feel? passing? shot creation/scoring? finishing? defensive awareness? defensive production? rebounding?

the one skill people like out of him is his 3pt shooting, and even then he was a 33% shooter, so its not like he's a specialist (even though he's young and a willing shooter and volume usually is a solid predictor as well, like with wemby). and they talk about his defensive potential because he hustles or whatever but he's not a good defender. he has good length but isnt a great athlete either. for a guy who "tries" on defense as much as he supposedly does, with a 7'2 wingspan, how does he only block 8 shots all season? he's not very athletic nor does he have any feel or timing.

he has so far to go to even be a role player, that i just think the risk is too high and reward too low. i really dont understand the "he has star potential" stuff whatsoever. at least with a lump of clay like giannis we saw intriguing ballhandling/passing/finishing skills in addition to him being a great athlete

i dont think salaun even belongs in the conversation for #8

[The Truth #6]

I feel like too many here are too low on Cody Williams tbh…I think theres very solid odds SA really likes him and ends up with him

Buz and Cody could be awesome and definitely a logic to prioritizing size. But at some point they need a point guard is my ultimate point.

[onechance87]

Buz and Cody could be awesome and definitely a logic to prioritizing size. But at some point they need a point guard is my ultimate point.

yup...A pg is a must.Just dont know who would fit best next to wemby.Castle,dilly,reed or carter.Not sure about topic.

[Mr. Body]

I always thought Buzelis would rise a bit. I'd take him before Risacher, probably. Just think there's more upside.

[kobyz]

I don't understand why there is no hype for Clingan at 4, if KAT and Gobert pairing can work, why not believe in Wemby/Clingan?

[4lifecowboy]

Same. Could get two starters out of that.

But I could see Buz and then Cody if they really want to go all in on this archetype. Personally, I think that would be a bad idea to get to fixated on a certain type of player, especially after you just drafted such an incredible talent in VW. The focus now should be what they had said last year, building around him, and hopefully not obsessively sticking to some prior notion of how to build a team.

I'm really starting to like Devin Carter @ 8. I think he is going to be an long time NBA starter. I like is at ude and his athletic attributes. He is a leader.

[onechance87]

I don't understand why there is no hype for Clingan at 4, if KAT and Gobert pairing can work, why not believe in Wemby/Clingan?

yea dont understand it either.Wemby has also said he prefers not to play center.Clingan along with dilly or carter would
be cool.

[CGD]

I always thought Buzelis would rise a bit. I'd take him before Risacher, probably. Just think there's more upside.

How would you rank these guys: ZR, Buz, Saluan, and Cody?

[Degoat]

I don't understand why there is no hype for Clingan at 4, if KAT and Gobert pairing can work, why not believe in Wemby/Clingan?

It’s just because we have so many glaring needs tbh Clingan is going to be good but finding another big isn’t at the top of the needs list.

[Mr. Body]

How would you rank these guys: ZR, Buz, Saluan, and Cody?

Dunno. Probably Buzelis, Risacher, Williams, with Saluan far behind. I hope the best for him, but don't think he'll be any good.

[Mugen]

i'd rather have holland or castle (not as a point guard) than either of them, though

i dont see any measure by which salaun should be considered a better prospect than samanic was, and we thought samanic was a reach at 19 and should have been targeted with the #29 pick in that draft. even in a weak draft where you move everybody up by 8-10 spots for arguments sake, salaun should still be going early 20's at best

he doesnt have any tangible skills. ball handling? positioning/feel? passing? shot creation/scoring? finishing? defensive awareness? defensive production? rebounding?

the one skill people like out of him is his 3pt shooting, and even then he was a 33% shooter, so its not like he's a specialist (even though he's young and a willing shooter and volume usually is a solid predictor as well, like with wemby). and they talk about his defensive potential because he hustles or whatever but he's not a good defender. he has good length but isnt a great athlete either. for a guy who "tries" on defense as much as he supposedly does, with a 7'2 wingspan, how does he only block 8 shots all season? he's not very athletic nor does he have any feel or timing.

he has so far to go to even be a role player, that i just think the risk is too high and reward too low. i really dont understand the "he has star potential" stuff whatsoever. at least with a lump of clay like giannis we saw intriguing ballhandling/passing/finishing skills in addition to him being a great athlete

i dont think salaun even belongs in the conversation for #8

I'd be fine with Holland at 8. I don't think Cody Williams would even be in the lottery convo if his brother wasn't JDub. And how you feel about Saluan is how I feel about Buzelis tbh.

[Eaglenole2002]

yea dont understand it either.Wemby has also said he prefers not to play center.Clingan along with dilly or carter would
be cool.

I would take Sarr without hesitation because he projects to be a more versatile offensive and defensive piece, similar to supercharged Porzingis and Horford if Sarr hits his ceiling. Clingan would be fine at 8 because I’m confident he will be a quality NBA player. But at 4, I prefer the other prospects because Clingan is a clunky fit with Wemby since Wemby is unlocked at center, and Clingan can’t defend 4s.

[baseline bum]

I feel like too many here are too low on Cody Williams tbh…I think theres very solid odds SA really likes him and ends up with him

He definitely took Topic's place on my shortlist of guys I wouldn't mind taking a HR swing on at 8. Would probably lean Holland here but good chance he's gone by 8.

