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  1. #226
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    you proved my point.

    spurs were #1 in their division (when i said they'd have the worst future in their division) ---> to tanking. you can't tank without being awful--which the spurs became after i said they would.

    no one on ST wanted to tank when i posted that thread
    The spurs didn’t they tanked years after that.

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    Exactly. Teams go through up and down cycles. No matter which way you call it,if you wait long enough, it will eventually come to pass. Doesn’t make you ing Nostradamus.
    You quoted me gambit, but either didn’t read it, or didn’t understand that your response doesn’t refute this.

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    The question seems to be using assets to 'go all in' or hang onto them, not whether winning is a priority.

    I'm pretty amazed that the Spurs pulled Harrison Barnes and Chris Paul for essentially nothing -- just their salaries. That's a ridiculous job done. If I had one thing they needed this offseason most of all, it was veteran leadership, and they not only got them, they pulled a pretty tasty swap just for taking Harrison Barnes.

    I'm still of the opinion they booted the cap hold on the #8 pick because they were looking to absorb Paul's contract from GSW outright, but then it worked out that we signed him and used the space for Barnes + swap. Pretty amazing stuff.

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    The spurs didn’t they tanked years after that.
    > spurs were #1
    >> i foresaw a train wreck & posted about it
    >>> 95% of ST was high on the roster
    >>>> spurs end the season last or second to last, can’t remember

    period.

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    You quoted me gambit, but either didn’t read it, or didn’t understand that your response doesn’t refute this.
    i didn’t kick a dog while it was down. that would’ve been too easy.

    i said the roster was fool’s gold while they were #1. i was right.

    i predicted the crash during their up cycle.

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    anyways, i’m done talking about how right i was in the past.

    this thread is about bigger things.

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    The question seems to be using assets to 'go all in' or hang onto them, not whether winning is a priority.
    thread is about doing what it takes to win it all.

    wemby is a beast w/ high BBIQ. i don’t surround him with young players over the next few years and hope it pans out. i’m trying to win now.

    if i was wemby i’d rather leave than do a soft tank the next two years.

    he isn’t SGA, we don’t have to wait to see what he might be. we already know.

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    > spurs were #1
    >> i foresaw a train wreck & posted about it
    >>> 95% of ST was high on the roster
    >>>> spurs end the season last or second to last, can’t remember

    period.
    I am foreseeing the Celtics will be terrible one day.

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    I am foreseeing the Celtics will be terrible one day.
    All hail the fortune teller! Huzzah!

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    thread is about doing what it takes to win it all.

    wemby is a beast w/ high BBIQ. i don’t surround him with young players over the next few years and hope it pans out. i’m trying to win now.

    if i was wemby i’d rather leave than do a soft tank the next two years.

    he isn’t SGA, we don’t have to wait to see what he might be. we already know.
    Thread seems to just be about making trades, at least the poll is. No need for trades, they'd be useless right now.

    And the team ain't soft tanking. The Spurs constantly tell us what they're doing.

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    I am foreseeing the Celtics will be terrible one day.
    All hail the fortune teller! Huzzah!
    it's inane that's y'all's takeaway. y'all do y'all though.
    Last edited by gambit1990; 10-06-2024 at 01:50 AM.

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    Thread seems to just be about making trades, at least the poll is. No need for trades, they'd be useless right now.

    And the team ain't soft tanking. The Spurs constantly tell us what they're doing.
    i'm for a big trade.

    i'm not settling for being stuck.

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    castle can ball. keep cp3, barnes, castle, wemby. make a big trade.
    Last edited by gambit1990; 10-10-2024 at 12:34 AM.

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    perfect time to make a rental out of brandon ingram.

    he comes off the books this summer, same as cp3. spurs spend this season assessing BI (who will try to ball out this year to secure the bag), then figure out what step cp3 wants to take next in his career.

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    perfect time to make a rental out of brandon ingram.

    he comes off the books this summer, same as cp3. spurs spend this season assessing BI (who will try to ball out this year to secure the bag), then figure out what step cp3 wants to take next in his career.
    Even rentals are expensive and Spurs will end up like Indiana and NY last summer having to pay the max or loosing him for nothing.

    I like a lot of stuff in BI but I don't trust the dude, I feel like the team that will give him the max won't see him produce much after that. The global cost makes it a very risky gamble

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    Even rentals are expensive and Spurs will end up like Indiana and NY last summer having to pay the max or loosing him for nothing.

    I like a lot of stuff in BI but I don't trust the dude, I feel like the team that will give him the max won't see him produce much after that. The global cost makes it a very risky gamble
    trading for BI is worth the risk. the dude will ball bc this is a contract year for him.

    worst-case scenario: the spurs do give him the max. but that is within the spurs power. and no contract is untradeable.

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    i'm talking about BI being a rental.

    with that said, i'd much rather the spurs go into the next two years with cp3 / BI / wemby than losing cp3 this offseason and putting even younger players around wemby.

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    i was glad when the spurs landed cp3 & barnes. ST should be upset with how well they've performed if all y'all wanna do is keep soft tanking.

    push some fücking chips in. this is the year to do it. cp3 could jet this offseason and barnes could very well be moved this summer. that's already a reset.

    losing some picks trying to win is worth it to keep wemby happy and wanna stay.

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    i was glad when the spurs landed cp3 & barnes. ST should be upset with how well they've performed if all y'all wanna do is keep soft tanking.

    push some fücking chips in. this is the year to do it. cp3 could jet this offseason and barnes could very well be moved this summer. that's already a reset.

    losing some picks trying to win is worth it to keep wemby happy and wanna stay.
    I think if they continue the play they did last night, with Sochan attacking, Wemby pulling the shot blockers with his perimeter plays, CP3 dishing, the defense is already much better, it will be very hard to let CP3 go but continue the winning and even add more to solidify the roster. CP3’s plays have really accelerated the growth process and no way they want to stop that if it can be helped, I mean, why?

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    What exactly does trading for a rental do for this franchise? You think they will ring when they add Brandon Ingram? This is like throwing assets out the window. You sign him in free agency if you want him and they will only do it if the salary number is right. Ain’t nobody giving a poor man’s KD a max contract

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    trading for BI is worth the risk. the dude will ball bc this is a contract year for him.

    worst-case scenario: the spurs do give him the max. but that is within the spurs power. and no contract is untradeable.
    I do agree on that point mate, but it's more a risk you take when you're a contender, not in step 2 on PATFO's timeline

    I heard a good saying regarding contracts's valuation, "it's a good deal when you can trade the player once new deal signed". Would BI be at +40M/5years? Teams aren't rusing now, why would they in a year or 2 especially if he failed in SA?

    I watched him yesterday and he's a mystery to me, he can be wtf impressive, super efficient... and just disapear out of nowhere when it matters. He still passes on of most of his opened 3s (imo he prefers taking them in motion like Vic) and it's going to be a huge issue if he doesn't chnage that aspect of his game.

    Not saying it'd be stupid, just that it's a massive risk for a mul ude of reasons.

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    giving the spurs an identïty will make them more confident.

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    mavs on a four game losing streak

    the west is open tbh.

    (outside of the thunder.)

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    waiting for that trade after pop steps down.

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