As a backup but I’m thinking of Micah potter. Very little time as a third string centre for Utah is always a bad sign, but in the last few years in very low minutes he seems to be a decent shooter, rebounds a little, can pass somewhat, and is a neutral or a slight negative defender. Not the worst as a third stringer if bassey can move to a backup role (which o honestly don’t think he can) and ship zollins out with our second round picks for some cap relief.
CP also showed that the spurs require some strong PG play (if Tre didn’t already showed that last year), so I think PG is an important role to fill for the long term. I’m hoping castle can be that but I think we’d benefit with a true PG as a lead for the next few years. Someone like Cunningham would be perfect but that’s never going to happen. The issue is high end true point guards are rare in todays game as the league has shifted into a scoring PG league, but our focus is clearly wemby so a set up PG would be beneficial to our offence. Another alternative would be a bunch of players who are versatile and can pass the rock, like a bunch of secondary playmakers plus wemby. Castle would hopefully grow into that role, sochan shows some promise as a PF in that role but neither can shoot which severely limits their effectiveness.
Castle is a great secondary play maker and POA defender. I also think champaigne should have the shooter roll 3&D role locked down by now. If sochan (unlikely) and castle (I’m think he can) can turn into semi decent outside shooters to keep the defense honest, say 32% on 4 attempts a game, the spurs starting five will be pretty solid. But if sochan continue to stink it up from outside with that god awful slow release he either has to move to the bench or traded. It’s too bad because he’s a rather difficult to find prototype in this league.
Barnes is a good prototype for the other wing position, but someone more aggressive would be great. People are looking at cam Johnson for that role but I’m not overly convinced. He’s a very limited player and the asking price is high for a growing team like the spurs. I still thinking Jabari smith jr would be an awesome fit with us but Houston won’t let him go u less the spurs are willing to give up way over market for him.
If the suns blow it up (trading booker to HOU for their picks back), we should try for Durant...
Durant
for
(Keldon, Collins, Branham, Wesley + best FRP of SAS/ATL 2025 + CHA 2025 FRP + best FRP of SAS/ATL 2027 + SAS 2029 FRP )
or (Vassell, Collins + worst FRP of SAS/ATL 2025 + CHA 2025 FRP + worst FRP of SAS/ATL 2027 + SAS 2029 FRP)
Keep dreaming. Going to take more than 3 FRPs plus our scraps. You need to attach mid to late FRPs to both Zollins and Keldon just to get them of our books.
would be nice to get durant....But could for sure see okc come in and take durant easily if hes available.
KD is too important to just be traded somewhere against his will.
He's got just one year left after this one and he'll be 37 before the next season starts.
Suns won't be able to ask for more than two unprotected FRPs and a solid player.
Yeah i think we will start hearing the "he wants out" rumors at the 2026 deadline or the following offseason that year. Devin Booker sooner than that; Suns will begin listening on him next Summer (Rockets are favorite due to them owning PHX pick) . Spurs most definitely will explore a Fox trade but won't empty the cupboard for him, which they would for Ant otherwise.
Who are the Spurs going to sign with cap space over the next couple of years?
Heat fans turning on Jimmy. Miami not exactly a sports city but he probably tarnished his status in Miami for that retirement lol
https://bleacherreport.com/post/nba/...9-00c3da245f9a
I think for the trade deadline we should look at minor upgrades. The main player who should be traded is Tre Jones. Yes I know he has a good plus/minus, but he can't shoot and is on an expiring 9 million dollar contract. His contract seems to be a valuable trade asset. You can add in Mamu and Bassey for 2 million each expiring as well. Of course Keldon, Malaki and Blake should always be on the table.
trade targets:
Valanciunas: the obvious back up big we should go after who's on a reasonable contract for 2 more years at 10 million each. I think we should always look at filling out the back up C spot with a cheap vet, those are easy to get.
DiVincenzo: would add some shooting to our team and Minny seems to want to move him, makes 11 million this year and 12 million 2 years after
John Collins: would give you all the "Wemby lobs it to Sochan" plays we're running while also being able to spread the floor with his 3-point shooting. He's also somewhat able to play small ball C, although not ideal.
Cam Johnson: no need to say much more, but he is not that good of an defender as people here think. He can only guard SFs.
Then for the 2025 offseason we need to make some real additions. While the Spurs have clearly planned for the 2026 offseason with only 44 million commited in salary (not counting Sochan's extension which would kick in that year), I think there should be some accelaration in 2025 giving how good Wemby is already. You really need to add a star while Wemby is on a rookie contract as well as Castle and Champagnie is still cheap.
I'd definitely want to keep CP3 if he accepts a bench role, just to have him for another year as a players coach. The most valuable contracts that season will be Zach Collins and Barnes on 18 and 19 million expiring deals. While I'd like to keep Barnes, 19 million is way too much for him and you could package him for an upgrade in a trade with a team that wants to free up salary.
