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    Yep. Unbelievable.

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    Though he has put Hillary, Biden, and Harris on that curb, Winester, top rung..."Now, say goodnight."
    no no, politics did not end yet

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    bottom line, 67% of the exit-polled said the economy is bad. aggregate measures of the economy did not reflect ground level pain, and Harris did not address that pain in a focused way.

    inflation is hard on in bents, and a boon to unprincipled demagogues. we've seen this all over.
    She was easy prey. Had nary intention of changing a in' thing on the border, or, in the economy, or, in Ukraine and didn't mind sticking it up our asses grinning all the way.

    She just wanted to make President and act off. Make turkey pot pie!

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    no no, politics did not end yet
    And never will.

    We'll see what (he) is up to now.

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    bottom line, 67% of the exit-polled said the economy is bad. aggregate measures of the economy did not reflect ground level pain, and Harris did not address that pain in a focused way.

    inflation is hard on in bents, and a boon to unprincipled demagogues. we've seen this all over.


    She played the abortion card way too much. Granted that is a major issue, but you are pretty much putting all your eggs into one basket . I still feel Bernie would had been the safer bet. Trotting out Harris was a huge gamble. I still didn’t think it was going to be this bad though

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    Why do people keep trotting out Bernie like he’s still relevant? He would have been absolutely atrocious considering how far left he is and with the demonstrable move to the right we saw last night (eg, among black men and latinos)

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    So where is Harris? Ditched her supporters last night when it was obvious she was losing and still in hiding LOL

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    Holy

    These truth nukes

    Rack rhis classy lady


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    The irony of this blowout is that Harris as VP is going to have to personally certify Trumps election in January.
    Al Gore did the same. For most normal people the certification and transition isn’t really a hotly contested thing

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    Al Gore did the same. For most normal people the certification and transition isn’t really a hotly contested thing
    She will have to come out of hiding and concede first.

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    Al Gore did the same. For most normal people the certification and transition isn’t really a hotly contested thing
    Cackling is not normal.

    This will be must see tv

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    No, you dismissed any poll that didn't favor Trump. That's all you did. You ignored the same pollsters when they suddenly favored Harris. You didn't have any methods yourself other than that.

    How many times did you repost Nate Silver? You do know who he picked to win in the end, right? Let me know if you need help finding any of your Nate Silver love posts from the past month or so, genius.
    Once again you display how little you know and understand about polls. Nate Silver isn't a pollster and Nate Silver doesn't conduct polls. This lack of knowledge doesn't surprise me since you openly admitted this cycle was the first time you've ever heard about 538 (guess what they aren't a pollster either).

    I took you to the woodshed over and over again every single time you tried to bring up polls you thought were positive for Harris. The Selzer poll was the icing on the cake and you went 100% in on that one even going so far as researching her past poll performances and linking everything you could find here in an attempt to justify the obvious (to anyone who actually looked at her sample) D hopium poll. I posted how ty her poll was and how outside the actual electorate she polled and you wouldn't listen and doubled down.

    You've got 4 years to start researching how polls are conducted and how a polled sample can produce a certain outcome. I suggest you either study up or sit the next cycle out when it comes to analyzing polls because you got taken to the woodshed this year.


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    Julio, you and your 40 cousins gotta start packing your . GTFO

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    The irony of this blowout is that Harris as VP is going to have to personally certify Trumps election in January.
    And she's going to do it because one party still understand this is how Democracy works. Hopefully Vance remembers in 4 years too.

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    this should (but wont) put to bed any ideas of a rigged/stolen election in 2020. if the Dems couldn't rig an election when they were in power how tf were they able to do it when Trump had control?

    Difference between the left and right is the left will accept the results and move on. Kamala will certify the results. no one is looking to pull shenanigans to overthrow the will of the people. ty result but the people have spoken tbh

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    this should (but wont) put to bed any ideas of a rigged/stolen election in 2020. if the Dems couldn't rig an election when they were in power how tf were they able to do it when Trump had control?

    Difference between the left and right is the left will accept the results and move on. Kamala will certify the results. no one is looking to pull shenanigans to overthrow the will of the people. ty result but the people have spoken tbh
    Ya's tried to rig it by blowing his head off and kept missing.

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    Ya's tried to rig it by blowing his head off and kept missing.
    I bet lots of people regretting that miss right now... it's like they handed Kobe a rifle or something...

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    Lol you don't know about polling.
    Lol Iowa Register poll is cited every damn election as a gold standard, but now it's an "outlier".

