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Is this the only thing you can come up with to call her incompetent?
You're the one that gets on constantly in this forum for being out of it. Not me
Is this the only thing you can come up with to call her incompetent?
Then how do all of the countries with social medicine and their price controls work with more monumentally more efficiency?
This is not gas where if prices go up, consumers stop going on trips and similar actions to lower number of sales. Everyone has to eat and while luxury food consumption is a replacer at higher cost that people can move down from, everyone still has to eat.
There is no one size fits all for any economical situation but in the case of inelastic demand: price controls make a lot of sense.
Of course you don't think she's a right winger since you're pretty hard right. Overton window and all. I don't think this country can do better, lost every ounce of faith I ever had in it when none of the financial criminals who tanked the economy in 2008 went to prison.
i think calling her conservative is pretty hyperbolic. but the "she's a communist/socialist" stuff is more delusional and something that is shouted much more often. i think voters are bored of that attack label since its been used on kamala now, biden 4 years ago, and obama 12 years ago. its a tired label that is ringing more and more hollow with each use
if one's definition of communist/socialist is wanting to raise taxes by a few percentages, then its a useless definition
You don't think the Democrats are a right wing party? Their crowning achievement in the last twenty years was implementing Mitt Romney's healthcare plan on a national level.
if your definition of "right wing party" is "someone not demolishing capitalism" then i guess, sure. but i dont think thats a useful descriptor
is she further to the right than people like sanders, warren, markey... yeah of course.
The thing was a blowjob to insurance companies, especially with the public option being torn out of it. Yes I define paying fealty to capital as right wing. Other rich nations have done well demolishing capitalism in their healthcare systems and they get better outcomes for better prices than we do.
Do you seriously not consider Mitt Romney a right winger because he casts meaningless votes against Trump and says he doesn't like him to the cameras?
I get on for being a middle of the road conservative in a forum of some educated liberals and some low information dudes like you.
No you don't. You get on for stupid takes, failing to back up your and crying about how everyone is mean to you over it.
kamala wasnt there when the ACA was enacted. i agree with the criticisms of the ACA that it did little to address underlying costs. it was an improvement to the existing paradigm at the time, but in many ways was a missed opportunity. medicaid expansion was good. inability to hike rates or refuse coverage due to pre existing conditions was good. making sure people get preventative care like baby/child well visits, screenings for common cancers not requiring out of pocket expenditures was good. of course, its subsidized and so not attacking the root problem. but was objectively an improvement, which is why all the "repeal ACA" stuff has always been treated as nonsense.
there are several people i'd prefer to kamala had there been an open primary. i sure as didnt vote for her in 2020. i supported warren early and ended up voting for sanders when he was the more pragmatic choice between the two.
saying all democrats are exactly as right wing as mitt romney by default because of the ACA at the exclusion of every other policy position is certainly a take. if neither kamala or trump is likely to repeal the ACA, do you really not see a distinction between those options?
On an economic level yeah I mostly agree with you there. On a social level, democrats are still left.
Kamala was hand-picked by the ghouls responsible for the ACA, so it's a reasonable assumption she will probably govern like they did. The voting base has been able to drag the party kicking and screaming into a couple of good reforms like Biden price capping out of pocket expenses for Medicare Part D at $2,000 per year starting in 2025 or getting him to finally negotiate prices on a whopping ten drugs, which is why I vote for them because a few crumbs here and there is better than nothing. But most of the they pass for anything more than show is pretty right wing.
there are plenty of good criticisms of the biden/harris administration. their biggest blunder being among the more recent has been their unflinching support of israel in this conflict, instead going with the susan collins "concerned" approach of moaning about Netanyahu without taking any actual action. but on that front, which is probably their weakest position, trump is inarguably worse.
otherwise, who would i rather give a say when it comes to tax policy? on labor laws? on continuing to promote and accelerate green energy as the way of the future? these are all key economic issues. to say their are the same economically just because neither is likely to repeal the ACA and neither wants to abolish the concept of private property is somewhat childish imo.
and thats before getting into social issues, SCOTUS composition, etc
using the ACA as the sole lens to determine whether one is right wing or left wing is either misguided, lazy, or both. if that really is the only deciding factor, then i think left wing and right wing labels become superfluous
other big criticism of biden/harris admin has been their approach to student loans. much like the ACA, its basically subsidy instead of addressing the root issue. theyre just going out there and providing bits and chunks of relief here and there but not doing anything to address spiraling college costs and blank checks for future loans.
but again, on another area where im critical of the biden/harris admin, what better solutions am i getting from trump/vance?
so sure, there are areas where im unhappy with both. but there are unequivocally areas where biden/harris, or harris/waltz would be demonstrably bette than trump/vance and im not ready to just hand waive all those away because ACA exists
I'm not saying the Democrats aren't better than the GOP so don't strawman me like that. I said the Democrats are a right wing party and they are unless you zoom in real close to view them within the ridiculous overton window of US politics.
Student loans ?
Congress has to bail people out not the president
Bringing down prices helps everything
Other’s paid their own students loans why can you not ?
Not that I trust democrats more to accelerate green energy, it's that I trust Republicans to actively work against it.
yeah but your measure of what makes one right wing or left wing seems solely determined by ACA, and i think thats pretty absurd. all the other areas where biden/harris are clearly to the left of trump seem irrelevant. because as long as ACA... they are by default right wing?
what recent president has been better for labor rights than biden?
Like when he shut down rail workers' strike? You're trying to pin me in like being on the left half of the US overton window all of a sudden makes someone not right wing. I think it's reasonable to judge the DNC by their one major accomplishment the last 20 years.
wasnt my question. do you think any other recent president has been better for labor rights than joe biden? i didnt ask if he was the best possible person for labor rights.
you think they should have allowed the rail strike to tank the economy? they enforced an agreement than 8/12 rail unions had ratified. the remaining hangup most had was paid sick leave. something which has since been achieved by rail unions under this admin
You're changing the subject. Being in the left half of the US overton window doesn't mean you're not right wing.
ok i can draw the chart any way i want too
calling bernie center is hilarious. biden equidistant from trump and warren... i mean what planet are we on?
again, your sole guiding factor for whether someone being left or right wing appears to be ACA and im just gonna say thats a lazy and/or nonsensical position
my honest question in all this is what matters when determining if someone is left wing or right wing. you seem to not really consider the social aspect of it, so fine. im addressing the economic aspect of it.
your hangup has been ACA, thats fine. im bringing up other economic issues... we can talk about tax policy, labor rights. but on labor, you are brushing aside the big labor wins from the biden admin by flippantly pointing out the rail issue as the deciding factor there as if the rest doesnt matter. (even though rail unions ended up getting paid sick leave down the line anyway). to what end?
I am totally confused on what left and right mean since Trump reset the entire relativity of how one would try to assess this.
I did not think in your face lying was right or left. Clinton lied right into the television. Trump took that and basically claimed lying as his greatest asset.
Since its clear the Republican party is the party of Trump, their leaders have a mission to lie and lie again until it becomes the truth to the rabid base.
Im out of that . So my only choice is to get rid of him.
And this socialism . The US is full of socialistic structures in government. The US cant be totally capitalistic or it would consume itself. The Republican party thinkers, and there are some, know this.
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