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    Wait so what does exercising 4th year options on Blake/Branham have to do with tanking this year? Are we tanking next year too? oh god...
    Yea..This is not good news at all.This seems to show the spurs front office think highly of branham and wesley
    and want them part of our future.Looks like we are committing to branham and wesley lol wtf

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    That is cool but then again I am all in for Tanking so that kind of helps my cause
    This is guaranteeing their contracts for the 25-26 season
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    Wait so what does exercising 4th year options on Blake/Branham have to do with tanking this year? Are we tanking next year too? oh god...
    Exercising those options doesn’t even necessarily mean they’ll be here next year. If the Spurs want to make a big trade next summer, they’ll need contracts of various sizes, and the contract is often more important than the player, especially since Blake and Malaki will be ending contracts this time next year.

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    Yea..This is not good news at all.This seems to show the spurs front office think highly of branham and wesley
    and want them part of our future.Looks like we are committing to branham and wesley lol wtf
    Corey Joseph wasn’t a part of future plans. Kyle Anderson wasn’t a part of future plans. Lonnie Walker wasn’t a part of future plans. Each of them had their year four options picked up.

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    Picking up Branhams option is heartbreaking. It makes me physically ill. What’s next a Collins extension?

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    Picking up Branhams option is heartbreaking. It makes me physically ill. What’s next a Collins extension?
    This is not a surprise tbh. Family culture; avoid risking strained relationships (from Branhams) if only Sochan and Blake got the extension. Spurs would rather have a peaceful locker room than risking Branhams being alienated and being detrimental to the locker room.

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    Branham's player type, even if he improves drastically, is not valued at all in the NBA anymore and picking up next year at 4.9 million is just silly.

    Nobody is looking to pay Branham that much.

    Modest sized, no defense shooters who are proven players and have accomplished much more than him are not sure bets for 4.9

    Trent Jr is only making 2 million this year. And he had a rep in the past for some level of defense.

    Beasley played on 2.7 last year, starting 77 games with 30mpg, 41% 3pt for a playoff team, and the best he could do in the summer was 1 year 6 million for Detroit.

    And Trent Jr and Beasley are career 38.5% from 3. Branham's trash at 32.5% career

    He's such a weak shooter and defender, Pop is going with Champagnie over him as a starter without Vassell. He just isn't credible as a future NBA player that demands an option picked up automatically.

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    This is freaking ridiculous. If they really wanted Branham and/or Wesley back, they could have signed them for a cheaper contract next year (probably the minimum). Absolutely stupid moves.

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    As if people don’t know yet that PATFO takes care of its players. They are not just going to drop Malaki so they can sign him cheaper. They go out their way to develop players, and even if they don’t get to play for the Spurs, that they can play somewhere else. I remember Boban wanted to stay but Pop advised him that he could get much more out there, that the Spurs would not be willing to offer. Or they found Demar, Aldridge, DWhite, DJ teams that either they want to go or they would be more useful. As mentioned, extending Malaki/Wesley is not a surprise

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    This is freaking ridiculous. If they really wanted Branham and/or Wesley back, they could have signed them for a cheaper contract next year (probably the minimum). Absolutely stupid moves.
    I hate Wes, but this is the right way to do business as a small market team. These players have agent that would have players you need in the future. The guys they brought in like Flynn and Boston are good enough to beat them for their spot but did not.

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    This so reminds me of trust the process. That was a big load of since the 76ers still haven't won even a conference championship since 2001. That's not a winning process.

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    I hate Wes, but this is the right way to do business as a small market team. These players have agent that would have players you need in the future. The guys they brought in like Flynn and Boston are good enough to beat them for their spot but did not.
    I disagree. Pop cut Monty Williams back in the day saying he can't shoot and doesn't fit the team (I think he also told him what areas of his game he had to improve on), and at the time, he was one of TD's best friends on the team. I understand what you're saying, but they didn't operate this way back in the day. Not sure why they're operating this way now.
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    Nvm.
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    I disagree. Pop cut Monty Williams back in the day saying he can't shoot and doesn't fit the team, and at the time, he was one of TD's best friends on the team. I understand what you're saying, but they didn't operate this way back in the day. Not sure why they're operating this way now.
    Monty Williams was never cut. The Spurs traded for him from the Knicks in the middle of his second season, and he was retained until the end of his 4th season. Does that sound vaguely familiar? It’s what the Spurs do, unless there is some sort of health (James Anderson), mental health (Primo), or at ude (Sammich) problem, even if they are not in the team’s future plans. CoJo, Kyle Anderson, and Lonnie all trod this path.

    Spurs will very likely extend Sochan next summer, but not Blake or Malaki, either by not offering one, or a ridiculous lowball offer. They will be used as trade ballast, or allowed to walk in 2026.
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    Corey Joseph wasn’t a part of future plans. Kyle Anderson wasn’t a part of future plans. Lonnie Walker wasn’t a part of future plans. Each of them had their year four options picked up.
    Lets put a little context on this. Everything you've said is absolutely true, however all three players you've mentioned have had at least a 7 year career even as journeymen - congrats to the spurs for drafting guys with talent. Without the spurs help, I'm not sure that Branham or Wesley would last 5 years if that long.

