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    Devin and, at max, after being pulled, kicking and screaming, 2 picks. It should be Devin and a single mid-to-late first-round pick.


    DeAaron Fox is not some franchise-level player. He's on the level of a Demar.

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    vecenie seems convinced that Fox is a perfect fit with Wemby. however, he raises the same concerns some have brought up here about how his game will age over the course of 5+ years. ultimately says he'd make the move if he were the spurs, no doubt. co-host raises the point of if the spurs wait, who are they waiting for? unless the spurs think they are getting a legit mvp candidate type player such is shai, the gap between fox and another hypothetical player is pretty miniscule



    his idea of the trade:

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    Realistically, the Spurs are gonna cave because they feel pressured to make a move.

    I hope they prove me wrong.

    Anything more than Keldon(and or Devin), Sochan, and FRP is too much.

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    Not sure - would need to see his next two years and how it goes. But his teams are consistently doing better than Fox led teams.
    Memphis does better than the Kings, how surprising. I'm sure if they switched teams, Memphis would still do better than the Kings

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    One thing is for certain...we are all going to spend an inordinate amount of time here constantly refreshing this thread for the next week
    Good to see ST reliving its prime a bit. I figured we had lost those years for good

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    Realistically, the Spurs are gonna cave because they feel pressured to make a move.

    I hope they prove me wrong.

    Anything more than Keldon(and or Devin), Sochan, and FRP is too much.
    I don't think I've ever seen the Spurs make a trade because they give a what the fans think or that they worry about what the local media might say.

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    vecenie seems convinced that Fox is a perfect fit with Wemby. however, he raises the same concerns some have brought up here about how his game will age over the course of 5+ years. ultimately says he'd make the move if he were the spurs, no doubt. co-host raises the point of if the spurs wait, who are they waiting for? unless the spurs think they are getting a legit mvp candidate type player such is shai, the gap between fox and another hypothetical player is pretty miniscule

    his idea of the trade would be Fox to Spurs, Kings get Tre Jones/Wesley/Mamu and 4 first rounders (all the 2025 picks, spurs/hawks/bulls in addition to 2027 hawks pick) with the pistons getting involved for salary purposes (Barnes/Branham), and sending fontecchio to the spurs

    According to @DPG21920 Giannis, Luka, Joker, SGA, Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Scottie Barnes, Ant and many more will soon become available and we can pick who we take

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    I don't think I've ever seen the Spurs make a trade because they give a what the fans think or that they worry about what the local media might say.
    man I was thinking about Wemby. I don't think he's happy losing this much.

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    So many theories......

    If this does come to pass, somebody about 20 pages back mentioned that we could hold Fox out, get him fixed up physically AND tank this season. I don't hate that, but, it seems un-Spursian, though smart. Who knows, maybe we get a great 3&D or tough-nosed front court player in the draft? Stranger things have happened.
    I do think load management would be a welcome idea for Fox as he's really beat up due to overuse. His buckets would come so much easier with Wemby. I love the trade mentioned whereby we trade Tre, Wesley, Mamu, Branham and Barnes and 4 picks. HB has been amazing, but, that's too sweet of a deal to pass up. I'd hope that we keep at least one 1st this draft and push back a couple of years for that other 1st.

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    One thing is for certain...we are all going to spend an inordinate amount of time here constantly refreshing this thread for the next week
    You son of a , yes.

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    man I was thinking about Wemby. I don't think he's happy losing this much.
    Then he should fill out a bit and develop a post-game, if we are honest.

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    Here are some scenarios that Vecenie threw out in the Athletic today:

    Scenario 1.

    Spurs Get: Fox, Simone Fontecchio
    Spurs Send: Tre, Blake, Mamu, Barnes, Bran, SA25, ATL25, CHI25, ATL27, SA25 SRP

    Kings Get: Tre, Blake, Mamu, SA25, ATL25, CHI25, ATL27
    Kings Send: Fox

    Pistons Get: Barnes, Bran, SA25 SRP
    Pistons Send: Simone Fontecchio

    Scenario 2

    Spurs get: Fox, Davion Mitc
    Spurs sends: Barnes, Branham, Tre, Blake, CHI25, AT25, SA25, SAC31 Swap, MIN28 SPR, NOP28 SRP

    MIA gets: Bruce Brown, Demar, CHI25
    MIA sends: Jimmy Butler

    TOR gets: Barnes, Bran, MIN28 SRP, NOP28 SRP
    TOR sends: Bruce Brown, Davion Mitc

    SAC gets: Jimmy, Tre, Blake, ATL25, SAS25, SAC31 swap torn up
    SAC sends: Fox

    Love Sam but I hate both of these. If this is the cost, I'm saying no and telling SAC to call us back when they're ready to get serious.
    a little too pick heavy if you ask me. I definitely want to keep the 25 ATL pick since JJ is out for the season. This shows you one thing though: there's some ability here to get Fox without giving up Vassell, Castle, Sochan and that would be really exciting. Would be a 3-4 team deal, but since the Kings also want Cam Johnson and John Collins, there are plenty of scenarios.

