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Spurs 25 possible. Definitely none of the Hawks 25, 26 or 27.
With Lauri, Spurs will be a top 6 team in the west. So, Spurs 25 doesn't worth much.
But what doesn’t make sense too much IMO is for UTA or SA is for UTA to want all 25’ picks. I dont think sa does it. Maybe CHI+CHA, but not ATL or Spurs 25.
Spurs 25 possible. Definitely none of the Hawks 25, 26 or 27.
With Lauri, Spurs will be a top 6 team in the west. So, Spurs 25 doesn't worth much.
Im not so certain this is true. Especially if it costs Devin to get him
Spurs aren't giving up Devin. At least I hope not... Devin + Valuable Picks is a negative return.
Can't get the fifth year and higher raises on sign and trade deals any more.
Did not know this - thanks for that.
Even more reason to believe what I've always believed: he'll either traded and then resigned before FA next year, or he'll get reneg and extended by Utah and then traded at the deadline or next offseason or just stay a Jazz player. I highly doubt he ever hits UFA.
I could totally see that as a way for both camps to save face. Lauri gets to play like he's too hot to even get a proper package for and Jazz get to play to the fanbase like they tried to reposition but teams were "lowballing"
So much of it hinges on Lauri and what he wants. I always play this game where I think every prize FA is dying to come to SA and break themselves before Coach Pop and sacrifice night life and ritzy cities to play Spurs basketball.
But maybe Markk loves Mormon chicks or hates Texas or loves SF or hates churros or something.
I've got another theory that Mark to Spurs is actually SA playing out a game with zero interest barring a no brainer deal.
After getting roasted for trading the #8 for delayed gratification, SA ploys to act out a scenario where that future capital is used as a foundation to a potential offer at a brand name, premium FA. [edit: not FA, I meant trade target.]
The Spurs fanbase gets to immediately see the point of hoarding lots of future capital, as that treasure trove is barely enough to put SA at the top of offer packages in a high profile dog fight for Markkanen.
Now the fans can see right away how the trades for future picks can bring back someone like Markk and now the conversation isn't should we have dumped Dilly, it is who can we get with MIN 20131 and the rest of the assets?
Maybe SA actually wants Lauri too, if the price is right, which just lends further credibility to this ploy. But it's like a small demonstration, to show why they are hoarding picks. To be in a position to get an OG, Bridges, Markkanen caliber FA. [edit: not FA, I meant trade target here]
Last edited by heyheymymy; 07-26-2024 at 08:21 PM.
Is this guy reputable? Seems like he’s just saying the same stuff we already know. Zach Lowe was saying on his pod today that he’d be shocked if Lauri didn’t wait until Aug 7 to sign the extension to avoid the drama of being in trade rumors all year. That makes too much sense to me.
Bottoms line: It would be silly for any team to act before August 6th unless the Jazz come off their crazy demands.
I for sure definitely have no clue if this guy is credible, the comments to that tweet seem to think he's normally full of
I just saw a great opportunity to use a Stilgar meme
After interacting with Jazz fans on another forum, and hearing what Lowe and McMahon had to say about this situation... I have a new dream scenario.
Ainge overplays his hand, resigns Lauri to a max reneg and extend, finishes with 34 wins, gets the 11th pick, loses it to OKC, Lauri demands a trade next off-season anyway, and the Jazz get less than they could have right now.
This is is the fortune Danny Ainge deserve. The Spurs would be great with Lauri, but we'll also be fine without him.
Bottom line:
If it's for the potential Malakis and Wesleys (mid or low 1st rounders) of the world you do it...but if the Hawks end up top4 and Utah has that pick, we immediately look foolish so thats a no go.
I'm happy to move on, if Ainge wants Dev or one or some of the good stuff (that said, the ATL stuff but to a leiser degree also DAL and MIN).
Never really understood why it was possible in the first place.
At 27, and after a couple of "empty" years already in Utah, I would imagine Lauri would want start to compete now and not waste the next 2-3 years of prime in an uncertain rebuilding.
SA's advantage is obviously Victor, but that only stands if Lauri specafically says he wants to come here. I personally believe he gets traded no matter what. Not sure how it could actually happen speciailly with the second apron looming, but as spurs fans, we gotta hope HOU or OKC somehow don't manage to land him.
A Chet/SGA/Lauri big 3 could be hard to match.
Last edited by JPB; 07-27-2024 at 05:33 AM.
This is the more likely scenario to happen honestly. That, and to keep Lauri’s value high, they give him run and become a play-in team next year. Not only would they miss out on the top of the 25 draft, but they’d have to CONVEY their 2025 pick to OKC if it falls out of the Top 10!
Utah losing leverage by the hour and it’s delicious.
That’s not the end of it, either. If they save the 2025 pick, they have to tank AGAIN to save their 2026 pick, and the protections drop to 1-8. They basically have to throttle and sit Markannen in his year 27 and 28 seasons.
My guess at this point is the Spurs don't cough up the dream package Ainge thought he would get and he goes back to Warriors. I wonder if his reputation quietly gets a hit here.
An average package we put together would be better than the Warriors package unless they take a sledge hammer to their next decade. Ainge would want their 27 29 and 31 picks, plus probably swaps in between. Steph has maybe 2-3 good years left, and they’d have no way to rebuild, all of that just for a first round playoff out.
I just hope the Jazz don't cave to the media attempting to pressure them into handing him to the Warriors for pennies on the dollar because they're desperate for those frauds to be relevant again and seemingly don't understand that they won't sniff championship contention again anyway.
Long term it would be best for the Spurs if Lauri went to GS because they wouldn't be good enough to compete in the future + they wouldn't have any way to make the team better after giving all their picks to Utah. One less team to worry about.
This kunt a spur yet?
gifted away the #8 pick...for dik
I'd rather have Warriors and split those good players betweent them and remain a tier below us than have Jazz get all the good picks and become a OKC level threat.
Those players will be drafted, either way. It's better for us if they're spread around.
Ainge isn't near the talent evaluator that Presti is. Ainge entire front office reputations is built around one trade that he and he alone got the privilege to do for no other reason that he randomly had the players that a Russian billionaire wanted on a team that he bought on a whim. Well the 76ers did him a solid as well drafting Fultz and gift wrapping him Tatum.
I am perfectly fine with Danny Ainge having a lot of picks from anywhere in any draft at any time. He is not going to do anything with them.
He’s actually a good pick getter, overall, and it wasn’t just the Nets trade. The amount of picks he’ll wind up getting from the Mitc and Gobert trade won’t be measurable by existing technology. Not so great at getting talent, though. If you need a fire sale, hire Ainge. If you need a team built, hire Brad Stevens.
At some point he'll have too many picks to fail. Iirc they're at 15 in the next 7 drafts.
He already owns the entire Cavs and TWolves future, adding Warriors to the list would be too much.
On top of probably getting two own top5 picks in the next two drafts.
It's not like Presti's record is stellar.
He just brute forced it with an overwhelming number of picks.
His only pick that's exceeding expectations ever since Reggie Jackson in 2012 is Jalen Williams.
Chet was a no-brainer, Giddey already got traded away and others were nothing special.
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