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    Maybe the Spurs can sign Manu and Barlow with the Room Exception
    Music to the ears of everyone who called for the Spurs to turn over as much of the roster as possible from 2022-2023.

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    Music to the ears of everyone who called for the Spurs to turn over as much of the roster as possible from 2022-2023.
    If only we could get rid of Collins.

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    Getting an unprotected swap and a veteran player for jack is a good move. Now if they can get Lauri Markkanen by giving up some of the assets they have amassed and trading Keldon..that would be a perfect offseason. A team with CP3, Vassell, Sochan, Markkanen, Wemby and Jones, Castle, Champagnie, Barnes, Collins can make it to the playoffs. Let's see.

    But even without Lauri..getting these assets and a vet player is a net win
    No. It signals that they never were interested in Lauri. Barnes is a National Geographic photo of the kid getting eaten by a vulture version of Lauri. This trade shows they weren’t interested in Lauri.i want you to be (Brian) right, but nothing in recent history leads me to think that way. This franchise is set on contending in the 2030’s the present be damned.

    This is all gonna be laughable when Wemby leaves in 2027

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    It looks like Spurs don't have enough cap space to do both this trade and signing Paul to the reported $11M/1 year deal. Maybe they will do another trade or maybe they will structure Paul's deal differently (2 years contract with a second year partially guaranteed). Another option might be to cut Champagnie.

    The swap is great and Barnes is a decent vet. What Spurs are really giving up is 2025 cap space. I haven't really look at the 2025 free agent class so I don't know how much of a "sacrifice" it is.

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    Make no mistake, Pop had a hand in this trade because he wanted to help Demar. And don't you dare boo.

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    He definitely didn't fit as well next to Sabonis but he's not really a net negative player. Historically he's been a slightly above average NBA player. It cost the Spurs nothing other than cap space. I honestly think its good for young players not to walk into start spots. They need to actually compete for them. This team will be close to .500 next year which is excellent for development purposes.
    His OBPM is -.6 and DBPM is -1.2. He’s a net negative player. And 32. And was playing with a better team than Wemby + flotsam

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    Damn, an unprotected 20131 pick swap from the Kings too? Awesome stuff. I don't even know why the Kings were willing to do this trade for DeRozan but I guess that PPG number is an irresistible Siren.

    The Spurs getting lottery picks during Wemby's prime? @ NBA

    I didn't love Barnes' second year but that pick swap makes this a no-brainer. Sure, Barnes is semi washed but a three-point shooting forward who is regarded as a top flight character guy? Nice fit for an up-and-coming team.
    The Kings really struggled closing out games and when their threes weren't falling, they didn't have a lot of options. DDR isn't a superb fit, but those are things he excels at. He's really good down the stretches of games and he can manufacture points out of nothing. I really like the move overall.

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    It looks like Spurs don't have enough cap space to do both this trade and signing Paul to the reported $11M/1 year deal. Maybe they will do another trade or maybe they will structure Paul's deal differently (2 years contract with a second year partially guaranteed). Another option might be to cut Champagnie.

    The swap is great and Barnes is a decent vet. What Spurs are really giving up is 2025 cap space. I haven't really look at the 2025 free agent class so I don't know how much of a "sacrifice" it is.
    Even though someone reported (Woj iirc) that the Spurs were making their moves with the 2025 offseason in mind, their actions show that the 2026 offseason is the real target here.

    I wonder if the Spurs will offer something like $20M over 2 years to Paul instead to make the cap numbers work for the Barnes trade. Maybe have only $2M of the second season guaranteed so that if the Spurs cut him, Paul still gets more than what the Spurs promised him ($11M for 1 year).

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    Any kings top 3 protected pick is gold. Worth a mediocre contract.

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    Make no mistake, Pop had a hand in this trade because he wanted to help Demar. And don't you dare boo.
    I would never boo DeMar. He did everything he could to help the Spurs when he was here.

    What bothers me more is the the Spurs haven't let anyone have jersey #2 since the Number Two debacle. If you think Spurs fans booing Number Two at the line made Pop mad, imagine what would happen if #2 went into the rafters. Has a player ever been booed throughout their own jersey retirement ceremony?

