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    Do you think the Spurs don't want to make the playoffs next season as in, they're not actively going for Flagg, but would want to get a top 4 pick over making the playoffs while also having a small chance at Flagg? Do you think that's the strategy? More internal growth to see what the guys can do first?

    What chance did the Hawks have of getting the number 1 pick in the 2024 draft? I'm guessing the Spurs will take that chance next season.
    My position is keep the ATL picks, and I think they’ll struggle.

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    to the Naw on brining Chris Paul or Trae Young here. Hard, hard PASS.
    i actually would be down for paul since he wouldnt increase our win total too much and would bring a vet presence for trey and castle. but know it wont happen since it will mean him giving up on the possibility of a ring.

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    i actually would be down for paul since he wouldnt increase our win total too much and would bring a vet presence for trey and castle. but know it wont happen since it will mean him giving up on the possibility of a ring.
    Paul will NOT let them lose. He set OKCs tank back by at least a year with a surprise playoff appearance. Of course, it was CP3, so they lost.

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    If the Spur's don't execute a major trade and start the season with Castle as the only new player acquisition, I don't see the voter's of SA approving a new $1.25 billion arena for them. They better get busy and generate some excitement for this team.

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    If the Spur's don't execute a major trade and start the season with Castle as the only new player acquisition, I don't see the voter's of SA approving a new $1.25 billion arena for them. They better get busy and generate some excitement for this team.
    They can’t leave until 2032, so any vote is easily 5 years out. No need to speed things up on that account.

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    I wonder if the Spurs' plan is to give the City of SA a bunch of unprotected picks in order to get out of their lease.

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    Is Cooper Flagg any good? I hear that he can’t shoot worth a damn

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    I think they'll at the most trade either Keldon or Zach (or I hope so, LOL), while signing a cheap, veteran '3-&-D' wing (Naji Marshall or Haywood Highsmith would be my preference) and a third-string PG (Aaron Holiday possibly) to play behind Jones, Castle and/or Wesley.

    Bringing back one or both of Mamu or Dom Barlow would be nice too.

    This is essentially becoming a off-season wishlist for me. 😄😄😄

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    i dont think people realize just how far off the 2031 pick is from mattering.

    Wemby will be 27 years old at the time of that draft. Jason Tatum has already had years of deep playoff experience, 2 finals appearances, just own his first le... and is 26 years old right now. they both started their NBA careers during their age 19 seasons. of course the celtics were already a solid team when they got tatum so its not apples to apples, but its seemingly been a really long road for tatum, and in this parallel, he wouldnt have even had the benefit of that pick yet.

    while we may not make the playoffs this coming season, if we expect the spurs to start making playoff runs by year 3 of wemby, thats 6 playoff runs BEFORE we even make the 2031 selection.

    then we have to assume the 2031 extra pick is a good/lotto pick

    and then you have to assume that whoever we pick, assuming he pans out, will probably take 2-3 years before he's a real postseason contributor type, which would be when wemby is 30 freakin years old

    that wolves pick better be traded. i know calling it the "dillingham trade" is inaccurate since we dont really know who the spurs would have taken at 8 had the pick not been dealt. but if we traded a top 10 pick now in exchange for someone who hopefully will be good enough to contribute when wemby turns 30, then thats just awful management. i dont know if they will use the 2031 pick in a trade right now this offseason, or wait another year... but anything past that and they are already sabotaging wemby the same way the cavs did lebron

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    I doubt the trade is coming this off season, more likely the next few.

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    I doubt the trade is coming this off season, more likely the next few.
    yeah im getting the feeling they will be all in after they get their number 2 next draft.. this season you can expect small changes for down the road

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    i dont think people realize just how far off the 2031 pick is from mattering.

    Wemby will be 27 years old at the time of that draft. Jason Tatum has already had years of deep playoff experience, 2 finals appearances, just own his first le... and is 26 years old right now. they both started their NBA careers during their age 19 seasons. of course the celtics were already a solid team when they got tatum so its not apples to apples, but its seemingly been a really long road for tatum, and in this parallel, he wouldnt have even had the benefit of that pick yet.

    while we may not make the playoffs this coming season, if we expect the spurs to start making playoff runs by year 3 of wemby, thats 6 playoff runs BEFORE we even make the 2031 selection.

    then we have to assume the 2031 extra pick is a good/lotto pick

    and then you have to assume that whoever we pick, assuming he pans out, will probably take 2-3 years before he's a real postseason contributor type, which would be when wemby is 30 freakin years old

    that wolves pick better be traded. i know calling it the "dillingham trade" is inaccurate since we dont really know who the spurs would have taken at 8 had the pick not been dealt. but if we traded a top 10 pick now in exchange for someone who hopefully will be good enough to contribute when wemby turns 30, then thats just awful management. i dont know if they will use the 2031 pick in a trade right now this offseason, or wait another year... but anything past that and they are already sabotaging wemby the same way the cavs did lebron
    To take your scenario further, imagine Boston adding a high pick next year.

