Preseason Grades: Spurs vs. Magic - Oct. 9, 2024

[baseline bum]

ST still thinks bums like Cissoko or Welsey will have a future here

Sadly I'm worried bum ass Bran Ham does have a future here. Not buying the sniffer logic of him being first guard off the bench only because they want to decide on guaranteeing his contract this month.

[exstatic]

And they will probably trade a lot of those picks based on recent behavior.

What? Because we traded one pick?

[timtonymanu]

i would love for Wesley to prove me wrong but this isn't 2005 anymore, can't get away with having a player (especially a ing PG) that is a non-factor on offense and has zero touch at the rim. like I get the ST sniffers like him because he gets after it on defense but dude cant even make a ing layup and gets blocked more than anyone ive ever seen he's just another in a long line of scrubs over the years that ST thinks will magically become a good offensive player despite showing nothing at all to indicate that

You just have idiots like Mr. body that think having a strong defense is all we need. That’s why he’s like “lol dillingham wouldn’t fit here cause his defense sucks.” I don’t care about dillingham at this point but how can you look at this offensively challenged team and think all they need is defenders who can’t shoot for . Malaki can’t do either of that but gets the “oh he’s young, give him time,” excuse. And he still looks dog like he did last year.

Thank god Castle isn’t offensively challenged.

[spurraider21]

even IF all the 4th year options are picked up (open questions imo with respect to wesley and particularly branham), we would then have 11 guys under contract for next year, one of whom is Cidy whose contract is non-guaranteed. it also wouldnt be too difficult in theory to move an expiring Collins, and Keldon who would be going into the 2 cheapest years of his contract (owed only 17.5 per year in 25-26 and 26-27)

so its not that heavy of a roster crunch. if we got and used 3 FRPs, we'd also have room to sign 2 solid free agents without having to trade anybody away

[exstatic]

even IF all the 4th year options are picked up (open questions imo with respect to wesley and particularly branham), we would then have 11 guys under contract for next year, one of whom is Cidy whose contract is non-guaranteed. it also wouldnt be too difficult in theory to move an expiring Collins, and Keldon who would be going into the 2 cheapest years of his contract (owed only 17.5 per year in 25-26 and 26-27)

so its not that heavy of a roster crunch. if we got and used 3 FRPs, we'd also have room to sign 2 solid free agents without having to trade anybody away

That’s only one offseason, though. There are 3 more picks coming in the following two drafts, and that doesn’t include ANY second round picks kept for the foreseeable future.

[Russ]

Sadly I'm worried bum ass Bran Ham does have a future here. Not buying the sniffer logic of him being first guard off the bench only because they want to decide on guaranteeing his contract this month.

The interesting thing about Branham is that he's abandoned his bread and butter -- the mid-range jumper. He was actually pretty good at that.

Now he strictly shoots threes.

You wonder if that isn't mandated by the coaching staff, i.e., we know you can make the mid-range, you need to work on the threes and you're required to take every one you get.

[Mr. Body]

You just have idiots like Mr. body that think having a strong defense is all we need.

When did I say that? Lol. What a -up you are.

[spurraider21]

That’s only one offseason, though. There are 3 more picks coming in the following two drafts, and that doesn’t include ANY second round picks kept for the foreseeable future.

sure but thats also more contracts expiring. before the 2026 offseason we will have Collins and Barnes expire, in addition to Wesley/Branham (assuming those options are picked up to begin with). and then in the 2026 offseason keldon would be an expiring deal we could dangle if he hadnt been traded yet.

i'm not that worried about roster crunch at this point, though i really hope they dont exercise branham's 4th year option and tbh still not certain about wesley but at least he's showing some improvement

[timtonymanu]

When did I say that? Lol. What a -up you are.

Correction: versatile players in a strong defensive scheme.

Still proves my point because guys like Malaki and even Blake are anything but versatile players. Yet you defend them to the death. Looking forward to your many other ty takes this year, Mrs. Body.

[Mr. Body]

Correction: versatile players in a strong defensive scheme.

Still proves my point because guys like Malaki and even Blake are anything but versatile players. Yet you defend them to the death. Looking forward to your many other ty takes this year, Mrs. Body.

