I’m still high on John Collins. Would love to see him next to Wemby. Could slot Jeremy to the 3 with HB a focal point of second unit (last DEN prime example of his abilities). Could send out Zollins + Tre and have Bassey and Blake step up for rest of year.
“Conversations between the two sides led to whispers around the league of a potential package featuring Obi Toppin, Aaron Nesmith, at least one unprotected first-round pick, and other draft assets.”
Spurs have to be able to beat the Pacers’ poo poo platter offer for Cam Johnson
An unprotected first and other draft assets isn't nothing.
And Toppin had a really solid year last season and Nesmith is a player who shoots absolutely lights out from 3. Those two plus an unprotected first (and more) is a REALLY strong offer IMO
Ant Edward’s probably wouldn’t become available until 2028, at the earliest. His contract runs through 2029.
I'd be interested in participating in this and having Nesmith getting routed here. BKN may be looking at him as someone who's value they can increase to flip later though.
Marks owes us some favors
i'd be okay with cam johnson but not over the moon about it. he can score but he's not very efficient. but we are desperate for scorers.
He’s an elite shooter at pretty high volume. Exactly the type of player Wemby needs to be surrounded by.
Trade Sochan + the ATL pick for the best guy you can get : low stakes, will be addition by subtraction anyway. Take a swing instead of trading another pick for the 2031 rebuild after Wemby walks... Zion Ingram Cam whoever
Yeah I might be on an island, but I'd rather have Nesmith as an upgrade to Keldon than Cam Johnson as an upgrade to Barnes right now.
Cam Johnson doesn't get me as excited as he does others.
Honestly, I'd be fine with beating that offer for Cam, but I'd be equally happy (maybe More-so actually) by sending additional draft capital to Brooklyn and getting Obi, Walker, and Nesmith out of the deal.
Brooklyn- Keldon + Sochan
Spurs- Obi + Walker + Nesmith
Pacers- Cam + Branham
Brooklyn would get the first + other considerations from Indy and we'd add to it...
Spurs been rumored last off season and now again to Nembhard…
This is a lot more change than the Spurs FO usually can tolerate, but I really like this. This is the kind of thing I'd try to pull off in 2K, lol.
This would inject a lot of promise and shooting into our wing position, but it does carry a bit of risk. Can Walker maintain his shooting on higher volume? Can these guys increase their REB%? Can we get Obi to play some defense?
It does give us a little bit of logjam at the wings... but maybe Toppin can be rerouted elsewhere for a backup C or with Vassell for Fox
CP3/Tre
Vassell/Castle
Champ/Nesmith
Barnes/Toppin/Walker
Wemby/Collins/Bassey
HIS ING TRUE SHOOTING PERCENTAGE IS 67! That is ing elite, and the very DEFINITION of efficient.
It sounds good to me.
Vecenie was speculating on his podcast that the market for a 36 year old Durant at 51 million would be thin. I don't disagree, Suns can't take back more money and getting contending teams to a number close enough would be hard.
OKC I've seen speculated with all their picks and such but they realistically can't make the salary work this season. They can't get to it unless it's like a 5 for 1 deal with Dort, Joe, Wiggins, Kenrich and Topic and that's a big order to get through.
So I could see the Spurs being able to get in on Durant cheaper than some might think. Durant doesn't hurt the 2026 summer free agency plan, and a Durant trade could be a good way off having to overpay Sochan.
Sochan becomes the most valuable part of the Spurs deal.
Sochan
Keldon
Zollins OR Barnes
1 first rounder
Could be the best deal they're going to get for Durant if they blow it up and trade Booker to Houston near the deadline.
^ that is absolutely rediculous. Keldon, Zollins and Barnes aren’t even expiring till this summer or later.
The problem with Cam, IMHO, is that he's going to cost a significant price because he is extremely efficient and has a good contract and is overall SOLID... but you're going to pay that price for a 3rd or 4th option on a contending team. I want us to start cashing in our trade chips, but personally I'd rather overpay for a legit #2 than pay (inflated) market prices for a #3 or #4 based on where we are as a team right now.
