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    No we don't need to pay that much. All we need to do is to outbid Warriors. Here is the deal to get it done:

    Keldon; Braham
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    4 SRPs
    The Warriors will be a lottery team when Curry retires and their unprotected picks are worth way more than our 27, 29, and 31 would be. Golden State gets him if that's your best offer. My offer probably beats what they can offer unless Utah really loves Kuminga.

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    Probably a top 5 aquisition. Most NBA stars are too old. The thing about stars is they sometimes get created by being on good teams. Anecdotally he is not a star but in the wembyverse ? All things are possible. This would also ameliorate the non shooting draft picks. If you have to overpay its not a bad target at all.

    The only hiccup is an agreement to extend.


    But MSN being the source probably means this is his agent leaking to extort the jazz to throw a max.

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    Yeah but did he beat out Gabe Vincent?

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    The Warriors will be a lottery team when Curry retires and their unprotected picks are worth way more than our 27, 29, and 31 would be. Golden State gets him if that's your best offer. My offer probably beats what they can offer unless Utah really loves Kuminga.
    Maybe, but Lauri wouldn't extend in that case. I also doubt GSW would be trading unprotected 1sts since they're on the cusp of dismantling the team.

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    CHI '25, CHA '25, MIN '31, worse of SAS/ATL '25 and '27 would be as far as I'd go pick wise.
    Then he goes to Golden State or OKC.

    I'd make Jeremy available and value him equal to one of our own FRPs.
    Wouldn't move the needle for Utah when Sochan is a below replacement level player.

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    I hear Petteri Koponen's draft rights are floating around in the open these days. Let's acquire Lauri Markannen and former Honka Playboy Koponen and Finnish this roster!
    The Spurs are a step ahead of you -- he's a coach on the summer league team

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    Then he goes to Golden State or OKC.

    Wouldn't move the needle for Utah when Sochan is a below replacement level player.
    I think OKC made their moves.
    They're not getting another max player until they see which trajectory Chet and Williams take.
    If they get and max Markkanen, their salaries would be ridiculous when those two extensions kick in and SGA would be in for a massive supermax a year later.

    As for the Warriors, they're surely not dumb to give up post-Steph picks.
    Their only hope is that Ainge really likes Kuminga, Moody and Podziemski.

    Wouldn't move the needle for Utah when Sochan is a below replacement level player.
    Right now he isn't, but maybe they see something in him and value his potential.

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    I really don't understand what a GSW trade for Mark looks like. Are they shipping a package of lottery protected picks (I don't see them shipping off unprotected picks with them losing Klay and CP and with Steph and Draymond entering the twilight of their careers). Are they packaging Kuminga/Podz/Jackson-Davis? That leaves Mark playing with the corpses of Klay and Draymond going forward - why would he extend there, particularly since he's ostensibly tired of being on losing teams. I do think GSW can put together a better package because of Kuminga, but that price seems to cost them the ability to bank on Mark staying there long term.

    In my mind, a team like Orlando makes a ton of sense. They have some youth and picks that could be appealing.

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    Yeah, Lauri would be damn expensive. The Spurs would lose much of their war chest. I think baseline bum is on the right track regarding what it'd take.

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    Yeah, Lauri would be damn expensive. The Spurs would lose much of their war chest. I think baseline bum is on the right track regarding what it'd take.
    You think he's worth it? Would still have our 25 picks and the 28 Boston swap. Definitely risky but that's what stars cost.

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    Yeah, Lauri would be damn expensive. The Spurs would lose much of their war chest. I think baseline bum is on the right track regarding what it'd take.
    And we would need to outbid who?

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    Yeah, Lauri would be damn expensive. The Spurs would lose much of their war chest. I think baseline bum is on the right track regarding what it'd take.
    I don't see the point of giving up our entire war chest for a guy that's going to be a free agent in 12 months. Besides, wouldn't the better sequence be to add a major player with cap space and THEN trade for your last piece using contracts like Keldon Johnson and Zach Collins (plus picks)?