[spurraider21]

I'd be fine with Holland at 8. I don't think Cody Williams would even be in the lottery convo if his brother wasn't JDub. And how you feel about Saluan is how I feel about Buzelis tbh.

the hypothetical part about buzelis' game is mostly his outside shooting. he can create looks for himself, can handle the ball well for his position (better than sochan, for instance), can actually finish around the rim, and was a plus defender.

my biggest concern with him is his strength/rebounding, but strength is one of the things you can pretty reliably bank on improving with such young players

im not a big buzelis fan, but he has actual tangible basketball skills you can point to, unlike salaun

[Mr. Body]

the hypothetical part about buzelis' game is mostly his outside shooting. he can create looks for himself, can handle the ball well for his position (better than sochan, for instance), can actually finish around the rim, and was a plus defender.

my biggest concern with him is his strength/rebounding, but strength is one of the things you can pretty reliably bank on improving with such young players

im not a big buzelis fan, but he has actual tangible basketball skills you can point to, unlike salaun

I'll have to disagree with a bit here. Buzelis really suffers in comparison to Sochan. First of all, Sochan was a much better outside shooter than Buzelis was, if you can believe it. That's how bad Buzelis was.

That aside, Sochan is a far, far better ballhandler than Buzelis is. There's no real comparison. He was also a better rebounder, even in the inflated-stats of Ignite. He was also a much, much better all-around defender.

I get that people are super-revisionist about Sochan and try not to recognize his strengths at all possible, but Buzelis's skillset is entirely theoretical at this point. He's very good in the open court (like Risacher). He's fast for his size. He can possibly develop a good amount of skills. But Sochan is a far better defender, ball-handler, and creator. The only place Buzelis has him is weak-side shotblocking.

[Knoxxx]

Doesn't look dynamic(big enough, quick enough, athletic enough) enough to be a starter in the NBA. Will be a shooter who comes off the bench. Like Pritchard in Boston.

Is Pritchard worth the 4th pick in this draft?

If Sheppard is the pick that could mean that the draft went Sarr—Risacher-Castle top 3 in any particular order. From there I could pose the same question, do you have a different top 4 then those 3 and Sheppard? If not, Sheppard is the pick. Otherwise, who are you proposing is #4 after those 3 I just mentioned? I am comfortable with that as my top 4, opinions can vary of course.

[exstatic]

I'll have to disagree with a bit here. Buzelis really suffers in comparison to Sochan. First of all, Sochan was a much better outside shooter than Buzelis was, if you can believe it. That's how bad Buzelis was.

That aside, Sochan is a far, far better ballhandler than Buzelis is. There's no real comparison. He was also a better rebounder, even in the inflated-stats of Ignite. He was also a much, much better all-around defender.

I get that people are super-revisionist about Sochan and try not to recognize his strengths at all possible, but Buzelis's skillset is entirely theoretical at this point. He's very good in the open court (like Risacher). He's fast for his size. He can possibly develop a good amount of skills. But Sochan is a far better defender, ball-handler, and creator. The only place Buzelis has him is weak-side shotblocking.

You can say that about anyone who has played for the GLI. Fortunately,, with their disbandment, this is the lasy year we have to deal with undisciplined, uncoached, unskilled low IQ players from there.

[spurraider21]

I'll have to disagree with a bit here. Buzelis really suffers in comparison to Sochan. First of all, Sochan was a much better outside shooter than Buzelis was, if you can believe it. That's how bad Buzelis was.

That aside, Sochan is a far, far better ballhandler than Buzelis is. There's no real comparison. He was also a better rebounder, even in the inflated-stats of Ignite. He was also a much, much better all-around defender.

I get that people are super-revisionist about Sochan and try not to recognize his strengths at all possible, but Buzelis's skillset is entirely theoretical at this point. He's very good in the open court (like Risacher). He's fast for his size. He can possibly develop a good amount of skills. But Sochan is a far better defender, ball-handler, and creator. The only place Buzelis has him is weak-side shotblocking.

then we just disagree i guess. i agree sochan is the better passer, but buzelis is the better ballhandler and creator, imo. sochan is also a stronger defender.

matas scores in isolation in ways that sochan has simply never shown, even at the collegiate level

[Knoxxx]

I feel like too many here are too low on Cody Williams tbh…I think theres very solid odds SA really likes him and ends up with him

Im in the camp of Williams has the bloodlines and better size than his very talented older brother. I don’t have CW at 12 or whatever, that’s too low IMO. And if the top 10 also includes Clingan and Topic, the math suggests CW could indeed be our pick at 8. I have not really come around to Salaun, I’d lean to putting him in the 12-15 range and mainly due to the hype he’s gotten as top 10 or better.

[rascal]

If Sheppard is the pick that could mean that the draft went Sarr—Risacher-Castle top 3 in any particular order. From there I could pose the same question, do you have a different top 4 then those 3 and Sheppard? If not, Sheppard is the pick. Otherwise, who are you proposing is #4 after those 3 I just mentioned? I am comfortable with that as my top 4, opinions can vary of course.

If that happens best to trade the pick to a team that wants Clingan.

[kobyz]

If that happens best to trade the pick to a team that wants Clingan.

And giving them a potential Wemby stopper?

[scott]

We're one of the worst teams in the league. I'm not super concerned about other teams getting a Wemby stopper or us finding a Luka/SGA/whoever stopper. For now, let's just focus on getting a base level of talent on our roster.

[baseline bum]

If that happens best to trade the pick to a team that wants Clingan.

Can't say I'd want to hand Clingan to OKC or Memphis