    Btw according to Kings fans, the Kings have 2 GMs. Like a GM and a vice GM, but somehow the vice GM is the real GM and leaks info to the media This sounds crazy, but if you expect some dumb from any FO it's Sacramento.

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    Any way to do this trade without Barnes?

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    Any way to do this trade without Barnes?
    plenty.

    there are many ways to skin this cat... but something has to give.

    people dont want to give up castle/vassell/sochan. people dont want to give up hawks picks. cant have it all.

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    Then he should fill out a bit and develop a post-game, if we are honest.
    Can his body frame even "beef" up? Develop a post game? For ing sakes yes.

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    2. We can just wait until he is a free agent and sign him for free.

    This is certainly subject to debate, but I think the odds are very low that Fox isn't traded somewhere and extended by the start of next season. Yes, his team is saying they'll only extend with San Antonio now, but they are trying to get to their preferred destination. At the end of the day, Fox isn't going to make All NBA this year so a SuperMax is out of the question. But a Max Extension with Bird Raises is 5/296 compared to a FA Max deal of 4/219. I seriously doubt Fox is going to hit free agency and leave $77 million on the table. This summer, if the Spurs don't pull the trigger, he'll become open to the idea of an extension with another team.
    I didn’t know the Bird details here. If this is the case why wouldn’t any semi-compe ive team put their best offer forward for Fox? That’s a lot of money they know Fox most likely wouldn’t turn down. Makes me feel a lot less sure that another team won’t whip their out to trade for him.

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    Bruhs, you're underestimating the BWrong factor here. What semi-successful trade has he ever executed? This is not happening, Fox will never be a Spur

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    Worth mentioning that Kings insider James Ham just mentioned on SAC local radio that Fox has made it clear he would not sign an extension in Houston and doesn't want to go there.


    I doubt HOU would seriously entertain a Fox trade right now anyway but that's one of the only teams who could seriously rival an SAS trade package likely off the board.
    I heard him say “there are strong undercurrents in Sacramento that he wouldn’t extend with Houston.” Whatever that means.

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    vecenie seems convinced that Fox is a perfect fit with Wemby. however, he raises the same concerns some have brought up here about how his game will age over the course of 5+ years. ultimately says he'd make the move if he were the spurs, no doubt. co-host raises the point of if the spurs wait, who are they waiting for? unless the spurs think they are getting a legit mvp candidate type player such is shai, the gap between fox and another hypothetical player is pretty miniscule



    his idea of the trade:

    This seems fair, but Id want top 1 protections on those 2025 picks. That or wait until the summer when the draft order is known.

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    Now you're just being a re .
    Just now? he's one of the lowest IQ poster in here and a gigantic homer to boost.

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    Bruhs, you're underestimating the BWrong factor here. What semi-successful trade has he ever executed? This is not happening, Fox will never be a Spur

    Is this serious? Wright has made a lot of good trades. Dejonte trade, the Thad trade. Poertle trade. I get why y'all don't like his drafting but his trades?

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    This seems fair, but Id want top 1 protections on those 2025 picks. That or wait until the summer when the draft order is known.
    Those picks may lose value after the lottery then the Kings will pull out of any deal.

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    Is this serious? Wright has made a lot of good trades. Dejonte trade, the Thad trade. Poertle trade. I get why y'all don't like his drafting but his trades?
    the premise is that wright has done well at extracting value/picks when breaking down the roster, but has no track record of building up the roster

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    Anybody but Castle and Wemby and I'm good with it tbh.
    i just don't understand how a trade to get fox may make sense without getting rid of castle, like it's complete nonsense

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    Realistically, the Spurs are gonna cave because they feel pressured to make a move.

    I hope they prove me wrong.

    Anything more than Keldon(and or Devin), Sochan, and FRP is too much.
    They should feel pressure to make a move. They have a generational talent who is so good it just flat out demands you start fielding a good team around him sooner rather than later. Time for the front office to stop being the pussies getting ed and to start being the s that do the ing tbh

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