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    only part of this i have a gripe with is the notion that Primo was a high upside player
    I meant that's how he was sold to the fans, not that I actually thought he was going to be that.

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    It's kind of funny, because most people here would have said there was no way this was a .500 team at the beginning of the season.
    Can't just look at the record, things are developing in a different way than expected.

    Most wins are on the back of Wemby's ridiculous carry jobs and MVP level play.
    Spurs have looked horrible ever since his level of play dropped.

    CP3 has been better than expected, but him being the second best player on the team is worrying.

    Champagnie is the only young player other than obviously Wemby who has exceeded expectations.
    Castle is showing a lot of promise, but we expected it. His shot is as bad as advertised, everything else looks solid.

    Devin has been showing signs of life as of late, but is still a big injury concern and every single advanced stat points to him being one of those tank commander, empty stats scorers.
    Keldon is beyond hope, simply has to be traded before the next season starts.
    Tre is a good guy, but not a serious NBA point guard due to his combination of physical disadvantages and lack of range.
    We knew Collins would be horrible, but he's managed to be even worse than that.
    Jeremy had a solid start, but reverted back into last season form and has caught another injury.
    Bassey is a solid third stringer and Barnes is a solid vet.

    TL;DR
    Wemby is exceeding expectations and it would be a huge disservice to him if we don't have a roster capable of aiming for 50 wins next season.
    Issue being that we don't have a single other reliable piece on the roster. And you can't deny it.
    Who except for two veterans and Champagnie (in like 8th man role) would be a consistent contributor for playoff teams?

    Whoever watches other teams on regular basis knows how far behind we are and lack of movement is beyond concerning.
    I fully expect you to go on a rant about us being ungrateful, impatient, spoiled manchildren and how everything is going according to plan, but you simply won't change our opinion on the ongoing catastrophe we call PATFO.

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    tbh i thought wesley was also something of a bright spot (not that he's ready to be a full time rotation player, but that he is showing signs of life and development), but he's basically been banished

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    tbh i thought wesley was also something of a bright spot (not that he's ready to be a full time rotation player, but that he is showing signs of life and development), but he's basically been banished
    Agreed, he's shown signs of improvement, but it's honestly irrelevant in the bigger picture.
    Best case scenario is he becomes a servicable backup and he's got a long way to go.

    We need something serious, as in some of the young guys to show they're capable of being long-term starters, right now we're just grasping for straws.
    It's Devin's 5th year, he got paid, I expect him to score 30 here and there considering all the scrubs that have been dropping ridiculous numbers this season.

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    After the next 7 games before the trade deadline, we very well be sitting somewhere between 6 and 10 games under .500

    If that's comes to fruition, I think we should consider trading CP3 and probably Barnes as well. Champ could even be a sneak trade asset for second apron playoff teams needing one more rotation piece. For all the talk of how far ahead of schedule we are... we're only 5 wins ahead of the 6th worst record, something that might be achievable with some strategic tanking.

    I'm as anti-tank as they come... but we're getting very close to that fork in the road.

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    Champ could even be a sneak trade asset
    Just no.
    He's got two more years left on his bargain contract, if we actually trade him Wright is a re .

    We can trade two veterans if they want to compete, but it's kind of pointless from our side.
    We're not getting a FRP for them and we have more than enough seconds.

    Noone is giving us a useful young player in exchange for a 40 year old.

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    Just no.
    He's got two more years left on his bargain contract, if we actually trade him Wright is a re .

    We can trade two veterans if they want to compete, but it's kind of pointless from our side.
    We're not getting a FRP for them and we have more than enough seconds.

    Noone is giving us a useful young player in exchange for a 40 year old.
    I would normally say that SRPs can be useful, even if we have a lot of them, but Brian Wright doesn't know how to use them so its not like it matters.

    I agree on Champ... but I could see teams calling, and you know Brian Wright loves to sell.

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    In defense of Blake, though he still makes dumb mistakes, he also can be part of defensive series involving turnovers where we would go on big runs. Tre Jones is better than him now but if Blake is going to be on the team next year, they need to determine if he is good enough to replace Tre Jones. Especially with Castle and CP3, my thought is yes. Instead, we're getting the worst of both worlds, keeping Blake as a player, but not utilizing this opportunity, at least in my uninformed opinion.

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    Yeah, if we lose these next 7 games before the trade deadline, then I think one of CP3 or Tre should be moved and Blake should get heavy backup PG minutes the rest of the year. Picking up Blake and Bran's options just to sit them on the end of the bench is puzzling

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    Did I click on the wrong thread here? What I’d like is a Kelel Ware type with the ATL pick. Backup center problem solved. Also need a future PG or combo PG/SG to upgrade on Jones and of course in the NBA you always need 6’8” wings that shoot the 3 ball. That’s my Xmas in June scenario at least, draft wise.

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    Jalen Johnson just hurt his shoulder tbh.

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    What a weird team. Owns Boston/Cleveland but just lost to the Raptors at home

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    Lol Hawks.

    L to the Craptors at home.

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    How the did they lose to the tanking Raptors tbh. I’ll take it though.

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    Losing 3 in a row. Take it!

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    We need a Hawks implosion, just imagine Cooper next to Wemby.

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    fck u atl

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    At this point Maluach has to be the Hawks' first, second, and third choice with that Laker's pick right? Capela's too old, Okongwu is decent but too small to be a full time center. Add a 7'2" big shooting 86% at the rim and 77% from the line anchoring a top 5 defense as a as Trae's new roll man and it can potentially do more for them than Lively did for the Mavs both in the short and long term. Daniels/Johnson/Risacher/Maluach is a ton of size around Trae and probably his ideal defensive lineup. Hoping he goes earlier than wherever that pick ends up because of all the mid-lottery guys he seems like a glove-in-hand fit and might seriously further jeopardize our future Hawks picks.

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    this team losing 3 in a row while having 2 wins against Celtics and Cavs each. This is why no one should be trusting these draft picks.

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    At this point Maluach has to be the Hawks' first, second, and third choice with that Laker's pick right? Capela's too old, Okongwu is decent but too small to be a full time center. Add a 7'2" big shooting 86% at the rim and 77% from the line anchoring a top 5 defense as a as Trae's new roll man and it can potentially do more for them than Lively did for the Mavs both in the short and long term. Daniels/Johnson/Risacher/Maluach is a ton of size around Trae and probably his ideal defensive lineup. Hoping he goes earlier than wherever that pick ends up because of all the mid-lottery guys he seems like a glove-in-hand fit and might seriously further jeopardize our future Hawks picks.
    Maluach is lucky that there isn't another lottery grade center at this point. I think he'll go top 10.

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    Need the heat to jump them in the standings.

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    How valuable is the ATL pick with a second JJ shoulder injury? Doubt BKN turn down a potential top 10 pick for Cam J.

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    How valuable is the ATL pick with a second JJ shoulder injury? Doubt BKN turn down a potential top 10 pick for Cam J.
    You dont send top10 pick for Cam Johnson

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    Need the heat to jump them in the standings.
    That and Philly needs to make the play-in. Still think ATL can make it to 7, but then fails to make it to playoffs (which in turn makes their pick a second lotto ticket).

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    You dont send top10 pick for Cam Johnson
    It is not a top 10 pick yet were halfway through the season. Victor would ask for a trade if we don't win 5 straight. Does a top 10 pick matter with no Victor?

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