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    Quick thing to mention for those suggesting Castle and Sochan starting together. Their on/off numbers when playing together is historically bad and should only be done for tanking purposes. The offense completely falls apart. Fox and Castle on the floor at the same time doesn't sound ideal at this point in Castle's development, but it has to happen for data/decision making heading into next season.

    Hopefully Wright can secure a legit backup big by the deadline. So glad Collins is off the payroll, though.

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    Btw best scorers coming off screens in the NBA:

    #1 CP3
    #2 Wemby
    #6 Fox

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    Btw best scorers coming off screens in the NBA:

    #1 CP3
    #2 Wemby
    #6 Fox
    How does one apply for the moving screen exception the Warriors have enjoyed during Curry era?

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    Btw best scorers coming off screens in the NBA:

    #1 CP3
    #2 Wemby
    #6 Fox
    too bad most of the roster is garbage at setting them

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    I thought this guy was French?
    He is, but he played in Spain so can speak Spanish, and was probably talking to the Hispanic community in SA
    Last edited by Rocalcio; 02-03-2025 at 01:12 PM.

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    Castle won’t fit with a fast point guard who draws a lot of gravity?

    Huh? 😂
    yup.. castle is a ball dominant player at this stage. he can't defend sgs either, so... why try

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    so... the bulls gave up their best scorer/player in exchange for zollins/tre/huerter. clearly they're going into full tank mode.

    which begs the question of why the pick mattered so much to them. by trading away levine... they were committing to getting themselves a top 10 pick this year. they're expected to move vucevic too. they're probably going to be awful next year as well, so they were already planning to get a top 8 pick next year as well. so maybe, maybe they are on the upswing and want to win some games in the 26/27 season, such that the pick would have conveyed. they got at BEST, a #9 overall pick in 2027 out of this. really seems like any other pick would have been more valuable than getting their own back

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    so... the bulls gave up their best scorer/player in exchange for zollins/tre/huerter. clearly they're going into full tank mode.

    which begs the question of why the pick mattered so much to them. by trading away levine... they were committing to getting themselves a top 10 pick this year. they're expected to move vucevic too. they're probably going to be awful next year as well, so they were already planning to get a top 8 pick next year as well. so maybe, maybe they are on the upswing and want to win some games in the 26/27 season, such that the pick would have conveyed. they got at BEST, a #9 overall pick in 2027 out of this. really seems like any other pick would have been more valuable than getting their own back
    Market for Lavine must've been that bad tbh.

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    Market for Lavine must've been that bad tbh.
    For sure. Speculation from last year/offseason suggested that the Bulls may have to burn a pick to get rid of Lavine. Him having a good year gave them perfect opportunity to hit that "ejecto-seato cuz" button and turn a clean page to full on tank mode

    Iirc, their '25 pick would've rolled over to a top 8 protected pick next year. And there may have been another roll over the following year as well. Now they get a clean slate on the tank.

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    so... the bulls gave up their best scorer/player in exchange for zollins/tre/huerter. clearly they're going into full tank mode.

    which begs the question of why the pick mattered so much to them. by trading away levine... they were committing to getting themselves a top 10 pick this year. they're expected to move vucevic too. they're probably going to be awful next year as well, so they were already planning to get a top 8 pick next year as well. so maybe, maybe they are on the upswing and want to win some games in the 26/27 season, such that the pick would have conveyed. they got at BEST, a #9 overall pick in 2027 out of this. really seems like any other pick would have been more valuable than getting their own back
    I think the psychology of that pick still being out there is probably why they pushed to get it back. Now they can move forward without any thoughts towards it and not worry about a couple meaningless wins in March/April screwing them over somehow. Also, Lavine has been awesome this year but that contract is so bad they were willing to take Collins smaller, but still bad contract which says a lot.

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    Id prefer Fox-CP3-Barnes-Vassell-Wemby. Castle subs for CP3, Champ and Sochan for Banes and Vassell

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    Some random thoughts:
    - Bulls getting their picks back is also kinda interesting because it removes for them the incentive to tank to keep their pick. They are weaker with Lavine gone but they won't tank and they might finish with a better record than Hawks.
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    Huh? Seems to be this would be the exact reason to tank more and get higher chances at a top pick. I see them trading Vucevic and probably going full tank

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    What a trade. Basically everybody was wrong about the package, in a good way, because price was so low. Thank you Mavs

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    Market for Lavine must've been that bad tbh.
    Market for his contract more than the player imo.

    He's overpaid but if he was paid $30/y instead of $40M he'd have had a lot more teams after him.

    His shooting % are insane (+50%-+40%-+80%) and SAC might be better with him

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    Whats about another part of deal? Fox out of season and cp3 waved and to kings s5 full time job.

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    I assume Fox won't play against grizz. So first game against the Hawks?

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    Oh and at the collective ST amnesia putting back Sochan in the starting lineups...

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    Huh? Seems to be this would be the exact reason to tank more and get higher chances at a top pick. I see them trading Vucevic and probably going full tank
    Bulls don't tank "culturally"

    It could change but I think that's what Bruno referred to.

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    Oh and at the collective ST amnesia putting back Sochan in the starting lineups...
    You have new rotation now. Can Paul and Fox both start - no. So it depends who starts, who comes from bench. There will be Fox`s lineup, and Sochan is your best pnr player on the roster for that unit.

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    https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1628368/shots-dash

    https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1628368/shooting

    67% at the rim, 60% unassissted.
    49% between 5-14ft, 80% unassissted.

    This is what we need more than 3pt shooting.
    Our 3pt shooting isn't that horrible, I'd say it's average.
    It's just that a lot of attempts are bad because shots are contested.
    Why are they contested? Because noone can collapse the defense and generate wide open looks.
    That changes now.

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    You have new rotation now. Can Paul and Fox both start - no. So it depends who starts, who comes from bench. There will be Fox`s lineup, and Sochan is your best pnr player on the roster for that unit.
    In theory and then the games happen...

    I really hope Spurs are not done, we need a forward that can shoot BADLY and a back-up big man (4 or 5) so we don't have to use Sochan as a center smh

    Right now we're still not good enough to make a PO push, I'd almost give fox time to get his surgery before the end of the season so we tank and get him ready sooner, if we don't make any more moves.

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    https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1628368/shots-dash

    https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1628368/shooting

    67% at the rim, 60% unassissted.
    49% between 5-14ft, 80% unassissted.

    This is what we need more than 3pt shooting.
    Our 3pt shooting isn't that horrible, I'd say it's average.
    It's just that a lot of attempts are bad because shots are contested.
    Why are they contested? Because noone can collapse the defense and generate wide open looks.
    That changes now.
    Facts. I appreciate you changing your avatar. @CorrectCrusader should be next

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    https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1628368/shots-dash

    https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1628368/shooting

    67% at the rim, 60% unassissted.
    49% between 5-14ft, 80% unassissted.

    This is what we need more than 3pt shooting.
    Our 3pt shooting isn't that horrible, I'd say it's average.
    It's just that a lot of attempts are bad because shots are contested.
    Why are they contested? Because noone can collapse the defense and generate wide open looks.
    That changes now.

    Almost 20 attempts per game is huge, let's see with less volume and better shot selection...

    The most important effect will not be his efficiency but his ability to break defenses and attack the rim. We're so bad at it rn... His job will be so much easier than in SAC thx to the attention Wemby takes from defenses.

    I can't wait .

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