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    What‘s the deal? They trade #1 for #4 and Spurs accept a top 1 protection on the 2025 pick? at least it’s an interesting approach.

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    Man’s voice is deeper than Kyrie’s bag


    First thing that came to mind

    PS: voice sounds different at the end, there's some sort of sound effect there.

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    i dont know about that. by taking the #1 pick off of them, we are also making that ATL 25 pick better, since they lose the ability to improve themselves via the draft. from a value perspective i could go with the 2027 pick. but that also contemplates the spurs taking 3 players (#1, #4, and #8) and finding time to develop them all. also, pushing in chips to maximize picks in a weak draft seems impulsive
    If spurs like Sarr it’s hard to argue getting a bird in hand with him isn’t a good idea at expense of 25 pick especially because if that encourages atl to blow it up then 26 & 27 are now more valuable too.

    Really hard to argue , even in a weak draft, that guaranteed #1 in a draft for Dejounte with 2 additional picks isn’t a massive win. Massive.

    I can see not doing it too easily. Especially if they don’t love Sarr. But if Sa likes the pairing? 100% justified and imo once you strip away “number one pick” ego on atl side value wise it’s fair too (whether atl agree or would take that optics hit is another thing)

    My guess is it would mean Trae deal is already lined up for ATL simultaneously

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    I don’t understand how Sarr would fit alongside Wemby. Risacher makes sense but I don’t see much reason to move up and let go of future capital unless the framework involves Young or Murray.
    Not happening anyways. If the Spurs move up, it's for Risacher.

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    FWIW -- Via CBS Sports' new mock they just released an hour ago:


    "The thing I keep hearing about the Spurs is that shooting is going to be a requisite... They do not want anymore non-shooters." (4:22 mark)


    Not exactly rocket science that we badly need shooting, but if we pass on Castle for Salaun or Knecht, we also riot.


    the thing with castle is he isnt just a poor/mediocre shooter. he's a non-shooter. his shooting numbers are worse than sochan and wesley's college shooting numbers

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    I'm starting to think this is way too much analysis. Let's just go all the way back to the basics and put one of the bands back together again.

    4- Reed Sheppard
    8 - Robert Dillingham
    35 - Justin Edwards
    48 - Antonio Reeves
    Notn a fan of taking both Sheppard and Dillingham, but other than that, this makes too much sense. If only I could say the same about the Spurs' FO.

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    Not happening anyways. If the Spurs move up, it's for Risacher.
    No, that bird has flown. They don't seem to have had any interest.

    The reason this story is popping is because Sarr is now available.

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    I don’t understand how Sarr would fit alongside Wemby. Risacher makes sense but I don’t see much reason to move up and let go of future capital unless the framework involves Young or Murray.
    One of two things should happen tomorrow night:

    1) Someone trades up to 3 for Clingan and they select Sheppard at 4

    2) No one trades up to 3 for Clingan, they select him at 4 and trade it as part of a package of picks + a player (Johnson? Jones? Graham?) for 1 (Risacher) and Murray.

    What will happen tomorrow night: Spurs select Castle at 4.

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    Givony is so desperate for this to happen.
    Not as much as ATL

    I'd be ready to give A LOT if I was ATL to get 25' back

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    the thing with castle is he isnt just a poor/mediocre shooter. he's a non-shooter. his shooting numbers are worse than sochan and wesley's college shooting numbers


    Yea you're definitely banking on that shot improvement obviously, but it's a risk I'm willing to take personally if I'm the Spurs (assuming Zacc and Reed are both gone). I keep going back to the Jimmy Butler and Jrue Holiday comparisons because they all shared so many similarities as Freshman in college in terms of strengths and weaknesses, as well as shooting %'s.

    I also know that Castle is arguably the best perimeter defender in this draft and is good at just about everything else. He's got a really good physical profile and contributed big minutes to a National Champion UCONN team this season as a true Freshman. I know how much be loves ball based on interviews and what Coach Hurley and their coaching staff have to say about him. He's not a knucklehead and he's not social media obsessed -- He's just a hooper. He's exactly the type of hard-nosed player and high-character kid PATFO typically look for when it comes to he draft. His jumper is the only thing from keeping him from being an All-Star caliber player in the coming years. To me, that's easily worth a swing at 4 in a weak draft. If he hits,

    Besides, who are you taking instead of him at 4 if the other 3 guys are gone? Salaun or Cody Williams? If they want to swing on them at 4 then so be it, but to draft either of them at 4 over Castle would be misconduct imo.