    Sorry, but with all the incoming draft picks and available low cost veteran talent, its time to move on from these two especially is we want to start a winning culture again. Wemby may not be that patient for much longer. Lets just say that we drafted these two guys, they didn't quite pan out and move in another direction.

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    Lets put a little context on this. Everything you've said is absolutely true, however all three players you've mentioned have had at least a 7 year career even as journeymen - congrats to the spurs for drafting guys with talent. Without the spurs help, I'm not sure that Branham or Wesley would last 5 years if that long.

    Sorry, but with all the incoming draft picks and available low cost veteran talent, its time to move on from these two especially is we want to start a winning culture again. Wemby may not be that patient for much longer. Lets just say that we drafted these two guys, they didn't quite pan out and move in another direction.
    And they might just move on next summer if a trade or trades require salary. What better salary than someone who isn’t in your plans?

    I’m going to keep saying it until people get it. If you’re not some kind of major problem child in one way or another, you get your year four option picked up in SA. I’m not saying anything about their futures here or anywhere in the league. That’s irrelevant to my point. It happens over and over and over, and people here are still surprised by it.

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    Just wondering if the perspective may change next summer when you have at least two FRPs and possible FAs but Blake and Bran are still on the roster and in the way.

    I will say with how fragile Devin Glassell is might not be the worst thing in the world to hang on to Branham a little longer until you know Dev is sturdy enough to hold things down. A known family guy like Bran who already learned the playbook might be better than scrambling to cover a Devin injury.

    Was kinda hoping Bran would be gone at least. Nothing personal

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    Monty Williams was never cut. The Spurs traded for him from the Knicks in the middle of his second season, and he was retained until the end of his 4th season. Does that sound vaguely familiar? It’s what the Spurs do, unless there is some sort of health (James Anderson), mental health (Primo), or at ude (Sammich) problem, even if they are not in the team’s future plans. CoJo, Kyle Anderson, and Lonnie all trod this path.

    Spurs will very likely extend Sochan next summer, but not Blake or Malaki, either by not offering one, or a ridiculous lowball offer. They will be used as trade ballast, or allowed to walk in 2026.
    I don't remember. I'm sure it was Monty as I remember reading an article where he said Pop called him into his office and was brutally honest with him that he wasn't bringing him back and told him the reasons why. Maybe it was at the end of that third season as he only played one year with TD. I remember him saying he was pretty devastated at the time, but in the end, appreciated Pop being honest with him. I don't know, it was a long, long time ago.

    Well, hopefully they are let go (if they don't improve this season), but I didn't think another year on top of this one in warranted. What if they both suck this year? The Spurs are on the hook for all of next season with them too now. Are they going to be easy to move?

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    I wouldn't have picked options on Branham and Wesley. It just seems highly unlikely that they turn into something good. Saying that, I won't trash Spurs FO about it because it isn't a lot of money and having tie this money to them likely won't hurt Spurs. It is just a low risk but even lower reward move.

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    Just wondering if the perspective may change next summer when you have at least two FRPs and possible FAs but Blake and Bran are still on the roster and in the way.

    I will say with how fragile Devin Glassell is might not be the worst thing in the world to hang on to Branham a little longer until you know Dev is sturdy enough to hold things down. A known family guy like Bran who already learned the playbook might be better than scrambling to cover a Devin injury.

    Was kinda hoping Bran would be gone at least. Nothing personal
    There’s more depth behind Vassell now. Castle plays behind him. With Barnes getting forward minutes they’ve seemingly moved Champagnie to guard.

    and people aren’t necessarily (though i am) saying Branham needed to be waived or traded way right now. Rather, guaranteeing his contract for NEXT season just seems absurd

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    Austin Spurs traded for his G-league rights just before that:


    Austin Spurs team will be quite different than last year. They did a lot of trades and even have a new coach.
    The starting lineup should be Bouyea/Duke/Barnes/Minix/Mensah with Isiaah Miller and Jameer Nelson on the bench. That's a quite good team. We will see who they will add through the usual fake local tryouts because they need some depth inside.

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    I disagree. Pop cut Monty Williams back in the day saying he can't shoot and doesn't fit the team (I think he also told him what areas of his game he had to improve on), and at the time, he was one of TD's best friends on the team. I understand what you're saying, but they didn't operate this way back in the day. Not sure why they're operating this way now.
    We never had capspace to spare. It is more doing favor for agents than players. Agents have 30-40 year careers. They bring more deals on the table than people realize, case in point Derozan and Dougie this year. It is more beneficial to do favors to agents than it is to other teams GM.

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    Yea..This is not good news at all.This seems to show the spurs front office think highly of branham and wesley
    and want them part of our future.Looks like we are committing to branham and wesley lol wtf
    They have trade value.

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    There’s more depth behind Vassell now. Castle plays behind him. With Barnes getting forward minutes they’ve seemingly moved Champagnie to guard.

    and people aren’t necessarily (though i am) saying Branham needed to be waived or traded way right now. Rather, guaranteeing his contract for NEXT season just seems absurd
    Maybe it's preemptive positioning for CP3 and Jones' fate going forward. Big IF, but if you were not planning on returning either Paul or Jones or both, then in that case keeping Blake and Bran could be viewed as relatively cheap insurance at the 1 and 2 slots?

    Because yeah otherwise I agree with you, the depth has been bolstered now to where picking up the options on Blake and Bran makes less sense.

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