Free agency targets:
Naz Reid: would be an amazing addition cause he can play PF and C. Would make a Valanciunas addition unneccessary
Alexander-Walker: 3-and-D
Jake La Ravia: 3-and-D
Kuminga: not a good 3-point shooter, but I'd sign him for the right number off potential alone. Of course not for 30 million per year like he demanded, but I doubt he gets that on the open market.
Tyus Jones: Tre with a jump shot, if you don't keep CP3 he'd be a nice addition
Quentin Grimes: SG, 10PPG, 40% 3-point shooter
Ty Jerome: not sure how good his defense is, but overall great numbers
Gary Trent Jr.: He's one of those bench scorers everybody talks about adding. Plays a different role for the Bucks, but was filling it up for the Raptors before.
Even if it's just Valanciunas and two 3-and-D players, those would improve this team by a wide margin compared to what we have now.
trade targets:
DeAaron Fox: the obvious PG addition to get Wemby a co-star. Largely depends on the price, but you'd obviously want to retain as many good players as possible while getting him
Lauri Markkanen: the dream never dies!!!! (Same as Fox basically, just different position)
Dejounte Murray: don't care about his stats on the weakass Pels, he'd be a good addition if you want to surround Wemby with a bunch of 3rd options instead of a clear number 2
KD: if the Suns blow it up, Booker should be Houston bound. KD on the other hand...
Herb Jones: pipe dream I guess
Jaren Jackson Jr.: if he doesn't sign an extension with the Grizzlies, do whatever you can to get this guy. Perfect 4 to pair with Wemby. Most likely another pipe dream.
We only need to add about 3 players tbh. Of course a co-star would be the move that moves the needle the most. Add in that we should get 2 draft picks who can then replace the Branham's and Wesley's on the team and are hopefully better from the get-go.
Not just about signing. It's about options and trades.
He has taken a clear step forward. The team has gone backwards since the trade.
Here's an idea that works salary wise. Add picks as needed. Probably CHI25 back to CHI and two FRPs from SA to SAC? Maybe CHI sends some SRPs back to SA.
I think Lavine is probably the kind of soft reload that SAC would prefer, which CHI gets off Lavine and a less expensive tank commander in his place.
Butler, McCollum, Ingram, Zion, LaVine, and Vuc- All of these guys on the market. It looks like there are more sellers than buyers..
Just need to see one or two of these guys change hands to set the market.
I mean Booker was literally crying in a SL game about being double teamed. At least on the Spurs, Ant wouldn’t be double teamed. Also think this was Ant calling out Minny FO rather than moaning about being double teamed. He misses KAT and they traded him for ing JR
Beam is being lit on the regular now. 30 point win @GSW Fox probably not going anywhere anytime soon (though they did do that without Fox today. Maybe SAC will get the impression they can live without him)
im way lower than consensus here on Cam Johnson. yes, i like him. yes, he'd be an awesome starting 3 to have as basically your fourth or fifth best starter. but he's an average-ish defender with next to no positional versatility. his contract is solid but i dont like giving up legit first round capital for a guy like that.
i like the concept of scott's 3-team deal to get Fox here, but derozan/lavine is a movie everybody has seen before...
i liked john collins a few years ago, and he looks like he's past the hand/finger injury that killed his jumper for a minute there. he's playing well this year. he's an upgrade to sochan in basically every way apart from defending guards... but if castle is meant to be the perimeter stopper anyway, thats fine by me.
i think jonas is fine, but doesnt make sense unless zollins' deal is offloaded, and i dont know what kind of capital its going to take to make that type of swap
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What do the Spurs do with Tre? Try to lock him up on a team friendly deal in the offseason or trade him for something while you can?
Tre needs to be shipped out for a rotation piece that can shoot. His expiring contract coupled with some 2nd rounders is valuable enough to bring in such a player.
John Collins is a decent player, but he lacks the size to play at the 5. Unless you want to play small ball all the time with him on the floor, I don't think he would be a good option as a backup C.
Agree, but he would be a great starting PF
Instead of going after a big fish now I would rather wait to see if Ant man becomes available and get some supporting pieces like Val or even try to bring Peoltl back, his salary matches up with Zollins nicely...
I remember an argument Bitadze and Greg Foster had where Foster was suspended by Indy for a game and Bitadze was fined... when did he punch a coach?
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...court-exchange
Goga has the potential to be the most impactful back up center in the league, plus he's only 25 and still improving. Definitely my favorite target.
The best trade is the one you don’t make
I hope we don't get in this routine where we are just standing pat for the unlikely scenario that one of the games' elite players suddenly becomes available. Would hate for Wemby to have to go through 7 years of subpar surrounding casts because we're keeping the powder dry just in case Ant becomes available.
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