If we had that #2 in place already, I'd feel differently... but just my opinion is that we either make a big move for that #2 or just (relatively) small cost moves to shore up the periphery. I think someone like Nesmith or Jonas would be relatively small cost but big impact, and may even allow someone like Devin a better opportunity to prove himself. Right now, like everyone else, they are having to overcome the shortcomings of our roster and its an extra burden.
On Walker, I've been a believer since college. My BB looked like this back then-This is a lot more change than the Spurs FO usually can tolerate, but I really like this. This is the kind of thing I'd try to pull off in 2K, lol.
This would inject a lot of promise and shooting into our wing position, but it does carry a bit of risk. Can Walker maintain his shooting on higher volume? Can these guys increase their REB%? Can we get Obi to play some defense?
It does give us a little bit of logjam at the wings... but maybe Toppin can be rerouted elsewhere for a backup C or with Vassell for Fox
CP3/Tre
Vassell/Castle
Champ/Nesmith
Barnes/Toppin/Walker
Wemby/Collins/Bassey
Tier 1:
1. Victor Wembanyama
Tier 2:
2. Scoot Henderson
Tier 3:
3. Jarace Walker
4. Cam Whitmore
5. Amen Thompson
6. Brandon Miller
7. Ausar Thompson
8. Taylor Hendricks
9. Gradey
Ive always thought he had more upside (and to be fair) and a little more downside than Sochan, but I like gambling on the upside. He's also further away from getting paid.
The question is how seriously can we take this season's stats? I'm not saying he isn't a good player and that he wouldn't be a great fit, it's that he's playing with the ultimate green light on a team noone really cares about.
They don't need to put the effort in to defend him because it's easy enough to beat the Nets without maximum effort.
Here's my post from a couple of days ago:
Cam is obviously a good fit, it's just that the question presents itself if he's worth it and is such a one-dimensional player what we need.
To put things into perspective, Cam's last season before he got the ultimate green light:
13.4/4.3/2.4 on 44/39/79, 27mpg.
Champagnie this season:
12/4.7/1.3 on 43/37/90, 27mpg.
Now obviously Champagnie is the ultimate bargain, but is Cam worth it when we got not that much worse version of Cam at home?
I'm the first one to say that we need another great 3-D wing with size, but the more I think about it, the more I'm certain we need a legit offensive weapon instead of someone one-dimensional.
It all comes down to the point guard situation. If we're getting Fox or someone similar who can score with ease, then Cam is what we need.
But if we go for a steady presence until Castle matures, then I'd rather have a higher level scorer like Markkanen (not specifically him, but you get the point) than Cam.
So? If Phoenix blows it up they won't care, they'll be in the gutter for a few years no matter what and those guys will be tank commanders. Might even be able to rehab Keldon's value with tank touches and move him on later.
Yeah I like Walker in general. My only fear is how effective he can be at using that big frame to be a force on the boards. He's kind of like Toppin in that regard, they look like they should be good rebounders but they don't really deliver in that regard. Walker is only 8.8 reb/100 pos for his career. Toppin is at 9.9 this year. By comparison, Sochan is up to 13.8 this season. Rebounding is already a problem for this team I'm afraid to compound that problem. But... I love your trade idea.
I think there's more holes in Obi's game than Walker's even though he's the better player right now. Walker hasn't really had opportunities behind Pascal and Obi.
With the trade deadline coming up next month, I see 3 players who the spurs should try to possibly trade.
Zollins - His salary makes him a bit difficult to trade because we'll to add some extra assets to get anything of value back if at all.
Bassesy - Unless the spurs want to keep him as just a 3rd string center, we should trade him for someone with a little more potential even if we have to add a second round pick or two. He may be more valuable to other teams than he is to us.
Trey Jones - For 9 million per seasons, teams should expect more from their back up pg. He's not elite at anything so his salary is a bit much for what little he does. Does anyone think he deserves a raise next year ?
The spurs have improved quite a bit from last year, but not because of these guys. If they really want to improve, they need better players than these 3. Throw in Branham and Wesley into that group as well.
Edit: not worth the energy
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