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Dillingham will be far more valuable than the pick swap and 2081 First round pick we get in the future.
Pretty much same page club, I still can’t believe how good Wemby is, it’s unprecedented. He clearly wasn’t fully ready for NBA speed & athleticism (no 19 yr old ever has been except may Bron), but dominated on D & was very good on O from day one. Sky is the limit, we are so lucky.
My only except is I view Lauri as a great fit (bc age, D, GP) as opposed to a hypothetical perfect fit, with the only real difference being I’d sale the farm for perfect but hold back for great/would have to be a good deal. With the new CBA I don’t think anyone can afford to sale the farm & miss on a Max guy…but as an expiring or FA, b4 Wendy supermaxes? A miss doesn’t crush you
But damn the thought of Wendy/Lauri, two complimentary giants working out there in ‘25-26, with Castle playing PG at a 2nd yr Jrue level & Vessel doing his current thing…wow. Sprinkle in a few competent role players & that’s a real contender in yr f-ing 3. I also think Lauri’s D could really improve when he’s not shouldering the whole O & in a great D scheme, which we already have the foundational pieces for. God I hope Lauri doesn’t extend, getting him as either an expiring or FA (perfect) sets us short term & long…
Dillingham will be far more valuable than the pick swap and 2081 First round pick we get in the future.
It's possible Lauri's D isn't as bad as some want to portray.
Definitely, Paul’s athletic decline has hurt his D/ability to get to the rim, but has not effected his ability to read the floor, or get the ball where it needs to go. Major difference maker even if just for 55g @ 25/min. And the coach on the floor aspect is huge. Paul significantly raises the floor, even when off the court.
Take one for the team…fly to ATL, knee-cap Trae & you get your wish!
I actually really like the Hornets moves & think Miller is legit, that Cha pick is way more likely to convey (even if still unlikely). I haven’t been this excited about NBA since ‘14. Lots of fun teams on top of all the Spurs stuff, when is this season gonna start?????
I hope the NBA already started doing this. Bill Simmons & Russillo discussed multiple times the obvious change after AS break, less soft foul calls, more physical, moving away from the Steph Curry breath-on-me fouls towards letting them play. I believe there was a significant reduction in FTAs (in a sub-set of those softer players that were taking advantage) This could be to get them ready for FIBA style play, but they both said their feel was Silver was simply embarrassed by the AS game & put out a mandate to refs to stop rewarding the floppers & let them play. I really hope that’s the case, basketball is much better when your actually allowed to play D.
To be honest I don’t have a good handle on his D. Watch way less early season then I used to, I’ve only seen him a handful of games the past 2yrs, and never focused on his D. His O very much stood out though.
My perception is from podcasts, articles & comments that generally ranked him from below avg to “adequate”, so I figured he was about average maybe slightly below. Not bad, but not a positive.
Feels like that’s what a C- translates too? C being avg?
what’s your feel for his D?
I don't have much of a feel either because I don't watch a lot of Jazz games, so my opinion of his D would be anecdotal, so my reading would be about the same as yours. Slightly below average (C-) is easily workable.
Why yall talking about handling n feeling his D
We still need a back up center. Collins aint it.
I agree with you. Would be good to force the NBA to change those soft rules that allow weak play by the offensive player and reward it with soft fouls that certain players fish for.
yeah, the famous PATFO grand master plan. Just wait and see, guys. It's all here for whom can see... Betting on pinp pong (again) and about a dozen percents, then praying on not being too good next year and luck so you won't end up with the 6th or 7th pick next year and get a guy who will take 4 years to develop or not.
Because it's "obvious" we're getting another superstar next year in the draft and we're bringing marquee FAs for cheap. It's written, the NBA exists for the spurs and no one else is making any moves to improve around... Ainge will have no choice but to serve us Lauri on a silver plate, Castle will be prime Kawhi his rookie year, and the phantoms of Paul an Barnes are gonna make Wesley Isiah Thomas and Branham Ray Allen.
It's gotta be a very, very long season if spurs are done making moves this year. I do'nt beleive this team as such win 30+ games. But that's the master plan, so it's all good.
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I always thought Americans are huge idiots for calling him Wembanyana, but calling him Wendy takes this to another level
I half agree about that.
The most important for Spurs is to build a core of good players around Wembanyama to be a legit contender in a few years.
