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    I doubt OKC is trying to trade up for Clingan makes zero sense for their offense. Timvp is insinuiting it is Cody but I think it is Salaun. They need elite size at the 4 and still maintain their playstyle. UTA is the one targeting Cody, they have zero wing prospects.
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    The only thing Givony can allude to is that he doesn't know .
    Givony probably does know things but he seems more interested in being a mouthpiece for agents/teams than to leak true info. Pays better, surely.

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    Givony probably does know things but he seems more interested in being a mouthpiece for agents/teams than to leak true info. Pays better, surely.
    Big accomplishment for Givony to convince the whole basketball world that Zaccharie should be drafted this high. That was a great feat.

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    Givony was on the Dunc'd On Podcast and was kind of getting testy when Duncan had his own opinions, i don't think he's used to interviewers giving their own thoughts instead of just being thrilled at everything he says. Funny to listen to him get mad and start raising his voice

    But

    On both this interview and the one with Windhorst he did do a pretty good job of selling Risacher

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    Givony was on the Dunc'd On Podcast and was kind of getting testy when Duncan had his own opinions, i don't think he's used to interviewers giving their own thoughts instead of just being thrilled at everything he says. Funny to listen to him get mad and start raising his voice

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    On both this interview and the one with Windhorst he did do a pretty good job of selling Risacher
    I don't think Givony has opinions so much as agendas. He probably has a big ego, but he is ESPN now through and through and those guys are crooked. He's been Risacher's extra agent for a while now. So much so that there's something else there.

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    Or maybe he locked in bets that he needs to make happen.

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    Assists aren't as common in European ball, not that they're great passers anyway
    Risacher was averaging 4.4 ass/game last year in his U21 youth team when he had more responsabiltiy as a primary initiator and playmaker, which he wasn't asked to do this year, with US guards in charge in Bourg.

    Which real, pro scouts perfectly know, contrary to a bunch of fans on Reddit or basic haters on here who discovered Zach a few months ago and never saw him play. No surprise he proved a decent passer in his workouts... And weak draft or not, and contrary to what some seem to imagine, he's not projected #1 just because. The potential is there.

    Assists may also not be granted a easily in Europe than in the NBA.

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    Based on the Houston news this morning there is now a much better chance that Reed is available for the pick at 4. Sheppard fans got a boost with this news that Houston is going after KD. So there’s a better chance that Reed is available. If I had to bet money, I would still bet Castle and Carter, but now there’s a somewhat of a chance for Reed at 4

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    Risacher was averaging 4.4 ass/game last year in his U21 youth team when he had more responsabiltiy as a primary initiator and playmaker, which he wasn't asked to do this year, with US guards in charge in Bourg.

    Which real, pro scouts perfectly know, contrary to a bunch of fans on Reddit or basic haters on here who discovered Zach a few months ago and never saw him play. No surprise he proved a decent passer in his workouts... And weak draft or not, and contrary to what some seem to imagine, he's not projected #1 just because. The potential is there.

    Assists may also not be granted a easily in Europe than in the NBA.
    By the eye test, he cannot handle any kind of pressure and is very bad at passing on the move. Maybe he was better than kids but not against players of his level.

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    Risacher was averaging 4.4 ass/game last year in his U21 youth team when he had more responsabiltiy as a primary initiator and playmaker, which he wasn't asked to do this year, with US guards in charge in Bourg.

    Which real, pro scouts perfectly know, contrary to a bunch of fans on Reddit or basic haters on here who discovered Zach a few months ago and never saw him play. No surprise he proved a decent passer in his workouts... And weak draft or not, and contrary to what some seem to imagine, he's not projected #1 just because. The potential is there.

    Assists may also not be granted a easily in Europe than in the NBA.
    you just shot a hole in the theory, that the only reason he is ranked #1 is, because this mighty guy Givony had decided he has to be.

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    The only thing Givony can allude to is that he doesn't know .
    Guys who do analytics and player analysis nearly always fail when they get into the gossip game, because they have no sources for that so they guess 100% of the time, and they get exposed.

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    By logic of previous seasons, Risacher was a bad shooter before this year, so...

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    Guys who do analytics and player analysis nearly always fail when they get into the gossip game, because they have no sources for that so they guess 100% of the time, and they get exposed.
    I'm fine with them guesstimating draft prospects and young players, it's their job, after all. But I hate when someone like Givony tries to push a narrative that X team will do Y trade just because he thinks it should happen.

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    I'm fine with them guesstimating draft prospects and young players, it's their job, after all. But I hate when someone like Givony tries to push a narrative that X team will do Y trade just because he thinks it should happen.
    Again, he's ESPN. They've been pushing the Trae Young to the Spurs narrative for months.

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    The Salian Experience starts tonight tbh, can’t wait.

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    In draft adjacent news, Detroit will renounce James Wiseman, making him an unrestricted free agent.

    Maybe the least successful high upside/high ceiling big swing of last half decade.

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    Winhorst rumbling the rockets may take Clingan with the intention of trading Sengun

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    In draft adjacent news, Detroit will renounce James Wiseman, making him an unrestricted free agent.

    Maybe the least successful high upside/high ceiling big swing of last half decade.
    "Hey, this guy quit his college team after like four games and refuses to play again. He must be great!"

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    Winhorst rumbling the rockets may take Clingan with the intention of trading Sengun
    Lol.

    Trade the only near star they have.

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    Lol.

    Trade the only near star they have.
    While Sengun is great, he's no Jokic, but a Sabonis.
    And unless it's Jokic, having a max contract center in today's game gets you only so far.
    They'll offer him a max extension this year, it kicks in next summer.
    If there's a team that really likes Sengun and is willing to pay a lot, they should trade him, imo.

    But only if they can get another potential franchise player, not a 36 year old who would cost a ton of picks.
    Rockets might just be dumb enough to give Suns a lifeline with KD trade. But then again, Suns would probably be dumb enough to reject the offer.

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    Givony is straight up ting on Castle and the Ignite guys. He said when Castle played point in HS he had 100 turnovers a game. Ignite team was the worst g-league team in 25 years.

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    Givony is straight up ting on Castle and the Ignite guys. He said when Castle played point in HS he had 100 turnovers a game. Ignite team was the worst g-league team in 25 years.
    He absolutely has an agenda. Is anyone calling him out on this?

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    While Sengun is great, he's no Jokic, but a Sabonis.
    And unless it's Jokic, having a max contract center in today's game gets you only so far.
    They'll offer him a max extension this year, it kicks in next summer.
    If there's a team that really likes Sengun and is willing to pay a lot, they should trade him, imo.

    But only if they can get another potential franchise player, not a 36 year old who would cost a ton of picks.
    Rockets might just be dumb enough to give Suns a lifeline with KD trade. But then again, Suns would probably be dumb enough to reject the offer.
    I think playing with Sengun is hard for the Rockets, and possibly not what they want to do with Udoka as coach. That said, he's clearly their best player, so it's awkward. They have a lot of good pieces, but I don't think any stars. Sengun on Phoenix is actually pretty intriguing, an inside-out style with Booker.

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    Winhorst rumbling the rockets may take Clingan with the intention of trading Sengun
    Man, I’m starting to think Sheppard at 4 is not such a long shot…

    Risacher and Sarr almost seem like locks to go 1 and 2 at this point. With Houston’s move last night + all the rumblings about them wanting to aggressively add a star this offseason, I really think they’re trading out of #3 (or selecting Clingan if there are plans to deal Sengun).

    If Sheppard is on the board at 4 and we go in another direction I will riot

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