More fuel to the fire
That's some sneaky buddy-buddy right there.Harrison cited his two-decade relationship with Lakers general manager Rob Pelinka, starting when Harrison was a Nike executive and Pelinka was a player agent.
Harrison told The News that he and Pelinka began having “basketball” conversations more than a month ago.
“Then all of a sudden we’re like, ‘Would you ever do this?’
‘Nah, you’re joking, right?’
‘Hmm. Interesting. Maybe I would.’
Added Harrison: “And then it just built over time over the last three weeks.”
Mavericks are owned by people who don't give a about basketball or basketball fans. Someone made financial assurances to them and they propped up the league's premier market because they are stuck using a fifty year old marketing system. Now the Mavs are just like the Cowboys.
Or just supermax him and get the biggest haul ever in NBA history. Either way, there are some BTS going on.
They jus didn't wanna pay him $345mil, now this year makes him ineligible for the supermax
Just throwing some thoughts out there, which are worth what you paid for them: nothing.
- I've been trying to think if this makes it more or less likely Luka hits FA in 2026, and I think the answer is "far less". Luka lost the Supermax, it would be foolish to also lose the Bird raises. I think he signs the shorter-term deal to be a FA in 2028/29 timeframe to be able to get the 10-year vet Supermax.
- Even if the Mavs have info on Luka that makes this make sense, and even if AD goes on an insane tear and leads them to 3 les... this is still a bad trade just because of the potential ROI they passed up right now. Yes, AD is a good player (#11 on Simmons Trave Value Rankings). But Luka was #4 on those same rankings. This would be like if we traded Wemby (#1 on the list) for Paolo (#8 on the list) and only got 1 FRP back. For real... think about that proposal. Wemby for Paolo. How many draft picks would you require ORL to throw in for you to even consider that? That is the the part of this that makes this trade so bad
- I'd assume Luka still has to pass a physical? If the Mavs did this because they wanted to get ahead of some adverse health issue (beyond Luka just being fat, like if he has a chronic calf condition and he'll never be the same and only the Mavs now right now)... it's going to be discovered and the trade will be voided. Likewise, if the Mavs caught Luka with a trunk full of dead hookers and they know about this and didn't disclose it, there would be massive repercussions later (the kind that would cost Adelson the entire franchise).
It still doesn't make sense, and you can't dismiss the people who are saying this is fishy.
True. It baffles me that Nico is out there bragging about his great relationship with Pelinka. What fanbase wants a GM who's friends with other GMs and looking out for their interests as much as their own? We want to believe our GM is a cutthroat negotiation mastermind who's getting the upper hand on other GMs.
FIFYHarrison cited his two-decade relationship with Lakers general manager Rob Pelinka, starting when Harrison was a Nike executive and Pelinka was a player agent.
Harrison told The News that he and Pelinka began having “basketball” conversations more than a month ago.
“Then all of a sudden we’re like, ‘Would you ever a donkey?’
‘Nah, you’re joking, right?’
‘Hmm. Interesting. Maybe I would.’
Added Harrison: “And then it just built over time over the last three weeks.”
It's a shame. If the Mavs had decided to blow it all up SAS would probably have been at the front of the line. Instead they deluded themselves into thinking they can still compete and took the 'win-now' offer SAS obviously can't make.
Not dissimilar to PATFO deluding themselves into thinking they could carry on as normal and all was well with DDR/LMA after Kawhi skipped town.
On paper an AD/Kyrie-led team looks somewhat compe ive but you can't underestimate the psychological damage a move like this can cause a franchise. Players and coaches blindsided. Fanbase in anarchy. These type of trades loom over franchises for years.
Mavs fans will be baying for blood at the first sign of trouble be it a losing streak or if AD starts missing games again.
It's over for them basically. Nico Harrison is basically the Colangelos at the end of that one 76ers Game of Zones episode.
I believe there was a graphic out there that said whenever the Lakers are good, those are the same years the NBA makes the most money.
I'm mostly interested in how this move impacts other GM's around the league.
1) Will this make draft picks more valuable?
2) Will other GM's see value in trading max players for other max players to avoid super max extensions?