To do that, there are 2 sides:
1) Develop good players Spurs have under contract.
2) Expend and/or improve that core through trades, free agency and draft.
Regarding 1): I think Spurs have done a quite good job this summer. Paul and Barnes should bring some stability to the team and help with all their experience. They won't make Spurs a playoff team but Spurs should play a more sound basketball which will help the development of young players. The only negative point for me is that with Paul and Tre Jones, there might not have a lot of playing time at PG for Castle and that's where I want to see him play.
Regarding 2): It's not that good. The current core around Wembanyama isn't great both in quality and quan y with only Vassell, Sochan and now Castle. To me, Spurs are late and they needed to do more in that area this summer. It's true that getting these picks way in the future might help to do a potential blockbuster trade but it's all speculation at that point. What has been done isn't enough.
Now that the dust settled and it appears imo that we will resign two of our castaway friends in Bassey and possibly Mamu, I do find myself disappointed that we couldn't manage to get another rookie or other young player onto the squad. Discounting Harrison Ingram - seems a longshot.
Sidy looking unimpressive doesn't help.
I get that the #8 had to be revoked in order to get the Barnes trade to work. I believe their object was getting Chris Paul, whether with space or going over cap, and use the rest in some other asset-garnering manner. It turned out to work extremely well.
And I sort of get the reluctance to sign a SRP to a guaranteed contract. They are so cheap, though, and they did so for Sidy last year (which may have lead to reluctance this year). In fact, I think they are super-reluctant to get the Blake Wesley/Cidy Sissoko types who are long projects with guaranteed money. Things have changed. And they're nickel and diming cap space for the next year or so.
It just feels peculiar that we're in the SL with only one player of note, as a rebuilding team. Again, part of this is Cissoko's lack of impact. I don't think punting on the #8 was a bad idea in retrospect. It's a fair bet that they might have picked Dalton Knecht or Matas Buzelis, and we'll not have missed much.
Then, for the SRP. Had we picked, say, Furphy, we would have wound up having to use an asset to dump salary to get the Barnes trade through. Something like a SRP to get rid of Wesley, meaning two SRPs used to get Furphy, and I'm not sure that's worth it.
I like that they prioritized established vets over more rookie swings. We've done that enough. I like the Castle pick. I just didn't enter the postseason thinking he'd be the only rookie on the roster, and I expect they didn't, either.
Lmfao future star 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If Wemby improves his play from the end of last season coupled with (hopefully) internal development and the addition of a couple solid vets at positions of need, I think their ceiling could be play in territory. I think they'll win 38ish games but wouldn't be entirely surprised to see them at .500 if they're relatively healthy all season
Cissoko was guaranteed and given an NBA contract, because he had a buyout with his Spanish team that loaned him to the Ignite. He’s been pretty awful, and I see him being jettisoned to open a roster spot next year.
I'm with you on Castle
I wouldn't be surprised if Tre was traded, it'd be the best for him in a contract ending year where he'll have a lot less PT and much lower stats. I don't see a long term future for him in the roster
I don't understand why so many put Castle at the 3, he needs to learn the PG position and alternate at the 2
I think Castle would hate playing the 3.
Castle would lose his size advantage at the 3. He needs to play pg and also at times the 2.
They could have drafted Edey at 8 and solved that problem if they really wanted to.
We shouldn't also overstimate the impact Paul and Barnes "mentorhship" will have on the youngsters, specially with the new generation of players...
It's one thing to be a still compe ive vet in your prime (or close) who still brings it on the court, can teach by example and earn youger players respect with their game and credibility. It's another to be a washed up, older vet who geths is ass kicked in games and practices... It's not as automatic as it used to be to get younger guys respect who be may be like (in their mind) "yeah, whatever grandpa, try to hit a shot first and you'll talk" before getting back on Tik Tok" checking the new trending vids."
Then Paul helped SGA develop and optimize his skils and talent, but he didn't create them. It have to be there to start with.
Luckily, the main thing CP can teach is how to throw a (entry/lob) pass which never "ages" out. Young bucks also respect legit war stories from their own profession, which Barnes and CP have a treasure chest full of.
Well, he'll throw them, that's for sure. Hopefully others will take notice.As far as war stories, not so sure. Publcily, they'll say all the good things, factually, not sure they care that much and mostly focus on their own story, career and stats, trying to get the best contract they can get.
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