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    It is nothing so profound. You lack confidence in a favorable outcome and have your strategy to hedge against it.
    You can only believe I favor a conservative roster build because you don't read anything I write. I spilled thousands of words talking about scenarios where the Spurs were significantly more aggressive than anything they are in a position to do now.

    I'm glad though that we're off the idea of fear and are now talking about confidence. However, the Spurs have not indicated they WANT to accelerate this year, so it doesn't make sense to frame it as a confidence thing either. Do the Spurs expect to improve to the point where they want to make a win-now trade? We don't know that. So what should one be confident in: the idea that the Spurs FO is in a win-now mindset or confident that the roster will perform well enough to where the team will be in a win-now position whether the FO wants it or not?

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    Just curious, what’s everyone’s thoughts on Keldon going further? He seems like the odd man out but I feel like he had to sacrifice more than anyone last season. I think the Sochan PG experiment hurt his production at the start of the season pretty significantly.
    I think it's more his new 6th man role that he stugled with. I'm waiting to see if he gets better a it to have a definitive judgement.

    Other than that his main + is his decreasing contract that makes him an attractive asset.

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    You can only believe I favor a conservative roster build because you don't read anything I write. I spilled thousands of words talking about scenarios where the Spurs were significantly more aggressive than anything they are in a position to do now.

    I'm glad though that we're off the idea of fear and are now talking about confidence. However, the Spurs have not indicated they WANT to accelerate this year, so it doesn't make sense to frame it as a confidence thing either. Do the Spurs expect to improve to the point where they want to make a win-now trade? We don't know that. So what should one be confident in: the idea that the Spurs FO is in a win-now mindset or confident that the roster will perform well enough to where the team will be in a win-now position whether the FO wants it or not?
    I am talking management strategies and you are taking it all personal. Relax.

    You want to hold on to the chance to tank with Wemby already on the roster because you are concerned about a negative performance.

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    You want to hold on to the chance to tank with Wemby already on the roster because you are concerned about a negative performance.
    Saying inaccurate things impersonally doesn't stop them from being inaccurate.

    The FO needs to react to the team they have. They've clearly shown that inclination by giving Paul the deal they did. As has been mentioned, his contract is very deliberate to allow him to be waived with no hindrance to his next team. Reporting has come out that the Spurs have made their moves this summer with 2025 flexibility in mind. They punted on a top-10 draft pick to save money and roster spots for who I consider to be lesser players. They made choices to not necessarily build the most compe ive team they could have in the near team. Saying they need to see how the decisions they made affect their team and how the season as a whole affects other potential trade targets is far more complicated than boiling it down to fear, confidence or concern would allow.

    If the team waits, not only can it see how its players are going to perform and thus know how much win-now investment would make sense. They'd also have a chance to bring in talent for less cost than they would pay right now. Ex thinks Utah is worried about Graham's guarantee date for some reason. But if the Jazz let the Markkanen situation linger past the floor deadline, they lose their ability to renegotiate and extend him. At that point, he's a pure expiring and isn't going to go for anywhere near what people are talking about now. So would the Spurs playing for that scenario be a matter of fear or foresight? Would paying twice as much be more virtuous?

    I am talking management strategies and you are taking it all personal. Relax.
    This is complicated stuff, and because we're randos with no insight into the team's thoughts, all we can do is talk about the many different ways the team can approach these situations. This has nothing to do with personal or impersonal. It's about accurate and inaccurate. What you said didn't align with the many posts I've made on the topic, and the conclusions you drew weren't supported by the post you quoted. A poster made a whole confusing thread built entirely on the premise that I was too aggressive in what I wanted the team to do this summer. It's almost like that Andrew Neil/Ben Shapiro thing.

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    Feels like Zack Collins would be getting one of these 3 years for 27M deals like fathead. PATFO made a poor decision on that contract extension, I still think he will play better next year.

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    Saying inaccurate things impersonally doesn't stop them from being inaccurate.
    I think it makes more sense for them to go into the year to see how much improvement the team shows with Paul and the react to that. If they're still in tanking condition, trade Paul and hope to not up the draft.
    IOW, you want to make sure if the team does not improve, you can still tank.

    I stopped reading after the first sentence because it is muchado about something else.

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    Did Chinook bang Wilt’s mom?

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    Did Chinook bang Wilt’s mom?
    Odds are I banged yours, son.

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    lol!!! Shame on you!!!!

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    Will this eliminate them out of the Lauri sweepstakes?

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    I was just watching Buddy Hield highlights and thinking why has nobody signed him yet lol something has to be brewing with the spurs because it makes no sense that we didn’t target any shooting in free agency.

    Also the whole Devonte Graham situation is confusing, business is business but why would graham and his camp agree to move his deadline date back to July 8th, money is gonna be tied by then for the entire nba and less roster spots available as well for him.

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    Will this eliminate them out of the Lauri sweepstakes?
    What I have seen by some capologist folks online: no, it won't.

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    I don't think they have any interest in taking Mark into cap space.
    Pray tell why not?

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    It is nothing so profound. You lack confidence in a favorable outcome and have your strategy to hedge against it.
    Congratulations. You’ve just described ST to a ‘T’.

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    What I have seen by some capologist folks online: no, it won't.
    Would depend on what his new contract numbers would be, but Hield made 22MM last year. Even assuming that number went down to 15 or something, that would still put GSW into the first apron, so all of those restrictions would apply to an eventual Lauri trade. If Wiggins goes out and Lauri’s 18MM or so comes back, that could still work based on my math, but it’s getting harder for GSW to make moves

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    Odds are I banged yours, son.
    1/10000

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    I was just watching Buddy Hield highlights and thinking why has nobody signed him yet lol something has to be brewing with the spurs because it makes no sense that we didn’t target any shooting in free agency.

    Also the whole Devonte Graham situation is confusing, business is business but why would graham and his camp agree to move his deadline date back to July 8th, money is gonna be tied by then for the entire nba and less roster spots available as well for him.
    There’s a chance he goes out in trade, and his full deal will have to be guaranteed for that to happen. That’s worth a bit of a wait.

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    Pray tell why not?
    Because he'll either be too much salary or they'll need to jettison salary to be able to renegotiate themselves. Either way, they'll want to send out the salary as part of a Mark trade rather than absorb him with space.

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    Did Chinook bang Wilt’s mom?
    I figure that account is someone's alt. They're resorting to "didnt read lol" strats from like 10 years ago.

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    Warriors out there working on big moves despite being capped out while our front office is hunting for draft picks next decade. Awesome

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    Warriors out there working on big moves despite being capped out while our front office is hunting for draft picks next decade. Awesome
    Would you swap their situation with ours?

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    What about him? Good all around and 3pts shooter...


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    What about him? Good all around and 3pts shooter...

    Is he up for a mega deal from Real? Seems like a leverage play

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