I'd still take Trae on the spurs.
Don't think I'd trade their pick back, not this one anyway, but other picks sure.
He also had 8 rebounds, 13 assists and got to the line for 14 pts. No perfect player but trae still fits a lot of boxes for the spurs tbh.
Trade for trae and get our 25 pick a better shot.
Because of Bilal
You watched the Raptors pick all year for the pick to be punted away.
So? We got the ing thing, and if we didn’t, it likely wouldn’t have conveyed this year. They’re hard tanking.
Still added excitement to what was in many ways a trying year.
Haha earlier today I actually had some brain fog if I’m rooting for Charlotte to win or lose.
win, win, win. this is the last year for it to convey. now even if it does, its lotto protected, so its at best #15 overall. but anything still infinitely better than getting 2 more second rounders
the kinda questionable one is chicago. seems like the perfect world would be
2025: hornets pick conveys, so we have our own, ATL's, and Charlotte's. 3 picks
2026: bulls pick conveys, so we have our own (swap rights with ATL), and Chicago's. 2 picks
2027: we have our pick and ATL's pick. 2 picks
so in theory, the best situation from a balance perspective would be to have chicago's convey specifically next year. the protections for the bulls pick also drops from top 10 this year to top 8 each of the next 2 years, so the risk of it not conveying at all is still somewhat small. of course, if we did receive a 4th first rounder this year, we could still trade one for a pick less year with lighter protections (or use it as ammo to trade up and get more high level players in what projects to be a strong draft)
i was thinking that yesterday when seeing that they were leading the nuggets late. but, in a way, we do want the raptors to do well because we need as many teams in the East to have a better record than ATL.
Chicago looks alright, if their guard corps stays healthy. Giddey for Caruso imo was a bit of a steal.
but we also need them to be worse than charlotte
NO. We want Atlanta to ING SUCK. Charlotte and to some extent Chicago have to do well for us to get their pick.
well, yeah we want Atlanta to suck but we want as many teams, such as Toronto, to have better records. that is all i was saying. so, every time the nets win, or the bulls, or the wizards, or the raptors, on a night that the hawks lose, it's a good night.
The good news (for Spurs) about Hawks is that Hunter is out because of a sore right knee. He has had issues with this knee for years and it looks like it will continue this year.
Man, back to back losses to Washington would be a MASSIVE surprise. I really thought they were a lock to go 4-1 first 5 games.
I'm there too...
btw, a nugget on the hawks PG situation...
they didnt really have a backup PG last year, at least not meaningfully. they would usually at least somewhat stagger Trae/Murray so one was on the floor at all times. the only other nominal point guards on their roster all year were Vit Krejci, Patty Mills, and Kobe Bufkin. of those:
Krejci played a total of 541 minutes across 22 games
Patty played a total of 202 minutes across 19 games
Bufkin played a total of 196 minutes across 17 games
to put those numbers into perspective, their combined 939 minutes was comparable to the 876 minutes that blake wesley played all of last year, and he only suited up for about 60 games himself
the hawks leaned heavily not just on young but on murray to pick up the PG slack when Trae was either on the bench or injured. this year without murray, they're kind of in uncharted territory as far as having to actually use backup point guards, which is partly why through 4 games, Trae is playing a career high 38 minutes per game
Dyson Daniels does play some amount of point guard, albeit he's not that much of a creator, and he's among those currently hurt. and like murray for the last two years, he's also the starting 2 for ATL.
with Krejci and Bufkin out, the only other PG on their roster is Keaton Wallace (two way). otherwise, Jalen Johnson does do some amount of ball handling but mostly on the short roll, not really as a primary initiator
they are paper thin right now, and this will be the most Trea-centric version of the Hawks we've ever seen. in the pre-dejounte days, they at least had other contributors like John Collins (before he broke down), Gallinari (while he was breaking down), and late career Lou Will. right now, while i like a good amount of their supporting pieces, they are mostly guys who are just kind of waiting to be the beneficiaries of Trae's creation
Exactly - if anything were happen to Trae ATL would be in serious trouble it appears due to the lack of guard depth after losing Murray. They would likely be in a world of hurt record wise
Atlanta is also trapped by the fact that their owner doesn't want at all to pay the tax.
They have currently a roster spot wasted on Cody Zeller, who isn't with the team. They can't waive him and sign another player because it will put them above the tax. They are likely waiting Dec 15th, when he will be trade eligible, to salary dump him to a team like Detroit.
do we have enough of the room exception left after the jalen mcdaniels trade to take zeller off their hands for another pick?
Not enough left. Zeller's salary is $3.5M and Spurs have $3.24M left. Spurs also don't have a roster spot available to do that kind of trade, they must waive a player first if they want to use the remaining of their room exception in a salary dump trade.do we have enough of the room exception left after the jalen mcdaniels trade to take zeller off their hands for another pick?
Atlanta would block Spurs` GM number if he`d make that calldo we have enough of the room exception left after the jalen mcdaniels trade to take zeller off their hands for another pick?
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