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    They're clearly so much better without him.
    You realize this is totally irrelevant to the point, don't you?

    It's the same argument that was used to justify Tre's presence in the roster because "look at the stats when Wemby plays with him!!!"

    There are dozens of players that would make this team better

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    Yeah, Sochan is obviously flawed right now but he's a key piece if this team wants to sniff the Playoffs, and he is still young enough to improve in several areas.

    For someone on a rookie contract, he's a huge value.
    Of course he's a key piece of this roster, that's the whole point and issue. He shouldn't with a proper FO.

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    You realize this is totally irrelevant to the point, don't you?

    It's the same argument that was used to justify Tre's presence in the roster because "look at the stats when Wemby plays with him!!!"

    There are dozens of players that would make this team better
    Yeah I hope he gets hurt soon because they just look like trash with him back in the lineup.

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    Sochan coming off the bench as the backup center should be here to stay untill the end of the season, imho.

    Obviously you would still be giving him his PF minutes alongside Vic, but I like the rotation Mitch used today.

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    He doesn't look that bad as the backup at C. Probably because the Pacers have no good big off the bench though.

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    Sochan coming off the bench as the backup center should be here to stay untill the end of the season, imho.

    Obviously you would still be giving him his PF minutes alongside Vic, but I like the rotation Mitch used today.
    It’s basically a stopgap which is better than nothing.

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    Sochan coming off the bench as the backup center should be here to stay untill the end of the season, imho.

    Obviously you would still be giving him his PF minutes alongside Vic, but I like the rotation Mitch used today.
    1st quarter

    CP3, Vassell, Castle, Barnes, Wemby

    6 mins mark: Sochan for Wemby (5 on the court: CP3, Vassell, Castle, Barnes, Sochan)

    7 mins mark: Tre for CP3, Champ for Castle, Keldon for Barnes (Tre, Vassell, Champ, Keldon, Sochan)

    9 mins mark: Wemby for Vassell (Tre, Champ, Keldon, Sochan, Wemby)

    2nd quarter

    4 mins mark: CP3 for Tre, Vassell for Champ, Castle for Keldon, Barnes for Wemby (CP3, Vassell, Castle, Barnes, Sochan)

    8 mins mark: Wemby for Sochan (CP3, Vassell, Castle, Barnes, Wemby)

    About the same pattern in the second half and you have:

    Wemby: 34 mins
    Vassell: 34 mins
    CP3: 30 mins
    Barnes: 30 mins (maybe less depending on matchups and performance)
    Castle: 30 mins (maybe less depending on matchups and performance)
    Sochan: 28 mins (maybe more depending on matchups and performance)
    Champ: 18 mins (maybe more depending on matchups and performance)
    Keldon: 18 mins
    Tre: 18 mins

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    I absolutely loved the rotation today.
    Nice to have a blowout win in such a publicized game.

    Gotta get the Saturday game and we have a chance at getting back on track to finish close to .500 for the season.

    Definitely helps when shots are falling from 3.

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    Sochan 13 and 9 in 17 minutes was real nice. He’s a handful when he’s doing what he does.

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    Sochan can have great chemistry with Wemby. Alley oops back and forth. Also, he's pretty solid at grabbing a board and getting in transition and making a solid pass. We've been missing all that in his absence. I don't know the stats but it feels like Wemby gets more easy looks with Sochan out there.

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    The issue with Sochan is consistency. He has these stretches where he goes for 13 and 9 in 17 minutes. Then you double his minutes and he ends up with 15 and 10. I’m giving him a pass due to the oddball injuries this season. When he’s on he’s a delight to watch with his amazing energy and gritty play. Of course he needs to get better on the 3 ball but his shooting touch is not awful. Like the new hair color and go bleep yourself at ude. He was missed in this recent bad stretch of games. Potential to be the X factor for us.

    Resign him for a KJ type deal and I’d be loving that.

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    Huge credit to Sochan, he'd really improved his rebounding across the board and it's been a huge benefit for the team (we complain about rebounding, but the Spurs are actually 9th in the league).