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    I really don't understand what a GSW trade for Mark looks like. Are they shipping a package of lottery protected picks (I don't see them shipping off unprotected picks with them losing Klay and CP and with Steph and Draymond entering the twilight of their careers). Are they packaging Kuminga/Podz/Jackson-Davis? That leaves Mark playing with the corpses of Klay and Draymond going forward - why would he extend there, particularly since he's ostensibly tired of being on losing teams. I do think GSW can put together a better package because of Kuminga, but that price seems to cost them the ability to bank on Mark staying there long term.

    In my mind, a team like Orlando makes a ton of sense. They have some youth and picks that could be appealing.
    I think they'd be banking on trying squeeze one more ring out of Steph knowing it'll likely be 20+ years before they get another player like him and if that's the case unprotected firsts are pretty much all they could offer to entice the Jazz.

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    Around 51:40 Lowe and Marks talk about CP3 and Lauri possibly to the Spurs


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    Empty stats on a bad team. Can't get his team wins.

    Look, again, a couple off-brand picks are fine. But he's due $40 million after this season and has never improved a team he's been on. He is not the player too many people here think he is. I mean, just look at all the teams lining up for his services...
    The Jazz had to belatedly tank because they were winning too much, but ok

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    And we would need to outbid who?
    Golden State and OKC

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    I think they'd be banking on trying squeeze one more ring out of Steph knowing it'll likely be 20+ years before they get another player like him and if that's the case unprotected firsts are pretty much all they could offer to entice the Jazz.
    Right, but if that's the offer, then GSW is leveraging themselves out of a reason for Lauri to extend. Seem's to me like they're facing a Hobson's choice.

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    Maybe, but Lauri wouldn't extend in that case. I also doubt GSW would be trading unprotected 1sts since they're on the cusp of dismantling the team.
    This! Lauri wouldn't extend with warriors. People forgot that Lauri has a say in this process. Warriors won't want to pay more than 2 FRPs just for a one-season rental.

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    This isn’t the same old spurs team. Free agents will want to play here. That could avoid emptying the war chest on an expiring contract.

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    Right, but if that's the offer, then GSW is leveraging themselves out of a reason for Lauri to extend. Seem's to me like they're facing a Hobson's choice.
    This! Lauri wouldn't extend with warriors. People forgot that Lauri has a say in this process. Warriors won't want to pay more than 2 FRPs just for a one-season rental.
    Disagree, Golden State could offer him the fifth year and 8% raises. And I doubt they make the trade without finding if he's willing to sign the 5 year max.

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    This isn’t the same old spurs team. Free agents will want to play here.
    Free agents didn't come when the Spurs won a le and had Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili all 26 and under to match their max cap space, and that was in an era where stars routinely hit free agency.

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    I don't see the point of giving up our entire war chest for a guy that's going to be a free agent in 12 months. Besides, wouldn't the better sequence be to add a major player with cap space and THEN trade for your last piece using contracts like Keldon Johnson and Zach Collins (plus picks)?
    Typically when you acquire a major expiring, there is an agreement already worked out to resign (Siakim). Now if someone actually renegged on such an agreement, not sure where that leaves ya?

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    Golden State and OKC
    Poeple have already posted reasons on this thread why those two aren't the most likely scenarios.

    After spending all that money on the Knicks center, I don't see OKC making another move.

    The Warriors would be dumb to give up unprotected FRPs, tbh.

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    Disagree, Golden State could offer him the fifth year and 8% raises. And I doubt they make the trade without finding if he's willing to sign the 5 year max.
    But why would he want to join a Warriors team that just gave up all their assets to get him?
    Steph is 36, he's got two years left, if that.
    Jazz would surely get Kuminga, what then?

    No assets left, Steph retiring and a bunch of scrubs on the roster.

    It would be solid for the Warriors if they could get him, extend him and then trade him in two years when Steph falls off to get their assets back.
    But if I was Markkanen, I'd rather team up with a superstar who fits his timeline better.

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    s sake man this is TIRED. Stop responding to INDIVIDUALS based on something someone else on a forum may or may not have claimed. People shoudln't have to defend against arguments they never ing made.


    Is there any thread that this doesn't derail? Its so ing annoying.
    Ignore list is a beautiful thing, bro. I'm probably already on yours.

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