    Pure cope.
    IT'S FAKE POLL MEDIA


    "Former President Donald Trump has branded top Iowa pollster Ann Selzer a "Trump-hater", and described her weekend poll, which put Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of him by 3 points, as "suppression"...

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...llegal-1979569
    This was from June:

    "Two weeks after he was convicted in a New York courtroom of multiple felony counts, former Republican president Donald Trump still holds a double-digit lead over Democratic in bent Joe Biden in Iowa.

    A new Des Moines Register/Mediacom Iowa Poll shows Trump leads Biden 50% to 32% among likely voters. "

    https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...l/74088665007/

    I don't recall any cries of FAKE back then
    Copyright 2020, Des Moines Register and Tribune Co.

    Republican President Donald Trump has taken over the lead in Iowa as Democratic former Vice President Joe Biden has faded, a new Des Moines Register/Mediacom Iowa Poll shows just days before Election Day.

    https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...en/6061937002/

    FAAAKE
    Link to a smart dem agreeing that Selzer is washed up
    No clue what she was thinking releasing such a poll
    Lol " poll"

    Trump speak
    Selzer...Harris +3

    Reality...Trump +13




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    Selzer...Harris +3

    Reality...Trump +13



    The final Des Moines Register poll in Iowa, not considered a presidential battleground state, shocked many last week when it showed Harris narrowly ahead of Trump, 47 percent to 44 percent. It missed badly: Trump beat Harris by 14 points, 56 percent to 44 percent.

    Ann Selzer, who has enjoyed a reputation as her state’s gold-standard pollster for decades, was left searching for answers.

    "The poll findings we produced for The Des Moines Register and Mediacom did not match what the Iowa electorate ultimately decided in the voting booth [Tuesday],” Selzer said in a statement provided to the Register. “I’ll be reviewing data from multiple sources with hopes of learning why that happened. And, I welcome what that process might teach me."


    https://www.politico.com/live-update...-mark-00187820

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    It’s funny, 12 years ago I would have definitely said I was left-leaning. On the actual important issues I still probably am. But over the last decade I have truly grown to despise the people on the left. Smug, contentious, obnoxious and overtly hateful. Not to mention massive pussies to boot.

    Big to all the liberals after this blowout. I don’t like Trump but seeing the crybaby rage over the next few weeks at a minimum will be glorious.
    No doubt you have Fox News on 24/7. It'll do that to you if you keep it on long enough.

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    Selzer...Harris +3

    Reality...Trump +13



    if it had been pro Trump [because you're pro Trump], you'd be praising at as the gold standard. That's all you did here.

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    The final Des Moines Register poll in Iowa, not considered a presidential battleground state, shocked many last week when it showed Harris narrowly ahead of Trump, 47 percent to 44 percent. It missed badly: Trump beat Harris by 14 points, 56 percent to 44 percent.

    Ann Selzer, who has enjoyed a reputation as her state’s gold-standard pollster for decades, was left searching for answers.

    "The poll findings we produced for The Des Moines Register and Mediacom did not match what the Iowa electorate ultimately decided in the voting booth [Tuesday],” Selzer said in a statement provided to the Register. “I’ll be reviewing data from multiple sources with hopes of learning why that happened. And, I welcome what that process might teach me."


    https://www.politico.com/live-update...-mark-00187820
    Even though the poll was conducted by the "holy grail" of Iowa pollsters it was clearly very flawed (it was a Biden-won sample in a state that Trump won by 8% in 2020 FFS)
    There is nothing for her to review and learn from as she is finished being known as a reputable pollster. She purposely put out a hopium poll in a last ditch effort to boost D turnout.




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    There is nothing for her to review and learn from as she is finished being known as a reputable pollster. She purposely put out a hopium poll in a last ditch effort to boost D turnout.



    Conspiracy tweets! It's another worthless thing you do here aside from entertaining people as you dance.

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    if it had been pro Trump [because you're pro Trump], you'd be praising at as the gold standard. That's all you did here.
    Pure projection. I wouldn't have even cared about her poll if it was pro Trump because it was so obvious from all other Iowa polls that Trump was clearly going to win Iowa. It was Pro Harris poll and you huffed down the hopium and praised it as the gold standard without bothering to check the crosstabs. You've proven time and time again you know jack about polling. I suggest you either start learning how to read crosstabs and understanding what an electorate is or just sit out any discussion about polls because you absolutely embarrassed yourself this election every single time you tried to discuss polls.

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    Been out awhile. Harris still hiding?

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