    Jeremy has increased his OREB% from 6.9 to 10.0 from his rookie season to this season, DREB% from 15.6 to 19.3 and TRB% from 11.0 to 14.7. Kudos.

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    https://www.nba.com/spurs/videos/jer...-paris-1-23-25

    Around 1:30 in the 1st Quarter, Sochan takes and swishes a 3 pointer. I watched it like ten times and still can't make sense of what I saw. You see the weird hitch not with his hands or arms but in how he unnaturally crouches and moves vertically out of the crouch. Yet, the delivery and follow through on his hands and arms...looks good? As for the weird hitch, I'm convinced this is something they have to be working on. Likely Jimmy Barron not inventing this hitch, but, I think, studying his free throw form that works fairly well and trying to borrow aspects of that for his 3 point shots.

    Again, I don't care about the weird hitch, I guess, if it's followed by decent form when the ball leaves his hands and...I think he's doing that in this shot?

    Anyway, the hitch is so distracting it's hard for me to tell what is going on, but I definitely think they are committing to this as his shooting form.

    Curious what others actually think.

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    I don't understand the hate for Sochan (while he's on his 3rd year). You would appreciate his skills if he were playing for another team.

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    Grass is always greener on the other side and the sky is bluer.
    He's 21 getting better, does a lot of that does not show on a scorecard and he's always committed.
    But there is that not much hate this season expect for Karen14.

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    I love what he brings to the team. He’s improved a lot this year

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    I don't understand the hate for Sochan (while he's on his 3rd year). You would appreciate his skills if he were playing for another team.
    Because if you're not an All-Star caliber player on this team, people in here are going to cry about it and think you should be traded for another player they're just going to cry about.

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    Mike Malone had an interesting quote the last time they played the Spurs, in that he thought they were trying to use Wemby similar to how they use Joker on offense. It would make sense that they see Sochan as their Gordon.

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    I'd like to see Wemby more as our Jokic if possible: orchestrating from the top of the key, less logo heat checks, to a degree, or at least use his shooting gravity to open the floor for players like Champ, Castle, and Sochan who are all good cutters.

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    Didn't watched the game today but watched the highlight.

    Wow his chemistry with Wemby is showing sign of brilliance. Last year was really a disaster with fans accusing Sochan is jealous of Wemby and deliberating not passing the ball to him. This year the chemistry is starting to show

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    I'd like to see Wemby more as our Jokic if possible: orchestrating from the top of the key, less logo heat checks, to a degree, or at least use his shooting gravity to open the floor for players like Champ, Castle, and Sochan who are all good cutters.
    They tried that last year it was ass and scrapped it.

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    Grass is always greener on the other side and the sky is bluer.
    He's 21 getting better, does a lot of that does not show on a scorecard and he's always committed.
    But there is that not much hate this season expect for Karen14.
    *except

    And is that your new alt account, scotty?

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    Because if you're not an All-Star caliber player on this team, people in here are going to cry about it and think you should be traded for another player they're just going to cry about.
    No, that's just not true. People on here will do that even if you are an All-Star caliber player - see the hate Tony Parker had on here for more than a decade... Ridiculous hatred is part of what powers this place.

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    Anyone that thinks the Spurs should get rid of Sochan need their heads examined. He's got flaws, but he is a solid NBA player. If he could shoot 36% from 3 point range, and I know that's a big "if", he would be the perfect compliment to Wemby. That's all he lacks. His defense gets better every year and he's unselfish. He's athletic and he plays hard. He's also fun, which is good for chemistry. I get people being hot and cold on Vassell, even though I think he is a good player, but Sochan has really shown it this year when he has not been injured.

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    No, that's just not true. People on here will do that even if you are an All-Star caliber player - see the hate Tony Parker had on here for more than a decade... Ridiculous hatred is part of what powers this place.
    You are right. Even more embarrassing is that he was more than just an all-star, he had a hall of fame career here and people still wanted to trade him every season. The only players not to get that treatment were Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili. And maybe David Robinson. Thank goodness for Sean Elliott that Spurstalk wasn't around for most of his career.

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