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    Harrison Barnes is like Chris Paul, for those wondering about the fit. It doesn't matter so much that he's no longer an incredible player. He provides a structural fit to the team, a guy who will know what to do and how to act within the team environment at a high level. The young players have struggled with this. Getting a guy on the court who is dependable cuts down on collective mistakes. This is huge for overall development.

    A lot of problems last year couldn't be fixed by vets on the floor, because there were no vets on the floor. Just having a strong pro or two is going to be massive.

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    Trade kicker is paid by the team trading the player, not the team receiving. So could this save Champ?
    While the real world money is paid by the outgoing team, the on paper cap number is on the sheet if the receiving team, so no help there

    Unless Barnes agrees to waive the kicker

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    Any kings top 3 protected pick is gold. Worth a mediocre contract.
    It's a swap for a middle schooler, still good. But won't matter for awhile

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    Barnes for free, I'll take it
    Even better, we'e getting paid to get him!

    Honestly great job by PATFO

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    Who do we need to renounce to take this mediocre piece of on? The only silver lininig is that we’re making another move sending out Keldon/Blake/Branhamfor less salary to keep Champ or Mamu.

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    Kings gave up an unprotected pick swap in 2032. That’s an insane risk just to clear up cap space for DDR.

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    Barnes’s contract going through 2026 isn’t ideal but his contract isn’t that bad. Even if he looks like he did last year, the Spurs could likely find a suitor without having to give up too much. Not like he’s making 30MM or something.

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    Man, good . If those 2030-1 draft assets aren’t used in trades, then having those picks during Wemby’s prime will be great. Imagine if we had lotto picks during the Big 3’s prime

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    Harrison Barnes is like Chris Paul, for those wondering about the fit. It doesn't matter so much that he's no longer an incredible player. He provides a structural fit to the team, a guy who will know what to do and how to act within the team environment at a high level. The young players have struggled with this. Getting a guy on the court who is dependable cuts down on collective mistakes. This is huge for overall development.

    A lot of problems last year couldn't be fixed by vets on the floor, because there were no vets on the floor. Just having a strong pro or two is going to be massive.


    This dude was never an incredible player.

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    Vy65 being vocal about such a minor move is a sign of a troll in plain sight. Nobody should fall for it

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    July is mental health awareness month. Glad we could help Depression keep winning after that feature in Kendrick’s video

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    Make no mistake, Pop had a hand in this trade because he wanted to help Demar. And don't you dare boo.
    wonder if there was a sigh of relief too. If Demar didn’t work out for the kings and Pop felt a sense of responsibility to sign him… Demar is one of my favorite players, but he def doesn’t fit this team. Was seriously worried for a minute

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    No. It signals that they never were interested in Lauri. Barnes is a National Geographic photo of the kid getting eaten by a vulture version of Lauri. This trade shows they weren’t interested in Lauri.i want you to be (Brian) right, but nothing in recent history leads me to think that way. This franchise is set on contending in the 2030’s the present be damned.

    This is all gonna be laughable when Wemby leaves in 2027
    Wemby leaving in 2027 is an assumption. The best way to build around Wemby is to build the Spurs quickly into contending for ar least the playoffs while amassing assets to quickly get into contending for the rings soon. This move helps the first step. Barnes isn't great shakes but he has a good 3P%, is durable and willing to play to the coach's playbook. He should help the Spurs reach the play in (taken along with CP3 plus Wemby, Vassell and Sochan progression).

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    great move by wright.. they were never giving up big assets this yr you can expect another move like this tbh

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    His OBPM is -.6 and DBPM is -1.2. He’s a net negative player. And 32. And was playing with a better team than Wemby + flotsam
    The average NBA player has a negative BPM. You can have a negative BPM and still be above average. That's why he doesn't have a negative VORP.

    Saying he's a net negative player doesn't mean he's a bad acquisition. Spurs aren't going to field very many net positive players at this stage of the development process.

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