3) will other teams be more likely to enter trades this week while all the focus is on this deal?
4) We all know Sac only really cares about selling tickets. They'd move Fox for a bag of peanuts if they thought they could still sell tickets. Are they more likely to move him now under the cover this trade provides?
So he's been the Mavs GM since 2021 and was hired by Mark Cuban? I would've assumed this was a Lakers' inside job, but he's been in charge for quite a while.
The Dallas Mavericks signed General Manager Nico Harrison to a multi-year contract extension, the team announced Tuesday. The announcement comes days before the Mavericks make their third-ever appearance in the NBA Finals.
"I am incredibly grateful to Patrick [Dumont] and the entire Dumont and Adelson family for their continued trust and confidence and to Mark [Cuban] for his willingness to hire an unconventional candidate," Harrison said. "Patrick and his family have accepted me as their own from day one and I am honored to work alongside them, as well as Jason Kidd, as we continue to build a winning culture in Dallas."
Harrison was named general manager of the Mavericks on June 28, 2021, following 19 years at Nike, most recently holding the le of vice president of North American sports marketing. Before that, he played professional basketball in Europe for over six years.
During his time with the Mavericks, the team signed Luka Doncic to a $215 million contract extension. Over the past year, the team drafted Dereck Lively II and traded for Daniel Gafford and P.J. Washington Jr. – all of whom have been key contributors to the Mavs' run to the NBA Finals.
Brutal
It’s super ing weird. I’m not one to think there’s collusion, but this is so ing weird that it’s making we question things. Just utterly bizarre.
Scott, with all due respect, I have to disagree very strongly with one of these points. Maybe the size of my trunk is smaller than what is optimal for a dead hooker, but, I've never been able to fit more than one in my trunk. It is so hard to get the positioning right and they are very bersome. Who among us hasn't had one dead hooker in the trunk at some point? Hardly a reason to trade a player.
Bend over. I'll show you something that smells wrong
Watch Ainge inexplicably gift them Walker Kessler for a SRP now cause it, why not?
It is also difficult to position them correctly unless they have pointy elbows. And who wants a hooker with pointy elbows
It's just nuts that they did this mid season too. They could have still made the finals with the team they had. If they wanted to trade Luka anyway why not wait til the offseason when you know who has the #1 pick? Just makes no sense to trade a superstar for a lesser player as a win now move. Unless Lukas career is about to take a Kawhi trajectory injury wise and no one knows it yet besides the Mavericks FO, I can't wrap my head around it
I think one big learning lesson here is that picks are not the only currency by which you can hang your hat on if you want to go big game hunting. Nico called the Lakers specifically (and one other mystery team) because they had another player who fit what they are trying to do right now. Spurs fans are rightfully miffed that we didn't have a chance to make a "better offer" - but the fact is there is no better offer we could have made in Nico's eyes, short of Wemby (which wasn't happening).
Likewise, in the Fox discussions, there is a sentiment that we don't have the right players to offer back, we only have picks, and that should not be something that is just dismissed. It's a real issue.
If we want to go big game hunting, our assets limit our range of possibilities to guys on teams that value picks. Not every team does.
In that respect, while I don't regret not having Dillingham, he might have been more useful in trying to get a player like Fox than just yet another draft pick. Likewise, having Fox might be more helpful than just having picks for acquiring the next star.
I think we've overvalued our war chest. Picks are valuable, but they aren't the only currency and some teams don't take American Express (which are picks in this case).
I also think that is important to remember in the context of teams like OKC and HOU. They have picks AND useful players to offer. That means they can top us in most deals if they want.
Let's get Fox done.
Clint Capela to the Lakers rumors are picking up steam. Would suck for the lakers to get more help. Would help our ATL Pick a bit. But if we're trading it for Fox regardless then it really doesn't matter I guess.
yeah short term iit’s a more balanced team tbh
long term though
It’s the Lakers, Ainge ain’t gifting them anything them, but he’ll find away to fleece them
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The Mavs FO is a team of Lakers assets, a covert operation is the only explanation
If this is real, this is awesome haha
Interesting scenario since you mentioned the number 1 pick. Do you think that some teams would give up the number 1 pick if they were offered Luka for it?
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