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    I think it's coming, plenty of vets want to hop on the Wemby wagon while they can.

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    I'm not convinced this fo is interested in making a major trade so No vote for me.

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    To take your scenario further, imagine Boston adding a high pick next year.
    This right here.

    The dump seems to have two values:

    - A distant FRP floating around to use in trades alongside the Spurs' own presumably later FRPs. They have enough FRPs in the next three years and no immediate targets yet. Dealing with those picks are a good problem, but adding to the mess decreases their value. Say, if you see a market with Darius Garlands and you don't like Darius Garlands, you don't want to have to trade for a Darius Garland just to use them. If a good target appears, they have years to use a 2031 pick rather than, say, two or three.

    - It's good to have a possibly good pick when the team is presumably good. This is what I've thought of it since cooling down. They probably looked at Minnesota's books, and knew that this is the earliest the Wolves can give up anything. They liked how Utah controls Minnesota's picks until then. The Wolves are the losingest franchise in NBA history. Etc. And so took a calculated risk. I'll call this the Hansel and Gretel Tactic. Way, way down the path of breadcrumbs, they put a mystery box of a care package for themselves that could be way more than breadcrumbs.

    Two things must have converged.

    One, they put out the word that the 8 was up for bid. They wanted to see what happened.

    Two, they didn't like the available players very much.

    At some point, a team came in with an offer that beat out how much, or little, they valued the field. Probably got some bids for picks coming sooner, but these were not that great. SRP packages or late FRPs. In order to get a good enough package, the time slider had to be moved far in the future.

    I personally find it weird as , but also, if they weren't going to take Dillingham, there's only one other player I really rate at that point in the draft, and that's Devin Carter. They probably liked him, but the balance still tipped in the other direction. Maybe Minnesota added the swap or something. But the rest of the players? I see Cody Williams as Keita Bates-Diop. I'm sure Jared McCain or Bub Carrington appealed, but still didn't hit the right calculus. Whatever's going on with the cap is probably part of the whole thought process.

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    To take your scenario further, imagine Boston adding a high pick next year.
    And is Wemby going to suck at 30?

    Weird take from SR21, but I'm fine with trading the future pick too.

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    The truth:

    No trade = the front office botched the #8 dilly pick and got nothing = incompetence

    Trade for an all star = eases their dilly up depending on the particulars of the trade

    period.

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    Is Cooper Flagg any good? I hear that he can’t shoot worth a damn
    I haven't seen much of him yet, but for the very little I've seen, he looks like a skinnier Matas Buzelis. I suppose there's gotta be a lot more to his game.

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    I would bet Cooper Flagg is the Scoot Henderson of this next draft class.

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    The Spurs are very close to the salary they'd need for a Chris Paul trade. Like for example, Graham and Bassey for Paul should work if my understanding of the CBA is correct. Say what you want about big PGs, but we know the Spurs have long had a love affair for Paul, even since they've been on this kick. Graham's and Bassey's guaranteed amounts doesn't matter in such a trade, since their whole salaries already factor into the cap. But I imagine the Warriors would want to avoid his guarantee date if they could.
    in' subscribe tbh.

    Graham and Bassey for Paul? That's a "major trade" I can get behind. Have the Point God teaching Castle the ropes from day 1.

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    I would bet Cooper Flagg is the Scoot Henderson of this next draft class.
    From the film I've watched I have Ace Bailey #1 and Traore #2. Granted I've watched more of them than anyone else so It's probably bias.

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    No

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    My heart says YES and my gut says yes

    My brain has a bit of maybe, thus, I went with yes

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    I've been thinking Chris Paul for a while.

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    I'm trying to think of a third team that could get involved in a Spurs/Hawks deal.

    The idea would be that the third team sends out the assets for Young that they would in a two-team deal with the Hawks, but instead those assets go to the Spurs with the Hawks getting their 2025/2026/2027 draft control back plus salary filler.

    A very rough draft might be:

    Hawks send Young
    Hawks receive their own 2025 and 2027 picks, undo the 2026 swap, Russell, Zollins
    Spurs send ATL 2025/2027, undo 2026 swap, Zollins, Graham
    Spurs receive LAL 2027 protected 1-4, 2029/2031 unprotected, Reaves, Hachimura
    Lakers send 2027 protected 1-4, 2029/2031 unprotected, Russell, Reaves, Hachimura
    Lakers receive Young, Graham

    I'm not saying this is a good deal for everyone, just that it illustrates the framework.
    I would think only the Hawks would do this, but it's close enough that I agree this is the only framework of a "major trade" involving the Spurs that I could see.

    Otherwise, at best we're more than likely looking at the names that have been discussed ad nauseam (Brogdon, Barnes, etc.)

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