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Yeah. If this swap doesn’t convey it meant wemby already left for the lakers so who cares at that point
We need role players, that's the entire point.
As for Lauri, I'll be really disappointed if someone else gets him.
Until then, we wait for Ainge to overplay his cards, the asking price will start to drop.
Yeah. If this swap doesn’t convey it meant wemby already left for the lakers so who cares at that point
I'm pulling a Stein on this one: I called this (mentioned Barnes as far back as the "Spurs trade ideas"). Not Wojnarowski, not Charania, not timvp, me . . . and don't you forget it.
No. We ing need talent. We’re aligned on Lauri. He’d be a great #2. I’ll eat all the crow if we get him on top of the Barnes deal. But I’ve seen enough from this front office to know that we’re done for the offseason after this deal.
After a quick look at the 2025 free agent class, I like this trade more.
Top 2025 unrestricted free agents:
Jamal Murray, Jalen Brunson, Lauri Markkanen, Brandon Ingram, Julius Randle, Aaron Gordon, Myles Turner, Naz Reid, Alex Caruso.
Murray, Brunson and Markkanen should all be extended before hitting free agency. Gordon and Caruso might be too extended.
Ingram, Randle, Turner or Reid are pretty much the best Spurs could have hoped to get next summer as free agents. Not that great...
There likely isn't going to be any traction on this till Aug.
It's a waiting game. Going full tilt in a trade with Utah now is stupid.
Wait till extension date arrives then see if Lauri wants to stay in Utah.
Leverage in a trade talks move forward then.
As of right now Ainge is asking something ridiculous for Lauri
Ya. Even if Spurs need more cap space Collins or Barnes should easily be able to be moved. But even with Barnes Spurs still project to have a ton of cap space. It’s just not a functional issue although technically it is a trade off for sure.
One of the biggest problems for this team was a low BBIQ. The guards got their coach on the floor and now the forwards do too. Sochan needs to soak in as much as possible. He is the big winner of the Barnes trade as it might save his career.
Hoarding pick swaps lol
2026 Hawks (unprotected)
2028 Celtics (top-1 protected)
2030 Mavericks (unprotected)
2030 Timberwolves (top-1 protected)
2031 Kings (unprotected)
Spurs kept (and added to) their draft war chest, still have ample cap space with ability to get as much as they need pretty easily, replaced Graham + Cedi with CP + Barnes and drafted a high upside player in Castle.
I mean, it’s damn near perfect other than an off season where Spurs successfully swing for fences and land another for sure all star that fits great and push pedal down on winning now. But that didnt seem to be the plan so for this type of plan, which was by far the most likely, this is very solid execution. It’s not sexy, its not something that gets headlines, but it accomplishes many goals and moves team forward and has them setup quite beautifully to keep developing the guys that matter and start winning next 2 years or so.
I get wanting more and to go all in, but this was always a the most viable path IMO and no, IMO they shouldn’t be outright tankin anymore. If Wemby picks up a knock early in the season (god forbid) then sure you can pivot to that. But you dont go on planning on that anymore.
Also, Castle, if he pops and is the guy we hope he can be? Man, Spurs are going to be looking so so good moving forward
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Now this is something I agree with you on at this point pick a path and be all in if you keep one foot in and one foot out you just build a sub 500 team long term
The Spurs will open cap space in 2026 to sign De'Aaron Fox. The Kings will have to tank and the value of the 2031 swap will increase.
Indeed. Ingram, Randle aren't the best fits for Wemby. Mid range/high usage players. Reid and Turner are stretch bigs and might be useful but Turner will likely be extended by the Pacers (he is their new Jeff Foster) and Reid will be too expensive. 2026 is a better time, yes. And I hope some of the overextended (by salaries/caps/aprons) teams will have to shed one of their stars by then too. Here's looking at Boston for e.g. which might have to shed White or Holiday or even Brown by 2026 for sure.
I am beginning to like the Spurs vision after the CP3, Barnes additions and the extra picks/swaps. Giving up the 8th pick now makes a load of sense.
A swap is not a guaranteed pick, and Sacramento had firsts to send. They weren't absent firsts like a some teams.
Early speculation by posters here had hoped for a pick that could be used in a Lauri trade, possibly preserving some of the other assets. And I liked the sound of that as someone who was not excited but the Lauri trade rumors, that made sense. But swap rights can't be traded unless I'm mistaken, only the entire pick itself can be.
Does it improve the roster? Probably, if they keep Bassey or Barlow or get another third string center.
But the reality is they did DeRozan the favor of eating $40 million in cap space and all they have to show for it is a swap. $40 million including having to burn off cheap contracts they liked our a second on Graham should have been worth a first straight up, not a swap
Swap is not a pick, but trading 2031 SAS/SAC has way more value than just 2031 SAS with Wemby in his prime.
Still going with the whining I see.
Oh noes the Spurs made a move that in no way prevents or precludes a trade with Utah.
Now, what I would LOVE to see is Spurs take Barnes + Blake Wesley + that Spurs/Kings swap and use that package we just got to get Cam Johnson. He fits better as a starter and would functionally act like getting Cam Johnson for “free” in free agency vs giving up a pick for him
But I know that’s too much GM’ing
Would have preferred Huerter but I guess that's why the swap was included. Pretty good transaction flipping the Graham trade into Barnes and a first round swap.
Best I can do is 10 vy65 posts.
what did we put in the deal? don't we have to include SOMETHING?
This is the franchise that drafted Bagley over Doncic and thought cherry picking playing 4-on-5 with one player waiting at the basket was a reasonable NBA defense.
Spurs kind of used booting the #8 pick to get yet another pick swap.
rented out our cap space.
Wemby/ZC
Sochan/Kj
Barnes/Branham
Dev/Castle
CP3/Tre
Not going to lie, that’s a pretty solid team
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