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    Update:We are down to basically two choices:
    Take Sarr and get the Wizards to move up to get him. Wizards want him badly. #1 for #2 and #26 or something like that in value. We would take Clingan at #2 or take Risacher for the below scenario.
    Take Risacher and either keep him or flip him to the Spurs. This would be like the old Elton Brand for Tyson Chandler trade. The Bulls back then would only do that trade if Curry was there for them at #4 in that draft. When Atlanta...sigh...passed on Gasol by flipping him for SAR the Bulls got their guy and made the trade. If the Hawks had taken Curry or traded it to someone else that took Curry...the Bulls don't do the deal.
    So in this case if Clingan is there at 4 the Spurs take him and we swap guys plus pick up our 2025 and 2027 firsts.
    In that scenario we turn Risacher into Clingan and our 2025 and 2027 unprotected firsts back. Spurs still have the pick swap in 2026.
    If Clingan is gone...we just keep Risacher.
    This seems to be the current thinking of the FO. Again, this can change. Teams are upping their interest in #1, DJM, Capela and Hunter. I'm hearing teams are making pitches for AJ and Kobe as well.
    From one of the so-called insiders on Hawksquawk...this basically proves to me this dude doesnt know jack if he thinks the Spurs would give them #4 and their 25/27 picks for the #1 pick in this draft

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    What‘s the deal? They trade #1 for #4 and Spurs accept a top 1 protection on the 2025 pick? at least it’s an interesting approach.
    Gross. I'm ready to give this FO the benefit of the doubt... but if they go and do something like this I'll be at One Spurs Way with pitchforks and torches.

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    From one of the so-called insiders on Hawksquawk...this basically proves to me this dude doesnt know jack if he thinks the Spurs would give them #4 and their 25/27 picks for the #1 pick in this draft
    Lol. I like perusing opposing team's message boards from time to time for a good laugh as well.

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    Yea you're definitely banking on that shot improvement obviously, but it's a risk I'm willing to take personally if I'm the Spurs (assuming Zacc and Reed are both gone). I keep going back to the Jimmy Butler and Jrue Holiday comparisons because they all shared so many similarities as Freshman in college in terms of strengths and weaknesses, as well as shooting %'s.

    I also know that Castle is arguably the best perimeter defender in this draft and is good at just about everything else. He's got a really good physical profile and contributed big minutes to a National Champion UCONN team this season as a true Freshman. I know how much be loves ball based on interviews and what Coach Hurley and their coaching staff have to say about him. He's not a knucklehead and he's not social media obsessed -- He's just a hooper. He's exactly the type of hard-nosed player and high-character kid PATFO typically look for when it comes to he draft. His jumper is the only thing from keeping him from being an All-Star caliber player in the coming years. To me, that's easily worth a swing at 4 in a weak draft. If he hits,

    Besides, who are you taking instead of him at 4 if the other 3 guys are gone? Salaun or Cody Williams? If they want to swing on them at 4 then so be it, but to draft either of them at 4 over Castle would be misconduct imo.
    dillingham is the next guy on my board, but recognizing that he's almost certainly going to be there at 8, i'd draft around that. i still have castle/holland in that next tier and both are shooters, so i probably would take castle anyway with the expectation that im taking dillingham later. i wouldnt hate cody williams in that spot either.

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    This is completely unrealistic. I (and probably most of us) don't buy that the Spurs would do the '25 1st unprotected, never mind adding '27.

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    Lol. I like perusing opposing team's message boards from time to time for a good laugh as well.
    Rocket fans are going to be on suicide watch if the rockets let Reed Sheppard fall to the Spurs, they hate the idea of the spurs getting any talent around wemby lol

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    Man’s voice is deeper than Kyrie’s bag

    Serbian Batman...

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    Lmao at Atl fans thinking they get 4 + 25 & 27 lololololol

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    I'm not trading that 25 if I'm the Spurs....hawks gonna be dog water when they offload trae and DJ despite who they take at #1

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    From one of the so-called insiders on Hawksquawk...this basically proves to me this dude doesnt know jack if he thinks the Spurs would give them #4 and their 25/27 picks for the #1 pick in this draft
    LOL, what a load of delusional copium being consumed here. Wright should just sit back with a lit cigar and say "go ahead and take Risacher, see if I GAF, clowns"

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    Dilly practically begging to be a Spur tbh


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    Man’s voice is deeper than Kyrie’s bag

    This mother er kind of looks and definitely sounds like Hodor from GoT

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    “Either wash gives 2 + 26 for 1 or Spurs give up 4, 8, 25-27 and a future unprotected first - just have to see what happens !”

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    FWIW -- Via CBS Sports' new mock they just released an hour ago:


    "The thing I keep hearing about the Spurs is that shooting is going to be a requisite... They do not want anymore non-shooters." (4:22 mark)


    Not exactly rocket science that we badly need shooting, but if we pass on Castle for Salaun or Knecht, we also riot.


    I love how they say that the Spurs see shooting as requisite, but they go ahead and mock Castle and Salaun to us anyway

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