I mean, where do you get versatile players? Do you think they hatch out of eggs? Like you go to the versatile hatch-em-out-of-eggs store?

[timtonymanu]

I mean, where do you get versatile players? Do you think they hatch out of eggs? Like you go to the versatile hatch-em-out-of-eggs store?

You're the idiot that said that statement. So you tell me WHERE to find these versatile players if Dillingham wasn't enough to your standards.

[The Truth #6]

What? Because we traded one pick?

Or because they favor continuity and not making radical changes.

[exstatic]

Or because they favor continuity and not making radical changes.

Did you even read the post you quoted? He said they’d probably trade most of the picks (radical action) and I asked why, because they traded one?

Your reply is nonsensical in that context.

[gambit1990]

cool knowing the majority of ST will fold now that they’ll appreciate how good cp3 is.

despite him being a million years old.

[gambit1990]

many can hate on cp3’s antics.

but never forget this: the spurs chose brent barry over tony parker as soon as they were able to.

[spurraider21]

the spurs chose brent barry over tony parker as soon as they were able to.

Erin Barry did the opposite

[The Truth #6]

Did you even read the post you quoted? He said they’d probably trade most of the picks (radical action) and I asked why, because they traded one?

Your reply is nonsensical in that context.

I've been responding to you after you quoted me in regards to your belief that Sidy has no chance to stay on the team. Not sure who the other person is you are referring to, or what quote.

[rankingtear]

Wesley and Branham are both scheme dependent. The drive and kick offense they are running in the second unit favors first step guys. Branham having no traditional big to run ball screens with gotta factor on his evaluation this preseason. I just don't think they are going to run 2 different offense in the regular season.

[heyheymymy]

on a side note, someone needs to tell the Mo of the Wagner bros that the war with France is over.

Mo is the Thannasis of the Wagner family.

lol

[heyheymymy]

Cissoko is a smart player -- thumping the ball off the head of a player sprawled out of bounds is frankly not something every NBA player will know to do (it's true) .

haha that was such a heads up play

reminded me of when Wesley played the inbounds pass off of the opponents turned back (Luka D? I think), retrieved it and drove for a layup or dunk. Happened last season. I was like hey this kid is alright.

[John B]

And they will probably trade a lot of those picks based on recent behavior.

Agree. I’d be disappointed if they didn’t use any of those FRP’s to lure an All-Star player wanting to ride Wemby’s tailcoats. Spurs is very small at 4, and Markkanen would’ve been great. I always liked Jaren Jackson Jr, if Ja continues to misbehave.

[exstatic]

SA has 5 and probably 6 FRPs in the next 3 drafts. No one who is a project, a late first or second has a long leash.

And they will probably trade a lot of those picks based on recent behavior.

What? Because we traded one pick?

Or because they favor continuity and not making radical changes.

Did you even read the post you quoted? He said they’d probably trade most of the picks (radical action) and I asked why, because they traded one?

Your reply is nonsensical in that context.

I've been responding to you after you quoted me in regards to your belief that Sidy has no chance to stay on the team. Not sure who the other person is you are referring to, or what quote.

That makes even less sense. I thought it was someone else because the bolded pieces are diametrically opposed in the same discussion string.

Let’s forget about that for a bit and circle back to the earlier part of the discussion. What makes you think they will trade a lot of those picks? Specifically. Recent, or even long term Spurs transactions wouldn’t suggest that. Are you basing it JUST on trading #8 last year?

[Dejounte]

Picks aren’t players. There is no continuity loss when picks are traded. Are you serious with this question?

Just give up, Truth. Ex is known for his rigid way of thinking and cares little else than historical percentages that drives him to be wrong time and time again.

[Pauleta14]

many can hate on cp3’s antics.

but never forget this: the spurs chose brent barry over tony parker as soon as they were able to.

What makes you think that?

TP wasn't aiming for a FO role, he had a team in France to take care of and diff other businesses in europe.

Look, I'm not a fan of TP, he's cringe in so many ways, but in the end we don't know much about what happened behind the scenes.

[cutewizard]

Sidy could be a good 12th man to develop. But our talent level on average isn't there yet, so it will be an interesting dilemma. I sense his archetype is more interesting to the front office and coaches moving forward than Branham is right now. We'll see.

Do you think he can develop an outside shot