2024 NBA Off-Season Thread (FA, Trades, Extensions, Rumors)

[DAF86]

They are in position to demand a ransom, because someone will pay it; that's how these things work.

He's not getting to UFA in a true sense. It'll be like Siakam, Anunoby and others, where he'll be traded to a team he's going to re-sign with.

Obviously debatable whether the Spurs should be that team. I'm with you in saying they shouldn't because if/when they blow their load, it should be on a perimeter player, preferably with size.

But make no mistake, whenever and for whoever, they're going to feel pain.

I'm not so sure about that. Which team do you see paying that much for Markkanen? People are talking about the Warriors and OKC, but I just don't see it. The Warriors might in a desperate attempt to give Curry one last window but they would be comitting a huge mistake, imho.

[Spurs Homer]

lol

getting portis is asking for trouble -
i can already see him punching out chris paul...

[spurraider21]

Utah may be overplaying their hand the same way Toronto did with OG

[MannyIsGod]

Caruso didn’t go out in a dump. There was a credible return. DD puts up numbers,but doesn’t really affect winning. Recall the year we offloaded him in a salary dump. We didn’t miss a beat on the treadmill, having close to the same record with Dejounte running the plays.

Credible return? That was an awful trade. And if you don't think DDR helps them win then IDK what to tell you but watch as they trade him and get substantially worse the following year.

[Mr. Body]

Utah may be overplaying their hand the same way Toronto did with OG

Right here.

I think Ainge is panicking. While everyone here wants to give up huge bags and Utah fans think they can get Sochan, Vassell, and Castle, Ainge may be realizing he has an expiring contract and no one really bidding much for it.

Why would you give him the farm if you can just wait a year? If you need to clear cap space just use cheaper assets to clear the space.

Could be stuff going on about Darius Garland and so on, but the market seems dead. The costs are too high for these flawed players.

[Mr. Body]

Oh, and why would Markkanen resign with Utah? They've not come close to wanting to win games and that's not going to change.

[TD 21]

I'm not so sure about that. Which team do you see paying that much for Markkanen? People are talking about the Warriors and OKC, but I just don't see it. The Warriors might in a desperate attempt to give Curry one last window but they would be comitting a huge mistake, imho.

Probably the Warriors and who knows who else.

The way it's been reported for a long time is that he'd be in such high demand if he ever came available to the point where someone would have to pay a ransom.

[ace3g]

[CGD]

Damn, one of these days we’ll hear why things got so toxic between Klay and the Warriors organization. Sounds like the cuts were deep.

[timtonymanu]

Another big 3 that the spurs big 3 outlasted >>>

[Chinook]

I think the Warriors were holding out hope they could get this wrapped into something like a Markkanen deal. Klay's outgoing salary has to be pretty close to Mark's contract, especially when combined with Kuminga or Looney. Since you can't combined a TE, it would be in GS' best interest to explore all options before this gets finalized in a few days.

[Pauleta14]

Damn, one of these days we’ll hear why things got so toxic between Klay and the Warriors organization. Sounds like the cuts were deep.

[Chinook]

So what would folks think about Randle? With OG and Bridges, it feels like this time in New York is done. He seems like he'd be a good piece for the Bucks if their intention really is to go smaller and younger for Lopez. But the second apron makes that tricky. The Bucks can't do a one-for-one because Randle makes more than Lopez, but they're not allowed to add another player in the deal either. It's a shame, because I think that would be a rare trade where both teams could get what they want. But if the Spurs really are looking for a scoring power-forward, they could probably get Randle for a good deal.

[Mr. Body]

Damn, one of these days we’ll hear why things got so toxic between Klay and the Warriors organization. Sounds like the cuts were deep.

They always seemed like a toxic organization.

[Mugen]

@ the hit pieces starting to come out from both sides.

[Mr. Body]

GSW has to decide if they want to do a big pick package for the Finn or they're done, nothing left.

I'm not sure OKC is interested in a defensive negative like Markkanen.

If so that's it. Other teams will nibble to see if there's a bargain, but no one's liable to really bid right now.

[timtonymanu]

Klay always came across as an en led little baby. I do kinda feel for Steph cause he doesn’t seem about that drama, but at the same time I don’t feel sorry for him. I’ll never forget their cheap path to les by signing Durant.

[CGD]

So what would folks think about Randle? With OG and Bridges, it feels like this time in New York is done. He seems like he'd be a good piece for the Bucks if their intention really is to go smaller and younger for Lopez. But the second apron makes that tricky. The Bucks can't do a one-for-one because Randle makes more than Lopez, but they're not allowed to add another player in the deal either. It's a shame, because I think that would be a rare trade where both teams could get what they want. But if the Spurs really are looking for a scoring power-forward, they could probably get Randle for a good deal.

Think they’re largely done on this front, but the wildcard is that Graham deal. I’d look for a “bad fit/second act” guy on another team who has a larger salary. For example, I have posited a DeAndre Hunter type in the past (though the well with ATL specifically seems poisoned for now), who could slide in to the SF role day 1.

[RC_Drunkford]

Light years ahead

[objective]

So what would folks think about Randle? With OG and Bridges, it feels like this time in New York is done. He seems like he'd be a good piece for the Bucks if their intention really is to go smaller and younger for Lopez. But the second apron makes that tricky. The Bucks can't do a one-for-one because Randle makes more than Lopez, but they're not allowed to add another player in the deal either. It's a shame, because I think that would be a rare trade where both teams could get what they want. But if the Spurs really are looking for a scoring power-forward, they could probably get Randle for a good deal.

I've thought about him a lot. I think he could be had cheap because the Knicks are on Tilt. Maybe just Zollins and a protected first and some seconds.

Don't love Randle, but as a reliable pro, he could be a nice grown up. Player option for another year though so no extra room next year, in fact lose 10+ million in space

[ace3g]

[daslicer]

Klay always came across as an en led little baby. I do kinda feel for Steph cause he doesn’t seem about that drama, but at the same time I don’t feel sorry for him. I’ll never forget their cheap path to les by signing Durant.

I never will feel bad for Steph since he was the biggest enabler of Draymond's thuggery.

[Notorious H.O.P.]

Not sure how to post an image or imbed a tweet, but Bobby Marks has a good post on Twitter.
one of the rules for 2nd apron is the apron team can’t aggregate ongoing salaries, ie can only send out a single player at a time.
Personally im really going to enjoy these new rules, I think teams that exceed the cap should be punished harshly- set their franchise back years instead of just money to a billionaire who doesn’t care.
That’s about to happen. Another good one is teams are over 2nd apron can’t trade their pick 7 yrs out, if over twice in 4 yrs have their 1st rd pick moved to last in the 1st rd (30th pick 6 yrs out).

This will also give teams that operate under the cap a great shot to get real value for taking on bad contracts.
In this light, think the Spurs are being very smart. Having cap space can get you a FA, a negative value player/contract + assets, or maybe a really good player that a team simply can’t afford to keep for various tax/penalty reasons.

So if Minnesota triggers the penalty to have their first round pick moved to the end of the round, how would that work for teams like us who may have traded for that pick far in advance? I assume there is no consideration for who the pick is owed to. Does anyone have any insight on that?

[ace3g]

[timtonymanu]

I never will feel bad for Steph since he was the biggest enabler of Draymond's thuggery.

It’s nice seeing them humbled, they had no problem flexing themselves when they were invincible and the moment they go through adversity that they can’t blame on injuries, they melt down and break apart. Can’t go to their clutch of having the commissioner in their back pocket to bail them out anymore. Well deserved, tbh.