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but they can't extend him for the max can they? Somebody here said it's only for a certain percentage of the 18 million he's earning now. Markkanen would never sign that type of deal.
Agreed. Spurs shouldn't help Ainge put Markkanen out of their reach by entering a bidding war and inflating his value, if he's serious about trading Lauri then sit and negotiate directly with the Spurs' FO, if you want to play games then FO.
but they can't extend him for the max can they? Somebody here said it's only for a certain percentage of the 18 million he's earning now. Markkanen would never sign that type of deal.
APPARENTLY, they can renegotiate to give Mark a pay raise, then use the increased salary as the basis for the extension. My brains are basically leaking out of my ears at this point. But if that's true, teams are looking at this as either Lauri on a long-term deal but with a higher (and harder-to-match) salary for this year or Lauri at a rather-easy-to-match salary but without the assurance of him already being signed to a long-term deal.
I don’t think he re-signs there. He hasn’t been thrilled with two years of tanking. Why would he sign up for more? Signing there puts him on Danny’s timeline, not his own.
Are the Spurs now the only game in town after the moves by the Kings (assume DeRozan ends up there) and Warriors?
In addition to the renegotiate and extend scenario that Chinook laid out and the ramifications, I'm not entirely sure that teams would prefer for Utah to be (effectively) negotiating their guy's extension. Then you're stuck with whatever Utah comes up with, no creativity in how you structure yours (if it's going to be anything less than max money for max years... if that is the case, then maybe it doesn't matter other than the extra difficulty of finding matching salary). Teams may rather prefer to have that wink-wink assurance of an extension (Siakam/OG type deal) so they can control it.
Also... Ainge/Zanik may want to trade him off before renegotiate-and-extend, because they don't want to have to take the matching salary back. If they're going to tank (which they should), they probably want to operate right at the salary floor, with the option to absorb bad contracts for compensation later.
I think Ainge get's his best return trading Lauri before 8/6, with Lauri's buy-in that he'll extend with that team. Then teams will give their best offers with the confidence that they can resign him.
Nothing Warriors have done takes them out of the Lauri hunt (if they want). They can still find matching salary for Lauri quite easily.
Getting tired of this saga at this point but fwiwBased on this it appears GS isn’t wanting to include Kuminga, but Utah isn’t budging for only two FRPs.
Ainge really think his is chocolate sundae.
On the other hand, apparently Kuminga and two firsts is good enough.
Getting tired of this saga at this point but fwiw
"We have a heavily pick-based offer for you Danny but one problem; our offer isn't pick-heavy."
Getting tired of this saga at this point but fwiw
Ainge milking this, as this is the most the Jazz will be talked about all year. He'll be able to go in front of ownership with a report of the value of the earned media and media mentions he generated throughout the year. Maybe he'll get a raise and he too can elevate to the echelons of highest paid FO member without delivering any actual basketball results.
that's what I'm saying. The Spurs would most likely want to frontload his salary as much as possible and renegotiate to pay him a portion of it in this season. Makes much more sense.
Getting tired of this saga at this point but fwiw
If it ends up only going for 2 unprotected plus one protected, we can easily beat that, and if Ainge took that, it would frankly be a little upsetting if we didn't beat it.that's what I'm saying. The Spurs would most likely want to frontload his salary as much as possible and renegotiate to pay him a portion of it in this season. Makes much more sense.
SA30 + MIN31 + SA27 all unprotected beat that.
You could also do SA30 + MIN31 + SA27 (Top 8 protected) + CHI25 to beat that.
Maybe even SA30 + MIN31 + Worst of SA/ATL27 + CHI.
Again, I'm assuming that SA30 and MIN31 are givens because of the unique control it will give Utah over MIN.
End this madness Warriors, please!
Getting tired of this saga at this point but fwiw
SA 27, MIN 31, CHI 25, CHA 25. That's 2 unprotected and 2 protected ones, although the CHA is likely 2 second rounders, but who cares. That + Keldon is the absolute max I would offer them.
Article is behind a paywall, but it sounds like Stein checked with the league office and confirmed 8/6 is the beginning date of when Lauri can sign his extension.
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It would be highly dumb to deal with Utah until that 08/06 date, unless you are truly desperate (Warriors with Steph) or the price comes way down (tbd).
Call Ainge’s bluff.
Utah almost has to trade Lauri this summer if that deadline info is true. Hopefully they settle on something shortly after the holiday. 2030 swaps, 2031 Minny pick, Bulls pick and CHA pick plus Sochan?
Ainge says that but he just added 2 more PF on top of Collins and Hendricks.
Damn if GSW can only offer two unprotected FRP the Spurs might be able to swing this deal with only one of the ATL picks, the 2030 SAS + MIN/DAL swaps, the 2031 MIN, and a lesser pick like the 2025 CHI plus salary filler.
Getting tired of this saga at this point but fwiw
What about the Graham's dealine? (the 8/7)?
It could be the Spurs's too
We're using American methodology on these dates. Graham's date is 7/8 (July 8), Lauri's is 8/6 (Aug 6)
You lose the ability to include Graham as cheap salary cap fodder after July 7th.
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