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    What does this mean for Mamu? Was really hoping to see him stay on the team. Didn't get to see much of him last year but the little I saw, I liked.
    Nothing really. If spurs want him back and he wants to be here it’s very likely to still happen.

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    This offseason is a lesson in smart prudent moves that improve your team without unloading serious draft capital. This is how you give Wemby some feeling that he can compete while still preserving the concept of patiently building the team.
    I'm not sure that Wemby is going to "compete" with two veteran players who are only in SA cause the teams they were on thought they were better off without them. Still a hug win for the Spurs since we shouldn't be seeing much of Julian, Branhim, and Wesley aka the Trash Triplets, this season.

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    Spurs landing another capable 3PT shooting wing would be great. Push Barnes to bench where he likely is best and help with bench spacing as well.

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    I'm not sure that Wemby is going to "compete" with two veteran players who are only in SA cause the teams they were on thought they were better off without them. Still a hug win for the Spurs since we shouldn't be seeing much of Julian, Branhim, and Wesley aka the Trash Triplets, this season.
    You don't understand why adding Chris Paul and Harrison Barnes is going to seriously help the younger players get better?

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    CP + Vassell + Traded for 3D + Sochan + Wemby

    Tre + Castle + Keldon + Barnes or Julian battle + Collins

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    I don't think that was ever really a thing, more likely than not it's Ainge leaking these through his mouth piece https://x.com/tjonesonthenba in order to pump up Lauri's value. I don't think there are that many teams that can realistically put together a compe ive package, probably Spurs, GSW (if they renegotiate the terms of the pick owed to Washington), plus maybe Houston and OKC, but that's about it.
    Most all the leaks have been from Ainge or the GSW who have appearances to keep up.

    I go by the idea that Ainge will spout any teams name who has interest because it serves his interest. I don't buy OKC or Houston are in on it because otherwise Ainge would spout it.

    Sac was a name leaked and I am curious if this takes them out of the running after giving DDR his contract.

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    YES. DeRozan doesn’t move the needle very much and don’t want any part of his salary
    I wouldn't take him for the same money. He doesn't play a wisp of defense, refuses to take three pointers and dominates the ball.

    The worst part is that he doesn't specifically do anything wrong, per se. He's a good guy. So he poisons your young players. They all learn from him. Then they all do the same stupid . Dejounte did the same stuff, dribbling the clock down for himself.

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    Sam Quinn has a fedora collection and is frequently featured on r/justneckbeardthings
    Living the American dream of watching sports at home, getting paid to tweet for a living, and eating all the Chipotle he can stuff down his gullet

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    I'd straight up rather have Harrison Barnes on the Spurs than Demar Derozen.
    no shït.

    LOL kings, what an L fücking move.

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    just waiting on the keldon johnson for jarrett allen trade to go thru.

    cp3 / barnes / wemby / allen
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    Do we know if we swapped our natural 2031 pick or the wolves pick?

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    You don't understand why adding Chris Paul and Harrison Barnes is going to seriously help the younger players get better?
    If by get better you mean replace then sure

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    Initial thoughts:

    Not crazy about it. A swap isn't an extra first, it's just a swap, could be absolutely nothing

    Now they have to cut everyone and possibly spend 2nds to get other teams to eat some. Losing Champagnie seems possible, and while I'm not fan of his, he is very cheap and a backup. Bassey might be able to be reclaimed on a minimum. Will they have to burn a second to get off Wesley?

    Also I don't like eating next year on Barnes, jamming up the cap. Could it cost the Spurs a player with $20 million in dead money? I'd hate to see it all for just a swap

    Barnes himself is just a 4 now mostly, should be a fair backup but not worth the money at all
    Great. Cause the players we have to cut or not play to make this work all ing suck tbh

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    Kings fans seem to absolutely adore and admire Barnes. All are sad to see him go from everywhere I’ve seen and read. Seems like he’s been a true fan favorite

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    Do we know if we swapped our natural 2031 pick or the wolves pick?


