I know everyone hates the risk of trading good picks for him, but there's a lot of ing risk sitting on your hands for a year holding cap space open and hoping the guy hits free agency and doesn't care about getting a fifth year. Especially in this era where high end players usually don't hit free agency.
People are always going to be scared of pulling the trigger on big deals but at some point in the near future the Spurs are going to do it. I don't know when is the right time or what is the right price but its highly unlikely everyone will be on board when the Spurs actually do it.
agree. this is what the picks are for.
forget just signing someone into cap space unless you are LA/NY/MIA maybe Boston.
Might be dumber to let Curry's career draw to a close on a whimper with Kuminga his best teammate. Megastars like Curry are exceedingly rare and once he's gone they're just one of 30 teams again like they were for the entire 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s. He's still an amazing player.
For me the only unacceptable risk would be trading away unprotected picks before we're a playoff team even without Wemby.
If Wemby got injured and we trade away our own '25 od '26 picks, it would be a disaster of monumental proportions.
I'd hope we're a play-in team even without Wemby in '27 and later, so trading away those picks wouldn't be as bad even if we have a bad season for whatever reason.
I hope the Spurs don't overpay for Lauri, which would be easy to do in either assets or the contract he eventually would want
He's not a max player, though close, and shouldn't be costing more than a couple of nice firsts and a bunch of seconds considering he's on his last year
Sure, his existing team can offer an additional year on his long-term contract that another team could not offer.
Of course, they could potentially also just do a S&T next offseason and get that extra year and send a lot fewer assets away in that trade.
Exactly, especially when dealing with that GM, makes no sense.
If the Warriors are in, then there's no reason to sweat it. Nothing will have more value than a Warriors unprotected FRP 3 years from now.
The Spurs could, but it'd be too costly. This is where Ainge thrives, he tries to create a bidding war and sucks desperate teams dry. If GSW want to go crazy, let them. Spurs will have plenty of opportunities, including for Lauri himself maybe as soon as next offseason.
Kuminga + 2029 unprotected 1st is a home run if Ainge can swing that tbh.
I wonder how much including Dev and while taking back John Collin's contract would impact outgoing draft capitol?
Without including Dev and not taking back Collins's contract:
Spurs Get:
Lauri
Jazz Get:
Sochan
Most favorable of the 26 picks.
27 Hawks Pick
Most favorable of 2030 picks
2031 Wolves and Spurs picks unprotected.
Second Deal:
Spurs Get:
Lauri
John Collins contract. 2 years 51M left.
Jazz Get:
Dev
Sochan
2026 and 2027 Hawks pick
2031 Wolves pick.
Dev has the value of one first rounder and taking back Collins also has the value of a one first round pick. Not sure how much value Sochan really has since his jumper still looks broken AF.
Shout out to whomever brought this up, but that MIN 30 Swap and 31 FRP could be the real key here - as it would extend Ainge's control over Utah's drafts another two years. That could be huge in negotiating that deal. In which case, I will have to tip my hat and apologize to this FO for my very loud criticism of trading out of #8. That would indeed be some 4d chess .
C'mon PAFTO, now's not the time to spoil your adult diapers. ing man up, this is what all these picks are for.
Do they only pay state taxes for home games? I would think it would be all 82.
If that's the case, do they pay state income tax for each state they visit when on the road? If that's the case then quite a few of those games are still in California anyways with 4 Western Conference teams in California.
Why not just sign Laury next off season?
This is why I'm skeptical of Lauri re-signing there. If Kuminga + Podz + Moody are gone, along with all of their draft capital, Lauri wouldn't stay, regardless of the money.
I'd go ahead and dispel any notion of Markannen hitting 2025 free agency tbh. It'll be an OG situation where that extension is pretty much verbally agreed to. Any team trading for him would definitely secure that before pulling the trigger, especially given what Ainge will ask for in a trade.
If the Spurs whiff on a Markannen trade this summer, they're not getting him next year tbh.
I think that's right - so games in Texas and Florida aren't burdened with state income tax.
Id like a Markkanen deal significantly less if it meant sending out Devin. That doesn't make much sense for either team IMO.
im out on Lauri if we are moving Vassell
No
It's going to cost the Atlanta picks. Those picks are going to get the Spurs some good to great players. Be patient until at least after next year.
See what they land in next year's draft and then work to add to that core.
He's clearly a max player. PG13 just signed a 35% max FA deal and Markannen offers a similar level of production while in his mid 20s instead of mid 30s like George. Whether he's worth more than say the Spurs 26 + Hawks 27 on an expiring I guess is debatable, but I'd expect Utah to get a pretty aggressive offer from Golden State with their own unprotected picks.
Ainge will fleece any team trading for him, so its a no from me.
iirc the tax is based on where the game is played. That means Spurs players will pay CA state income tax on 6/82 or 7/82 of their salary depending on the schedule.
Since the CA teams are all in the same division, players on those teams pay the tax on 47/82 games: 41 home games plus 2 road games at each of the other CA arenas.
I think NY has this too, and maybe IL? Those don't matter so much for West teams.
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