    You can agree to swap the worst 2031 pick SA has with SAC31

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    Opportunity cost. If they want to tank, then tank. If they want to improve, then get something better than Harrison ing Barnes. If that opportunity isn’t there, then commit to the tank. This kinda move signals they have no clue on what they should be doing.
    I thought you think he is a net negative. If yes then they're tanking?
    And it's a free move. So not sure why you're so mad. They can still get Lauri if they really want to

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    You can agree to swap the worst 2031 pick SA has with SAC31
    But is that what happened? Sacto could also have negotiated such that the spurs can only swap with the better of their 2031 picks

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    If the Spurs were smart, they'd give Charlotte whatever seconds they needed to to guarantee Graham (assuming the deal hasn't been fully called into the league yet) so they can use his contract as matching. I don't love the team's deep bench and think they can get multiple back with the room exception and min deals, but it seems with a better use of assets would be to just pay the picks. This also adds the wrinkle that if the team did lose its deep bench, having Furphy on a three-year deal with the second-round exception could've been one of the better ways to fill out the roster.

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    Yep, that's what I thought. Good stuff.

    You want two vets that will help the youngsters grow, you can't do much better than CP3 and Barnes
    1. 90% of these youngsters are not there anymore in 2-3 years, or deep bench players So I'm not sure growing into what... No future core pieces obviously. But you brought Castle two daddies..

    2. If you want two vets that will help the youngsters grow then keep the team bottom of the league (basically tanking) yeah... they're just fine. both are washed up. If you wanna improve the quality of the team on the floor and fight for a PO push, they're bascially the two worst vets you could find.

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    BTW, this trade, as reported, isn't legal CBA wise:
    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q84

    In addition to the above, in a three (or more) team trade, each team must "touch" at least two other teams in the trade. To qualify as a touch, at least one of the following must be sent (in either direction):
    - An active player contract
    - At least $1.1 million cash
    - A future pick that will actually be conveyed (for example, a team can't meet the touching requirement by sending a top-55 protected pick, that switches to $100,000 cash if it falls within the top 55)
    - The draft rights to an actual NBA prospect (same description as above)
    There must have a "touch" link between Spurs and Bulls. It could be a second round pick or Spurs could trade Bassey to Bulls.

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    Yeah Bulls are very likely getting something from the Spurs and also it’d be daylight robbery if the Spurs get the unprotected swap for nothing. I think the Bulls would value their TE more and wouldn’t reduce its size by accepting Bassey or Champ or both, unless they really love them. Thus, I expect that one or even both of the seconds Chicago get in this trade would be coming from the Spurs.

    Still a damn good deal though.

    Of course the bones of this deal could yet be included in a larger one too.

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    Yeah Bulls are very likely getting something from the Spurs and also it’d be daylight robbery if the Spurs get the unprotected swap for nothing. I think the Bulls would value their TE more and wouldn’t reduce its size by accepting Bassey or Champ or both, unless they really love them. Thus, I expect that one or even both of the seconds Chicago get in this trade would be coming from the Spurs.

    Still a damn good deal though.
    If that's the case, this suddenly becomes a less great deal. Without the Spurs the Bulls lose Demar for nothing.

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    If that's the case, this suddenly becomes a less great deal. Without the Spurs the Bulls lose Demar for nothing.
    It really doesn’t make it any worse unless people have unrealistic expectations. Last summer the Spurs traded 3 seconds in the deal that got them the Dallas swap and took on 10 mil of dead money on the books. If they’re getting a serviceable wing who may have value of his own on top of a pick swap this would be incredible business. Too incredible.

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    Yeah Bulls are very likely getting something from the Spurs and also it’d be daylight robbery if the Spurs get the unprotected swap for nothing. I think the Bulls would value their TE more and wouldn’t reduce its size by accepting Bassey or Champ or both, unless they really love them. Thus, I expect that one or even both of the seconds Chicago get in this trade would be coming from the Spurs.

    Still a damn good deal though.

    Of course the bones of this deal could yet be included in a larger one too.
    i find it really vomit inducing, how underrated champ is by the spurs fans.

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    Good move

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